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RE: Michigan 'Rape Insurance' Bill Passes Into Law - 12/18/2013 7:28:18 AM   
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Ah, they work HIPAA insurance law?

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RE: Michigan 'Rape Insurance' Bill Passes Into Law - 12/18/2013 8:18:43 AM   
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Yeah, no.  The insurance company is not gonna trust sanford health hospital to submit their bill reviewed by their billing department only to pay without question, the insurance company is capitalistic in nature just like the hospital and know you are out to fuck them.  they will perform their own audit and determination.


Yeah, I have co-insurance, and they always submit the bill to my insurance if it's anything more than a consult and send me a bill later, because they just don't know how much is 30% of my insurance's adjusted price for an x-ray or blood test. Which makes every doctor's visit an exciting adventure in not knowing how much I'm going to be paying in medical bills.

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RE: Michigan 'Rape Insurance' Bill Passes Into Law - 12/18/2013 9:30:32 AM   
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Ah, they work HIPAA insurance law?


Yes, HIPAA is part of it. Along with regulations from CMS and other government agencies.

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RE: Michigan 'Rape Insurance' Bill Passes Into Law - 12/18/2013 10:10:50 AM   
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http://aspe.hhs.gov/admnsimp/final/pvcguide1.htm

there is the quick overview, all sorts of people have access to everything about your health information, cuz they are in the business, and the rules are pretty much who they cannot give it to or how it is limited distribution, not what ..........

http://patientprivacyrights.org/consumers/basic-health-privacy-faqs/#InsurerEmployer

And there it is.


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RE: Michigan 'Rape Insurance' Bill Passes Into Law - 12/18/2013 9:11:06 PM   
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http://aspe.hhs.gov/admnsimp/final/pvcguide1.htm

there is the quick overview, all sorts of people have access to everything about your health information, cuz they are in the business, and the rules are pretty much who they cannot give it to or how it is limited distribution, not what ..........

http://patientprivacyrights.org/consumers/basic-health-privacy-faqs/#InsurerEmployer

And there it is.


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There is nothing in either link that says a medical record can be released without the patients signed consent.


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RE: Michigan 'Rape Insurance' Bill Passes Into Law - 12/18/2013 10:47:27 PM   
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There is nothing in either link that says a medical record can be released without the patients signed consent.


Ah, that's the issue there, I think. One of the standard forms every doctor's office gives you is the one where you give them permission to release your medical information to the insurer for billing purposes.

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RE: Michigan 'Rape Insurance' Bill Passes Into Law - 12/19/2013 8:07:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

http://aspe.hhs.gov/admnsimp/final/pvcguide1.htm

there is the quick overview, all sorts of people have access to everything about your health information, cuz they are in the business, and the rules are pretty much who they cannot give it to or how it is limited distribution, not what ..........

http://patientprivacyrights.org/consumers/basic-health-privacy-faqs/#InsurerEmployer

And there it is.


Send the teachers back to school to be taught.


There is nothing in either link that says a medical record can be released without the patients signed consent.



Yes, I see that this way, and I apologize, there is a problem with the way that second link works:

Goto
http://patientprivacyrights.org/consumers/basic-health-privacy-faqs/

It only appears to work correctly under chrome.  It is for shit in IE.

take the third link down.

Basic Health Privacy FAQ’s


What information can be found in my health record?
Who has access to my health records?
“Can my personal health information be used and disclosed without any notice to me or without my informed consent at the time of treatment?”
Can my insurer or employer get my medical records without my permission?
What is a “self-insured employer”?
I thought I signed a Privacy Notice at my doctor’s office giving consent to use my information. What’s in that Privacy Notice?
What is a “Covered Entity”?
Can I prevent my doctor from reporting a certain procedure to my insurance company?
Are my prescriptions private?
Q: What information can be found in my health record?
A: A health record is created any time you see a health professional such as a doctor, nurse, dentist, chiropractor, or psychiatrist. You could find the following in your health record:

Your medical history and your family’s medical history
Labs and x-rays
Medications prescribed
Alcohol use and sexual activity
Details about your lifestyle (smoking, exercise, recreational drug use, high-risk sports, stress levels)
Doctor/nurse notes
Results of operations and proceduresGenetic testing
Research participation
Any Information you provide on applications for disability, life or accidental insurance with private insurers or government programs
Driver’s License
Social Security Number
Financial information such as credit cards and payment info
Q. Who has access to my health records?
A. Many more people than you would ever want, including people outside the health care industry.

Insurance companies
Government agencies especially if you receive Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP, SSI, Workers Comp or any local, state or federal assistance
Employers
Banks, Financial Institutions
Researchers
If you are involved in a court case, your health records can be subpoenaed and available to the public
Marketers
Drug companies
Data miners
Transcribers in and outside the U.S.
Many health websites collect information about you
Q: Can my personal health information be used and disclosed without any notice to me or without my informed consent at the time of treatment?
A: Yes.
The Amended HIPAA Privacy Rule states only that you must receive a Privacy Notice telling you how your personal health information will be used and disclosed. Section 164.520(c) (2) (i) (A).
Privacy Notices are often mistaken for consent forms, but they are simply notices telling you what will happen to your medical records.
Example: information about a depressed person’s attempted suicide and hospitalization can be used and disclosed without any notice to him/her without his/her consent and even if he/she objects.
Q: Can my insurer or employer get my health records without my permission?
A: Yes.
The Amended HIPAA Privacy Rule gives health plans and self-insured employers broad authority (“regulatory permission”) to get information without consent that is far more extensive than is needed for billing or any other reason related to a specific individual’s health care. Other uses for which health plans and employers are authorized to obtain use and disclose an individual’s health information without consent include:

Due diligence in connection with the sale or transfer of assets;
Certain types of marketing;
Business planning and development;
Business management and general administrative activities; and
Underwriting, premium rating and other activities relating to the creation, renewal or replacement of a contract of health insurance. Section 164.501
Example: A depressed person’s health plan or employer would have regulatory permission from the federal government to obtain the information about his/her attempted suicide and hospitalization without his/her knowledge or consent if the information was needed for any of the above business purposes, as well as for treatment or payment.
Even more disturbing, the Amended Rule would authorize the individual’s health plan or employer to use and disclose that information even if the suicide attempt and hospitalization occurred before the Amended Privacy Rule went into effect on April 14, 2003.



Thats part of what it says, and hey, I really know what I am talking about here, I programmed for compliance at UHC. It dont work  under IE, havent tried the other browsers, but that is from chrome.  

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RE: Michigan 'Rape Insurance' Bill Passes Into Law - 12/19/2013 10:33:59 AM   
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Thanks for posting http://patientprivacyrights.org/consumers/basic-health-privacy-faqs/ , Ron

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Certain types of marketing;


I was wondering why I got a mailer about a medical condition suspiciously shortly after I sought treatment for it. (This was when I was with BCBS, not the VA.)

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RE: Michigan 'Rape Insurance' Bill Passes Into Law - 12/19/2013 12:52:57 PM   
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Brokers Trade on Sensitive Medical Data with Little Oversight, Senate Says

Marketers maintain databases that purport to track and sell the names of people who have diabetes, depression, and osteoporosis, as well as how often women visit a gynecologist, according to a Senate report published Wednesday.

The companies are part of a multibillion-dollar industry of “data brokers” that lives largely under the radar, the report says. The report by the Senate Commerce Committee says individuals don’t have a right to know what types of data the companies collect, how people are placed in categories, or who buys the information.

The report came in advance of a committee hearing on industry practices Wednesday afternoon.

The report doesn’t contain any new evidence of wrongdoing by the industry, but it underscores the tremendous increase in the sale and availability of consumer information in the digital age. An industry which began in the 1970s collecting data from public records to help marketers send direct mail has become an engine of a global $120 billion digital-advertising industry, helping marketers deliver increasingly targeted ads across the web and on mobile phones.

“Millions of consumers are now using computers, smart phones, and tablets to make purchases, plan trips, and research personal financial and health questions, among other activities,” the report says. “These digitally recorded decisions provide insights into the consumer’s habits, preferences, and financial and health status.”

The industry, which includes “hundreds of companies,” according to the Senate report, operates with little regulation, transparency, or oversight. A recent study by the Government Accountability Office found that under federal law consumers don’t have a right to know what information data brokers have compiled about them for marketing purposes – or even if a data broker holds such information.

According to the report, various data brokers collect information about people’s incomes, their home loans and pets, and then assign them to groups like “rural and barely making it” and “ethnic city strugglers.”

At the hearing, Pam Dixon, executive director of the World Privacy Forum, said at least one data broker sells lists of rape victims and victims of domestic violence.

Several brokers also track sensitive medical information, the committee found. It said Epsilon maintains one or more databases of people who allegedly have medical conditions including anxiety, depression, diabetes, high blood pressure, insomnia, and osteoporosis.

Epsilon spokeswoman Diane Bruno said the health information is self-reported by consumers who fill out surveys an Epsilon opinion-research website. She said Epsilon had provided “binders of information” to the committee, but added, “We also have to protect our business, and cannot release proprietary competitive information, or information that we’re prohibited from releasing based on contractual agreements with our clients.”

Another large broker, EquifaxEFX -0.20%, maintains a database that includes women’s visits to gynecologists in the past 12 months, the committee report said. Equifax did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The committee said it had trouble getting information from three large data brokers: AcxiomACXM -1.22%, Experian, and Epsilon. Much of the information the companies store about consumers is wrong, according to reporting by the Wall Street Journal.

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RE: Michigan 'Rape Insurance' Bill Passes Into Law - 12/19/2013 1:09:37 PM   
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But that cant possibly be true, that bomb throwing liberal socialist fucking rag the wall street journal is laughable.

Every nutsacker alive will tell you that private industry is efficient, less costly than government and part of the 'invisible hand' of altruism and beneficence towards our citizenry.

What the fuck?  Next you gonna be quoting that commie mag The National Review.

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RE: Michigan 'Rape Insurance' Bill Passes Into Law - 12/19/2013 1:29:39 PM   
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Beams, you know me:)
We just had an announcement that the post service is cutting home delivery raising stamp prices by 33% approx, and laying off workers.
A private company could do it and only their customers will complain, and they do their own thing to please shareholders.
With a crown corporation they are going to have to listen.
The unions are pissed(so are the customers)
And customers are more than pissed.
So far in a few days the petition has gone viral, and just from today, the petition has gone from 19,000 to 27,000. which may not sound enormuos, but I do see some ....action taken. YAY
Part of the crown corp reasoning behind the getting rid of mail delivery in urban places was it would give people the incentive to excercise especially the elderly....I look out my window and the snow is six inches on the ground, slippery as hell, and 38 degrees.
and will be much the same if not worse until late march.
dreamers I tell ya

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