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Yes DK, the concept of 'Theory of Climate Change' is totally lost on this and many other conservatives. An when they spread crap like this, all they are doing is helping Democrats win public office across the nation. Doesn't take much convincing towards the moderates that they are more likely to get stuff accomplished by siding with Democrats then then Republican/Tea Party when showing material like Phydeaux.....
Bullshit, conservatives don't deny the climate is changing, we just deny the bullshit progressive claim that man is the cause of the change. You progressives have put junk science up on a pedestal, and refuse to see the truth that the climate is going to change, always has, and always will. It's the nature of the universe.
1 ) A very good sum of conservatives do not even know WHAT the Theory of Climate Change even tries to explain. The remainder are broken into a few sub groups: A ) Those that keep believing the conservative misinformation machine that the scientists have not gone beyond this phase. B ) The scientists are still debating the causes of Climate Change. And C ) Those that know how its taking place and are still LYING about its effects even though the evidence is solid and well verified.
See we don't even need to discuss it further. You have no room for the 4th category.
D). People that have reviewed the evidence, and have a solid basis in science and have an understanding *that exceeds yours*.
But you can't consider it because it disagrees with your political view point.
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2 ) The Theory of Climate Change is not as you put it 'junk science'. Unless your going to them call 'biology', 'chemistry', and 'physics' all junk sciences. Since a theory is one of the most important concepts in science. Something doesn't become a theory because its a guess at things. Unfortunately there exists to many conservatives with absolutely no foundation to understand any of the sciences. In effect, they handle science at a 6th grade level when most scientists are speaking at the Ph.D. levels.
Most of the 'hard' sciences have a fairly well respected adherence to the scientific method. Postulate a theory. Test it. Evaluate, rinse, repeat.
Name another case where the curve fit between actual theoretical (computer climate models) and actual (temperature data) is so divergent and yet is found to conclusively support the evidence. The president of the National Academy of Physics said it is an absolute travesty. You know.. a real scientist.
Record levels of Anartic ice.
Stable polar bear temperatures.
17 years of flat temperatures.
Better fit of data due to solar ionizing radiation.
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3 ) When one sits down with a good understanding of science and then walks through a long process of understanding the evidence supporting the theory, it does become apparent there is something to all the observations. The problem scientists have is trying to dumb down the information without losing the core concepts that help define the circumstances. One such individual that is highly respected in the sciences is Bill Nye. Unfortunately, some people need things dumbed down several times and STILL have no clue what is being explained to them. The guy does explain things on a level that those in middle school (grades 6-8) can understand, yet pile loads of adults who are conservative just have no ability to the basics of science.
But you seem to think you know better than all the scientists on the planet, subrob. Perhaps you can give us the full explanation of nature of the universe (you know, the stuff we don't currently know). I require it to be in a good scientific journal format. An if its ground breaking stuff, I'll give it to some actual physicist that I know. Who knows you could be next year's Nobel Prize winner!
An award which means so much when a man that has done nothing has won it. Think the Nobel peace committee were expecting assassinations by drone?
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Man can neither accelerate nor decelerate the changing climate, and the only people who say otherwise are making money hand over fist convincing progressives that man is the cause of all climate changes.
So I suppose a nuclear winter can ONLY come about by nature means, right? The amount of 'stupid' in this line of yours would explain to ANYONE with a basic understanding of science how little you understand the concepts found in the Theory of Climate Change. There exists a fair amount of evidence out there.
However you have taken things as some sort of 'Political Test of Wills' pushing the material outside of science into the political arena. In this arena you can so what ever the hell you want, including total lies. Unfortunately, anyone that has spent time in both STILL know how full of shit you really are. In other words, you lack any level including 'remote levels' of credibility on this topic.
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