Kana
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Let's see-The times is responsible for printing Judith Millers errors on WMD, Jayson Blairs plagiarism, Tawanna Bradley, Selena Roberts despicable attacks and blatant mistruths re the Duke Lacrosse case.
The article re Benghazi also quite inconveniently contradicts their own prior reporting re the assault.
It also contradicts many of the administrations ex post facto (Often long afterwards too) revisions of events.
There's also the minor fact that the Times has admitted having certain biases:
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MARGARET SULLIVAN, PUBLIC EDITOR "THE NEW YORK TIMES": Thanks, Joanne. Great to be here.
LIPMAN: So let's dive right in. The loudest criticism that we often hear about "The New York Times" -- I don't know if it's the most frequent but it's certainly the loudest -- is that it has a liberal bias. Does it?
SULLIVAN: Well, some of my predecessors have taken that head-on. In fact, Daniel Okrent, the first public editor, once wrote a column -- and I think the headline said something like "Is 'The Times' a Liberal Newspaper?"
And his answer in the lead was, of course it is. And he went on from there. And it got quite a bit of response.
I mean that is obviously something people feel about "The Times," and I think maybe the best way to think about it is that "The Times" reflects its readership, its community. It's an urban paper; it's a New York City paper. I mean that's a reasonable criticism, I think.
LIPMAN: So it is a yes?
SULLIVAN: It's a modified yes with a lot of nuance in it.
So yeah, I think people have a right to be skeptical.
Not to mention that the administration has stonewalled on the situation, which never looks good, changed their base story a few times, and,how to put this kindly,proven to be less than credible on certain serious issues in the past.
That's a bad combination and one that's going to lead to uncertainty at best, conspiracy theorizing at worst.
Personally, I don't find the attack itself,or the unprepared state of security to be that surprising. Same with the difficulty with the response. Sad to say,these sorts of things happen in the government. Too many people from too many agencies operating for too many individual agendas, not to mention the communications and logistical difficulties, in this budget slashing day and age where everyone in the govt is expected to do more with less-a tragedy was almost inevitable.
There's also the rather large possibility that Benghazi was a deep sanctioned black ops CIA front/mission and the admin was covering up to prevent disclosing far greater secrets.
So yeah,the successful attack doesn't bother me too much. Regrettably,these things happen.Unfortunately in this instance people died, which sucks.
But I do kinda suspect that the administration,when they found out about it, saw it in terms of politics. As in, OMFG, this is an election year and we could look really bad,this could really hurt us and Romney is sure to use it against us (And ooooh he would have) so they tried to gloss it over and cover it up.
That ridiculous story about the movie is an example. And then a few weeks later they essentially said,"Blame it on a movie.Hah-we never did that. We thought it was a terrorist attack from Day 1."
Huh-cuz there were riots across the Mideast after the admin pointed the movie finger.Innocent people died in them. Others had their property and livelihood ruined. All because the administration proved to be incapable of saying "Fuck,we dropped the ball here."
And I have issues with that. I have moral issues with people dying to cover others asses
In other words, like always, I have way more problems with the coverup than the crime.Hey, people make errors.Nobody is 100%. And in an entity as monolithic and sprawling as the US Govt, they are inevitable.En masse, nonetheless. But the thing to do is admit em and move on,ala Kennnedy and the Bay of Pigs.
Don't lie and coverup though. That's when the shit gets deep and the knives come out
The cover up is what killed LBJ.It buried Nixon. It killed Clinton. It buried Bush.
It's just fucking stupid.
Especially when you have run on a platform of being the most transparent administration in history and changing the way government works. The US populace by and large is very forgiving, both of celebs and politicos (I mean fuck,DC re-elected Barry after he got caught smoking crack on camera and the whole "Bitch set me up" deal),who admit their fuckups.But lie to em and they get all sorts of sanctimonious. Watch the funk out then cuz blood will just make the wolves thirstier. That's whats happening here
Kinda reminds of that movie about Enron,"The Smartest Guys in the Room."
Too smart for their own damn good is what the real deal is
< Message edited by Kana -- 1/4/2014 10:50:05 PM >
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