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RE: Political Wish List for 2014. - 1/1/2014 6:27:20 AM   
DomKen


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The point being I think is that just because nutsackers spend like drunken sailors, doesnt mean they are going to pay for it.



You should be careful there, keep making observations like that and people are going to think you mean liberals when you say nutsackers. We wouldn't want anyone confused.

Funny how the deficit goes up under Republican presidents and down under Democratic ones but some people continue to push the claim that the opposite is true.

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RE: Political Wish List for 2014. - 1/1/2014 6:27:48 AM   
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Steven, and do you want to pay "more" or "less" taxes in 2014?


I've never understood the huge emphasis on how and when we pay our bills, as opposed to the spending that caused the obligation in the first place.


OK, we'll put you down for "more" then.


You've lost me. How does wanting to control spending at the time of spending, as opposed to at the time of paying for what's already been spent, make me an advocate of runaway spending? It sounds like good old common sense to me.


Because politicians always try to deflect from the real problem. They convince the people that the problem is NOT the fact that they overspent by 800 billion dollars. The problem is whether or not they should raise taxes to pay back the money they already spent.

Its actually the most ass-backwards way of thinking I have ever heard of.

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RE: Political Wish List for 2014. - 1/1/2014 6:41:30 AM   
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The point being I think is that just because nutsackers spend like drunken sailors, doesnt mean they are going to pay for it.



You should be careful there, keep making observations like that and people are going to think you mean liberals when you say nutsackers. We wouldn't want anyone confused.

Funny how the deficit goes up under Republican presidents and down under Democratic ones but some people continue to push the claim that the opposite is true.


True...but not funny at all. Source

Amount Each President Added to the Debt per Fiscal Year Since 1960:

President Barack Obama: Added $5.081 trillion, a 44% increase to the $11.657 trillion debt level attributable to Bush's at the end of his last budget, FY 2009.
•FY 2013 - $672 billion.
•FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion.
•FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion.
•FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion.
•FY 2009 - $253 billion. (Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act, which spent $253 billion in FY 2009. This rare occurrence should be added to President Obama's contribution to the debt.)

President George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101% increase to the $5.8 trillion debt level at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.
•FY 2009 - $1.632 trillion. (Bush's deficit without the impact of the Economic Stimulus Act).
•FY 2008 - $1.017 trillion.
•FY 2007 - $501 billion.
•FY 2006 - $574 billion.
•FY 2005 - $554 billion.
•FY 2004 - $596 billion.
•FY 2003 - $555 billion.
•FY 2002 - $421 billion.

President Bill Clinton: Added $1.396 trillion, a 32% increase to the $4.4 trillion debt level at the end of Bush's last budget, FY 1993.
•FY 2001 - $133 billion.
•FY 2000 - $18 billion.
•FY 1999 - $130 billion.
•FY 1998 - $113 billion.
•FY 1997 - $188 billion.
•FY 1996 - $251 billion.
•FY 1995 - $281 billion.
•FY 1994 - $281 billion.

President George H.W. Bush: Added $1.554 trillion, a 54% increase to the $2.8 trillion debt level at the end of Reagan's last budget, FY 1989.
•FY 1993 - $347 billion.
•FY 1992 - $399 billion.
•FY 1991 - $432 billion.
•FY 1990 - $376 billion.

President Ronald Reagan: Added $1.86 trillion, 186% increase to the $998 billion debt level at the end of Carter's last budget, FY 1981.
•FY 1989 - $255 billion.
•FY 1988 - $252 billion.
•FY 1987 - $225 billion.
•FY 1986 - $297 billion.
•FY 1985 - $256 billion.
•FY 1984 - $195 billion.
•FY 1983 - $235 billion.
•FY 1982 - $144 billion.

President Jimmy Carter: Added $299 billion, a 43% increase to the $699 billion debt level at the end of Ford's last budget, FY 1977.
•FY 1981 - $90 billion.
•FY 1980 - $81 billion.
•FY 1979 - $55 billion.
•FY 1978 - $73 billion.

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RE: Political Wish List for 2014. - 1/1/2014 7:02:59 AM   
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The point being I think is that just because nutsackers spend like drunken sailors, doesnt mean they are going to pay for it.



You should be careful there, keep making observations like that and people are going to think you mean liberals when you say nutsackers. We wouldn't want anyone confused.



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RE: Political Wish List for 2014. - 1/1/2014 3:30:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		MsMJAY, that tells me that we need to get rid of Republicans and Democrats.
Their ways obviously don't work.

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RE: Political Wish List for 2014. - 1/2/2014 6:09:30 AM   
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The point being I think is that just because nutsackers spend like drunken sailors, doesnt mean they are going to pay for it.



Only nutsackers are pretending to be confused, the house has been nutsacker for some years now, and more and more spending and debt, so.......

You should be careful there, keep making observations like that and people are going to think you mean liberals when you say nutsackers. We wouldn't want anyone confused.


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