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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer - why would disciplining him do anything? Or ever in his life have done anything? I mean, do you honestly believe that if a kid were to be thwacked more frequently, say, that would somehow halt the developing of the kind of murderous hatred in a kid that is required to undertake a mass-shooting spree? How would that work, exactly? What are the psychological mechanisms you envisage being involved? There is so much more to it than a wack on the noggin or a good thrashing though there are times when a kid really needs that sort of thing. I worked with kids through out the 80's and 90's and there are way too many parents with young school age kids (4 and up) who are out of control to some degree or another and/or have a total lack of respect. There is shit I've seen kids do or say and get away with that would have got most of us in some kind of dutch or double dutch back in the day when I was that age. I believe that some kids, not all, need a good paddling now and then. For the ones who do need it you're not doing them any favors if you don't. There are so many other reasons too many kids are fucked up in the head, lack of discipline is only a small part of it. There are too many broken families, too many single parents, and too many households where both parents work full time. These situations leave kids without the parents around to get much of an idea what really goes on when they're not home or what kind of problems they might have. Kids need the attention of their parents especially/usually when they're old enough to be home alone without a baby sitter. Then there are all the video games, computers, devices and too much shit on TV that can tend to make parenting more impersonal. Add to that those kids who are bullied and you know how that can affect them negatively. Then there all these freakin drugs like Ritalin for the over active types. Many of those types need a parent around to direct their energy into something more productive, not turn them into lethargic couch potatoes. It's not all that simple. Simple minded, one sided child psychology isn't going to work. Parents are going to have to pay attention to their kids more to give them what ever it might be that's best. Good parenting is the answer. I'm not sure how to achieve this nationwide but each kid is different and some needs are very specific. Simple minded gun control won't stop school shootings either. It works fine in the UK and other places. It might work fine down under, time will tell but I'll guarantee it won't go over well in the US.
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