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ORIGINAL: Toysinbabeland



Children must be taught to hate.
This is a means to that end.

Imho, I believe that children should not be tortured.
They can be detained, jailed etc. for violence committed, but not tortured.
I do believe in recidivism, but I still think that people should be humane where children are concerned.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: Toysinbabeland



Children must be taught to hate.
This is a means to that end.

Imho, I believe that children should not be tortured.
They can be detained, jailed etc. for violence committed, but not tortured.
I do believe in recidivism, but I still think that people should be humane where children are concerned.

Throwing rocks at intruding men carrying guns in your village mandates jail? [8|]

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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

Why are the kids in jail in the first place? Did mommy and daddy philistine taught them throwing rocks is good?
Bad parents who let the kids do the dirty work.
Maybe the cold will teach little kids throwing rocks is not healthy.

If not criminal certainly a pathetic denigration of the history and current plight of the Palestinians. And once again a sad demonstration of how the Western colonialist mind has historically pissed on the humanity of people of color.

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminGamma
Please refrain from using ethnic slurs, whether they are intend to be derogatory or not, they are not allowed. Changing how a word is spelled or using special characters to get around the filter is also a violation of community guidelines.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Do you have any idea how hard you have to strain to make shoe horn your ideology into this shoebox?
I mean really - do you really think there is much color difference between the palestinians and the Israelis?

And do you really think the palestinians fit as people of color?

Hell, for that matter its quite a stretch to call Israel a "western colonizing power" - as its neither western, established a colony, nor really a power.

But hey.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

Why are the kids in jail in the first place? Did mommy and daddy philistine taught them throwing rocks is good?
Bad parents who let the kids do the dirty work.
Maybe the cold will teach little kids throwing rocks is not healthy.

If not criminal certainly a pathetic denigration of the history and current plight of the Palestinians. And once again a sad demonstration of how the Western colonialist mind has historically pissed on the humanity of people of color.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminGamma
Please refrain from using ethnic slurs, whether they are intend to be derogatory or not, they are not allowed. Changing how a word is spelled or using special characters to get around the filter is also a violation of community guidelines.

Oh gawd. Please tell me that turd who was using the 'N' word with ever-so-clever special characters in place of the 'g's wasn't polluting this thread, too.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

So long as the palestinians insist on making israel a muslim state (ie, insisting on a right to return) there will be no treaty.

Your negotiation cannot be: kill yourself.

Because .. no matter how bad the cards - palestinian right of return is telling the israelis to choose their own destruction.

So. The palestinians know that. The israelis know that. We used to know that. The palestinians are not interested in peace - fair or otherwise- they just like drumming up support (and donations).

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Israel has found a new method of torturing Palestinian children it has detained - leaving them outside in metal cages during recent severe winter snow storms 'The Independent' reports:
An Israeli human rights organisation has accused the government of torturing Palestinian children after it emerged some were kept in outdoor cages during winter.
The Public Committee Against Torture in Israel (PCATI) published a report which claimed children suspected of minor crimes were subjected to “public caging”, threats and acts of sexual violence and military trials without representation.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-government-tortures-palestinian-children-by-keeping-them-in-cages-human-rights-group-says-9032826.html

This report is the latest in a long series of reports documenting and condemning Israel for torturing children it has arrested in Occupied Palestine, which include reports from Defence of Childen International, UNICEF, UK lawyers as well as Israeli organisations such as Breaking the Silence Children and Youth Soldiers� Testimonies.

These barbaric practices are part of the Israeli drive to ethnically cleanse Occupied Palestine. Israel is subsidised to the tune of more than $3 billion annually by the US taxpayer. How long will the US taxpayer continue to indirectly subsidise the torture of Palestinian children by Israel?

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

So long as the palestinians insist on making israel a muslim state (ie, insisting on a right to return) there will be no treaty.

Your negotiation cannot be: kill yourself.

Because .. no matter how bad the cards - palestinian right of return is telling the israelis to choose their own destruction.

So. The palestinians know that. The israelis know that. We used to know that. The palestinians are not interested in peace - fair or otherwise- they just like drumming up support (and donations).

Alarmist bullshit[8|]

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminGamma
Please refrain from using ethnic slurs, whether they are intend to be derogatory or not, they are not allowed. Changing how a word is spelled or using special characters to get around the filter is also a violation of community guidelines.

Oh gawd. Please tell me that turd who was using the 'N' word with ever-so-clever special characters in place of the 'g's wasn't polluting this thread, too.

Right. It is a matter of historical record that my parents and grand parents from Italy were greeted with a variety of ethnic slurs, words which I heard as a kid, but now it is politically incorrect to use those words when talking about that history even though I was not using them against anyone. But those are the rules and I will abide by them. MEA CULPA. However, your calling me a turd is also unacceptable to me at least. Ironic that that sort of name calling is allowed, innit it?

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Alarmist bullshit[8|]

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God's sake, Vincent, I wasn't referring to you! I apologise if that's how it came across. There was a person - a newbie - who was doing some of the worst kind of troll posts recently. He seems to have vanished entirely though, now.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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And yet.. no evidence.

Exactly where have the current hamas or palestinian authority said they concede the right to return. Show me and I will say that I am wrong.

You cannot for I am not so you are left with idle words.

Your claim Palestinians returning home will make Israel a Muslim state overlooks the fact Palestinians already live within Israel, so like I said, alarmist bullshit.

If you worry that demographics "might" eventually mean Muslims "might" power........ thats democracy for you. [8|]

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Again, no evidence. And frankly its pure lie.

I don't base my support of Israel on demographic data. I support Israel, pretty much regardless of what they might do.

Israel has made it state policy that they will not negotiate on right of return. They believe it will cause the loss of the jewish state. And there is plenty of demographic data to support that fear.

Since you are an unabashed muslim supporter, and support sharia law in England I understand your condemnation of Israel, pretty much regardless of what they may do.

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Since you are an unabashed muslim supporter, and support sharia law in England

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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And yet.. no evidence.

Exactly where have the current hamas or palestinian authority said they concede the right to return. Show me and I will say that I am wrong.

You cannot for I am not so you are left with idle words.

Your claim Palestinians returning home will make Israel a Muslim state overlooks the fact Palestinians already live within Israel, so like I said, alarmist bullshit.

If you worry that demographics "might" eventually mean Muslims "might" power........ thats democracy for you. [8|]

Again, no evidence. And frankly its pure lie.

I don't base my support of Israel on demographic data. I support Israel, pretty much regardless of what they might do.

Israel has made it state policy that they will not negotiate on right of return. They believe it will cause the loss of the jewish state. And there is plenty of demographic data to support that fear.

Since you are an unabashed muslim supporter, and support sharia law in England I understand your condemnation of Israel, pretty much regardless of what they may do.

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Re the bolded part, you are just making shit up. You wont find any post were I support Sharia Law in England, nor one where I am an unabashed Muslim supporter.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Since you are an unabashed muslim supporter, and support sharia law in England

Seriously, Phydeaux, where on earth did you get that?