njlauren
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You can't discuss it as science because there is absolutely no proof of a creator involved, no proof that things were designed, simply because it cannot be proven false doesn't mean it is true..whereas evolution has a ton of evidence to back it up, it has gone through the scientific process over 160+ years, and more often than not has been right, whereas every so called 'proof' of creationism has been blown to kingdom come there is absolutely nothing that 'creation science' has put out that stands any kind of test...
On top of which it's not possible to prove creationism wrong- it's not falsifiable. Because goddidit is an answer to absolutely everything. Whereas evolution is falsifable, at least theoretically. If, for example, it was shown that mutations don't exist or aren't passed down through generations, the theory of evolution would necessarily fall.
Which is always the case with scientific theories. They can never be categorically proved, just disproved. Which requires the possibility of doing so.
No, creationism cannot be proven false, you are correct, because it is a philosophical statement/a religious one, that relies on faith, not facts. The only way to prove creationism would be to prove something could not happen any other way, and so far ID has fallen flat on its face with that. Scientific theories can be proved, but it also depends what you mean by proved. Math, for example,can show something is possible or not possible, but that doesn't prove it in fact is, so that is the first level of 'proof'. Then,observations and experiments can prove out a theories predictions, and if they match it becomes a case where more and more the theory is accepted as fact. What you say is true, though, because the devil is in the details, and those often leave unknowns. The beauty of science is it doesn't proclaim universal truth, and is amenable to looking at things in different ways or modifying things, which religion, which proclaims universal truth, absolute truth, and then runs into problems when real life observations show it isn't true...
One of the things about science theories is as time goes on, there are very few revolutions.....Einstein's revolution didn't throw out Newton and Maxwell, it added to it. The Big bang theory did wipe out continuous creation, but for the most part as time goes on theories get modified and added to, as with evolution, but nothing has broken the broad idea of evolution or natural selection via mutation, and all that has been happening is that holes and guesses have been patched over, it has been evolutionary, not revolutionary. If they ever get string theory out of the conjecture phase and show some proof, it would add to Einstein's stuff, not overturn it, and so forth. Religion tends to build itself on old beliefs and may tinker with things here and there, but otherwise stays where it is. Creationism fails as science because as you say, it cannot be tested, its whole 'truth' relies on claiming evolution cannot explain things, which doesn't prove creationism, it simply casts doubt in the mind of the feeble minded. It is kind of sad when supposedly 70% of adults in the US claim not to believe in Evolution, the GOP and the knuckle draggers have done a good job confusing boobus americanus.
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