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sheisreeds -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 8:36:33 AM)

HMMMMMMM goes to Africa with no cell service for 3 weeks, just got back.

Sounds like a smoke screen for it's the holidays and I need to spend time with my wife, children, and in laws.




windchymes -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 8:48:16 AM)

Sorry OP, but your story reeks of being jerked around by yet another online player who is married and making up stories to buy himself time until the next jolly-time with you comes along. Or a scammer from Africa. Or a married African scammer, lol.

Meeting someone you're crazy about and seem to be compatible with and who lives only 20 minutes away is like hitting the holy grail online. Anyone who was serious about developing a serious relationship with someone would NOT be playing a bunch of "I think I'll ignore her to see how obedient she really is" kinds of games. Even if he was, how many times are you willing to be drug around the floor like a rug just so you can be the devoted slave of someone......who will treat you like that?

If they're employed and and have a home to take care of, they don't have time to think up "tests". They want to get down to business. And how many people in your real life go on 3-week safaris to South Africa or Tanzania (which are nowhere near each other, btw.)? Next thing he'll be mountain climbing in the Himalayas or driving race cars in Monaco.

Those excuses for not meeting that he's handing you are nothing but smoke he's blowing up you know where. And for the record, you really DON'T know FOR SURE anything about anybody until you've met them in real life and been around them, totally immersed in their lives. Just because he gives you "so much of his time" does not mean he is not married. If you really want to play detective, most public libraries have easy access to public court records, it wouldn't be hard to see if there's a marriage license on file for him. And you can follow up by looking for a divorce record if you want to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Has he given you his personal phone number? Can you call him anytime? His address? His employer and the address? Can you ask him direct personal questions and get a straight answer without hesitation or the run-around? If you tell him you want to meet him and name specific dates and times, will he keep making excuses.....or tell you it's "not submissive" for you to ask that? Because that's a load of crap, too.

There was a show on tv not too long ago where they took cameras and busted scammers in Africa, sitting around the internet cafes, doing exactly what I think he's doing to you, which is getting ready to make the big request for money. He'll email you frantically saying he lost his wallet and passport and can't get home and he needs YOU, who he doesn't even know in real life, to send him the money so he can get home. For the love of God, don't do that.

For the record, though....your ID "sweet16" is a little disturbing. You might want to rethink that one. And stop believing everything you read on a computer screen, no matter how sweet the words are.




DesFIP -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 8:59:28 AM)

He's married. He's available after tomorrow because the kids are back in school then.

In future, meet for coffee before submitting.




Kana -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 9:10:44 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tallandsweet16

hello there!

i've recently started a relationship w/ Master. we've been talking for 2 months nearly...met here on CM and we live only 20 minutes from eachother. we have not met in person yet, as he has a process that he follows for all potential slaves...things have been going excellently. he's finishing up a 3 wk stint in south africa and returning home tomorrow. while he has been gone we have had good communication/contact, as much as possible while he has been away and in remote locations and busy with friends, etc. he has provided me with a daily task list, as well, and i've been emailing him my experiences.

on new years day, he emailed me very sweet emails.... i have not heard from him since. i'm very concerned and have never had this experience before...does anyone have experience with 1. a master/dom saying deep/emotional things and then quickly changing their mind, or 2. a master/dom ignoring them not for purposes of punishment (i think he'd tell me if i was being punished) but for purposes of seeing the degree of your submission and obedience even when things are difficult?

please, any advice would be appreciated. it has been a very long 3 days since hearing from him and i'm so upset--when i got his sweet/emotional emails on new years day i was on such a high...now, as you can imagine, i'm in such a low emotionally...part of me is pissy and wants to retaliate by not finishing my daily tasks...but the good girl in me says to push thru and if his feelings ahve changed, he'll tell me directly... maybe this is a test of my obedience!??

thank you. so much.

Sounds as if maybe you've been hornswaggled.
There may or may not be an excuse for the actions, but does it really matter? Isn't it a real bad sign that you have this many red flags waving before you even meet?

Kana's number one rule of the internet-They all, and I mean all, fake until I sit across a table and lay eyeballs on them.
And even then,considering the duplicitous nature of humans, it takes another six months of close observation and getting to know em to be sure

Act accordingly.






sheisreeds -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 9:18:37 AM)

Whatever you do at this point don't meet the guy, and absolutely do not have sex with him, which he will want immediately if he ever shows up in person, and just cut off contact and get out.




OsideGirl -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 9:39:51 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sheisreeds

HMMMMMMM goes to Africa with no cell service for 3 weeks, just got back.

Sounds like a smoke screen for it's the holidays and I need to spend time with my wife, children, and in laws.



Not to mention that November and December are considered the worst months to do a safari in Africa.

quote:

ORIGINAL: sheisreeds

Whatever you do at this point don't meet the guy, and absolutely do not have sex with him, which he will want immediately if he ever shows up in person, and just cut off contact and get out.
This is good advice. All contact.




peppermint -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 10:13:07 AM)

I will give you the same advice I gave you 2 1/2 months ago.

You've been given some good advice. My suggestion would be to wait 6 months before seriously beginning to look for a Dominant. That will give you time to read and learn. By then you won't be so naïve. Also, some Dominants will try to put you into what they call a collar of consideration. This means you are off the market while the Dominant is probably looking around to see if he can find something better. If that collar of consideration makes you feel all fluffy, then accept one. Just realize it's probably not worth much unless you are also putting the Dominant under consideration.

Another thing is that people online will try to get you to do activities, or have chats about subjects you are not comfortable doing with a stranger. If it doesn't feel right, then it isn't. Don't believe anyone who tells you that you are not submissive enough if you will not do those things. Until you actually meet a great Dominant face to face, get to know him, and agree to be his, you are free to do as you please. You do not have to be submissive to or obey every Dom, Dick, or Hairy online.




ResidentSadist -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 10:52:33 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tallandsweet16
ouch. this doesn't look good for me, i see. awful. he has been gone for 3 wks in south africa of the 7 wks we've been chatting. now i feel stupid to have gotten involved emotionally. i hurt.

Being an international traveler myself, I was pretty sure there is cell phone service in Tanzania. So I checked and yes there is, most of the major companies cover it. If not, I am sure anyone that can afford an extended stays in Tanzania can afford "Low-cost Tanzania cell phone service by Range Roamer who provides short-term cell phone service for international travelers."

I am just saying that a man who says he can't talk to you because he is going to Tanzania on safari is pretty far fetched in this modern day. Seriously, I smell bullshit somewhere.

To quote what looks like the real truth here:
quote:

ORIGINAL: petitespot
He's married.

and,
quote:

ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt
I'm afraid you are about to learn a harsh lesson. There is a *reason* we tell new people to meet within a week or two, to take the relationship end slowly, and to never, ever enter into a power dynamic with someone you've never met.

You broke all three of these rules and now you're paying the price....................

Don't *ever* let someone play the dom or master card as a way to keep you from learning who they really are, the way this man did.

I'm very sorry you're hurting, but please, please, learn this lesson well. If you don't, you are destined to repeat it. Is that what you want?


That pretty much covers it.




D0MBLKMAN2Serve -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 11:08:41 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tallandsweet16

hello there!

i've recently started a relationship w/ Master. we've been talking for 2 months nearly...met here on CM and we live only 20 minutes from eachother. we have not met in person yet, as he has a process that he follows for all potential slaves...things have been going excellently. he's finishing up a 3 wk stint in south africa and returning home tomorrow. while he has been gone we have had good communication/contact, as much as possible while he has been away and in remote locations and busy with friends, etc. he has provided me with a daily task list, as well, and i've been emailing him my experiences.

on new years day, he emailed me very sweet emails.... i have not heard from him since. i'm very concerned and have never had this experience before...does anyone have experience with 1. a master/dom saying deep/emotional things and then quickly changing their mind, or 2. a master/dom ignoring them not for purposes of punishment (i think he'd tell me if i was being punished) but for purposes of seeing the degree of your submission and obedience even when things are difficult?

please, any advice would be appreciated. it has been a very long 3 days since hearing from him and i'm so upset--when i got his sweet/emotional emails on new years day i was on such a high...now, as you can imagine, i'm in such a low emotionally...part of me is pissy and wants to retaliate by not finishing my daily tasks...but the good girl in me says to push thru and if his feelings ahve changed, he'll tell me directly... maybe this is a test of my obedience!??

thank you. so much.





Classic! Did not realize men play this one too.

I have been there once ( yeah I got duped online ) and vowed never to get emotionally involved with someone before meeting at least once. I sincerely hope he gets in touch with you for your sake, but I would prepare myself for the worst.

When I was in this situation ( I can explain more if you want), I replayed everything said and written critically and I could see tell tale signs that I missed. That analysis was an eye opener for me; made me feel like a fool. But lesson learnt.

In your situation, if I place myself in his shoes, I would have wanted to meet you for sure, perhaps not the first week or second, but certainly a few weeks later, just a chat and coffee. This did not happen, suggests that he was not serious.

No amount of advise on this forum will help if you do not look back and analyze what went through. It is painful but I suggest you do it as it might be healing. Sorry that you are in such a situation. Conversing with people might help too.




D0MBLKMAN2Serve -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 11:12:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tallandsweet16

thank you for your replies.
i know FOR SURE he is not married. :) he has given me so much of his time..we have talked on the phone many times, and text and email. he was on safari in tanzania and no cell phone service, but he should be arriving back in chicago tomorrow w/no flight delays due to weather...

and osidegirl--you make a good point. but i'm afraid i already am very involved emotionally. :( i'm hurt over this...is it ALWAYS a bad sign when folks take it slowly b/f meeting? i never thought anything bad of it...now i'm worried even more?




Sorry you are hurting!

You seem to be quite sure about a few things on here. While he seems to have given you time, I am surprised you did not ask to meet. or did you? and he refused? or?

I can see why you are hurting given you are emotionally involved. It will take time and I hope he comes back, but like I said earlier, prepare for him never to be yours. Give it time.




KinkyNCuddly -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 11:15:17 AM)

So, everyone is right that this guy is insincere (married and/or a scammer or recreational emotional sadist).

I am guessing from your post that you are, like many subs (I include myself) emotionally needy and more than ready to meet a decent Dom for once. This emotional need can make us do stupid things.

After some shitty experiences of my own years ago, I feel that the best way to tackle this is to set up some iron-clad rules for yourself. Do it while you are in a logical frame of mind, and then consider them absolute inviolate Laws of Nature that you may not break at ANY time. This will prevent you from doing stupid things when you get to feeling too hopeful about someone/attached to someone/emotionally needy. Also, consider it training for being submissive, as you are submitting to rules and expectations of yourself. You don't get to bend let alone break these rules. You don't get to re-think them. You trust that the rules that you made when thinking clearly and not swayed by wishful desire are the correct ones to guide you towards something fulfilling.

First rule should be one about length of time between initial contact and meeting in person. NO excuses. If the person doesn't meet you within x weeks, you stop all contact. There is absolutely no reason someone shouldn't be able to meet you within 2 months. If they are really so busy/far away that they can't meet within that timeframe, then they should be postponing their search, not stringing someone along. And more likely the reasons they can't meet are excuses. When people are genuinely available and genuinely interested in someone, they are motivated to meet, even if it causes some inconvenience.

Second rule should be NEVER ever do sexual play online or over the phone before meeting someone. You really really do not know who you are dealing with at that point. Please listen to people who have more experience than you. Don't continue learning the hard way. How will you feel when that person disappears? Or turns out to be married? Or you meet them in person and they smell bad or have some habits you can't stand? The time will vary from person to person, but if you feel emotionally vulnerable and attached to someone after sex and/or play (which I am guessing you do), then also do not play with someone soon after meeting in person. Again, consider this an inviolate rule, it's there for your protection, and any decent Dom (actually any decent human being) will understand the need for such.

Other rules can include: only spending x amount of time interacting with someone before meeting, keeping your profile up unless you get a specific offer of exclusivity; verifying identity before meeting; walking if someone does not respect your hard limits (wanting to push limits just to push them and before understanding you well enough to know what the effect will be).

If you don't trust yourself to stick by these rules, you might want to find an assertive and confident (REAL LIFE) friend, tell them about these rules, and have them kick your ass a bit if you don't follow them, or are thinking of bending them.

The reason you should have these rules for yourself is because, frankly, you are emotionally weak (own it!) and also because so many people are absolute jerk creep assholes who care not one whit for your well-being, and they often have a honed set of rationalizations for steam-rolling over a subbie's reasonable requests. You need protection, and since you're not getting that now from a caring Dom, you need it from rules and friends.

Good luck!




D0MBLKMAN2Serve -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 11:19:32 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: KinkyNCuddly

The reason you should have these rules for yourself is because, frankly, you are emotionally weak (own it!) and also because so many people are absolute jerk creep assholes who care not one whit for your well-being, and they often have a honed set of rationalizations for steam-rolling over a subbie's reasonable requests. You need protection, and since you're not getting that now from a caring Dom, you need it from rules and friends.

Good luck!


WELL SAID GIRL! This is the time when you ought to stay outside your shell, talk to friends, mingle etc. etc. You will be OK




tiggerspoohbear -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 11:48:35 AM)

I hate to tell you, but you've been taken. It's a scam. One similar to what I went through 2 summers ago. Having previously worked with major corporations in stolen cards and fraud departments, I was deeply shamed that of all people, I was also taken for a major ride.

I've only discussed it with my very closest friend and my therapist. Never even here. I had to contact my bank, the local, provincial and the RCMP as well as fraud busters & a few other Canadian agencies. I was heartbroken, appalled that I could fall victim myself. It's never happened before or after. I learned a very tough lesson that will never be forgotten.

It was a Nigerian scam, the pics & ID were stolen from another real person. I had actually done my research online with the information I was given and found it matched what I was given. The police departments want to be notified but will tell you there's nothing they can really do. These scammers are very sophisticated in their methods and know how to get to people emotionally. It's how they make a living.

Unless he's willing to meet you within a week of his "supposed" return, drop him now. Do NOT send/give him any money at all. If he's really from here, then yes, he's most likely married, 99.9% probability.

I could go on, but I'll stop here. I think you've been given enough to think about. If you'd like to chat please know that my mailbox is open.

Good luck hun. From one who's been there.




orgasmdenial12 -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 12:16:51 PM)

The OP appears to have deleted their profile...




D0MBLKMAN2Serve -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 12:17:53 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12

The OP appears to have deleted their profile...


What's an OP. and I noticed that too. :-)




DomMeinCT -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 12:23:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

quote:

ORIGINAL: tallandsweet16
ouch. this doesn't look good for me, i see. awful. he has been gone for 3 wks in south africa of the 7 wks we've been chatting. now i feel stupid to have gotten involved emotionally. i hurt.

Being an international traveler myself, I was pretty sure there is cell phone service in Tanzania. So I checked and yes there is, most of the major companies cover it. If not, I am sure anyone that can afford an extended stays in Tanzania can afford "Low-cost Tanzania cell phone service by Range Roamer who provides short-term cell phone service for international travelers."

I am just saying that a man who says he can't talk to you because he is going to Tanzania on safari is pretty far fetched in this modern day. Seriously, I smell bullshit somewhere.



Not to mention even if you don't use a cell phone for calls, Skype (and other internet connectivity software) is available for free and can be used to text and call others for free (or pennies/min.)




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 12:27:35 PM)

FR

My cousin sent me a text while camping in a tent on the Serengeti. Just in case any of you folks were thinking of using the 'no cell phone reception in Africa' excuse in the future.




MistressDarkArt -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 12:27:52 PM)

^^Original poster.




MisterP61 -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 12:47:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: windchymes
For the record, though....your ID "sweet16" is a little disturbing. You might want to rethink that one.

I think this may be why. Guess we really wont know unless they re post saying this is who used to be tallandsweet16




Missokyst -> RE: being ignored by master?? help!? (1/5/2014 4:43:02 PM)

Well she isn't 16. She posted before after having discovered this site from a friend. If I remember correctly this person is in her early 40's.




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