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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 4:14:16 PM   
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However, "brainwashing" is very real.

This could actually be an interesting conversation, though I suspect your definition of brainwashing might be pretty close to something I'd accept as real. My concern is more with the definition of "cult" and "brainwashing" that professional deprogrammers try to use. I think their theories are facile, and more in line with making a buck off of worried families than focused on arriving at any kind of truth.

Regarding the OP, she's putting this guy on a pedestal, as though he did something secret and amazing to her that can only be spoken of in hushed tones. And, frankly, he's just a dude who performed some internal enslavement techniques. The Wizard of Oz is just a man behind the curtain.

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 4:23:41 PM   
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In the event that the solution you were looking for was to find someone who would take care of you while you re-acquainted yourself with the responsibilities of an adult life, I would be very cautious.

Plainly stated, your judgement is way off right now and more than likely can't make a sound decision about a sane, trustworthy person who can manage your issues.
A sane and trustworthy person would give you a wide berth.

Also, I wanted to mention something I found very disturbing in your posts: your assertion that his abandoning you was abusive.


"Abandoning" you (and really what happened, no matter how it feels, was he left you,... they aren't the same thing) was not the abusive part.
No, the brainwashing was.

edit: typo

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 4:42:38 PM   
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I don't really follow directions well . You may not need this help anymore but this may help others who are in similar situations of abandonment.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEVIIBCiQhg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 4:42:41 PM   
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I have had a master for 4 yrs who was a psychologist with military background. Some things I can only discuss in private message. As I do not want the information of how to do what we did to fall in the wrong hands. We did something that caused him to be placed on my Maslow hierarchy so I would need him like I need to breath pretty much.. I've heard Manson did something similar to the girls that followed him and it is a form of war tactic used on hostages. To make a long story short he has abandoned me.. I literally feel like I am dying.. I can't eat.. Ive had a non stop anxiety attack feeling ever since.. Like the air I need to breath is gone.. Any advice or help will be so greatly appreciated. All I have is my phone right now but I will check back as soon as I can.. Thank you...xoxou




Nothing mystical here. You're heartbroken, you miss him and almost everything you do reminds you of him. That hurts. You're going through withdrawal, and that's what grief is all about.



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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 4:43:29 PM   
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The previous psychologist I saw helped me with some research into it


Why are you not going back to him or asking for a referral?

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 4:46:26 PM   
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*munches on popcorn* Anyone like some?



Please pass the Goobers. This is going to be a good one.

Now the person cannot post the details in the forum but will do so in a private message to complete strangers. And the private message will assure this information will not fall into the wrong hands? Sounds a tad bit fishy for me

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 4:52:52 PM   
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*Passes popcorn and goobers and continues to munch*

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 5:07:15 PM   
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mummyman321 I was thinking the same exact thing. I guess we are to believe that discussing details on a forum would be a matter of national security but discussing them in a pm won't bring the feebees to her door if she whispers while she types.
I believe attention was the goal via her profile.
I'm sure there will be quite a few "Knights" in shining armor riding in with dicks in hand to save her.

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 5:09:36 PM   
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I'm not delusional I think nothing special of him.. I am not going to explain it because it could hurt someone if the information falls into the wrong hands on how to do it and I do not think a replacement is a permanent fix either only temporary. Again unless you read the post and know exactly what technique I'm talking about which only someone with certain military or specialized psychology background generally know then please refrain from commenting.. It was extremely hard for me to research and I know other subs like me who are looking for help with this.. So for that reason I just ask that you not comment if you do not know what this is about. And thank you again to all of those who posted sane caring and more knowledgable advice...xoxo

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 5:15:40 PM   
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This is a reminder that anyone may post as long as it does not violate ToS or the guidelines of the forums.

And this thread is now in Health and Safety

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 5:29:30 PM   
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I agree they may excercise their right but I also ask that they excersice compassion and respect if they do not know about the subject..

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 5:30:40 PM   
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It's considered normal thread drift and is acceptable to post.

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 6:58:57 PM   
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Being an avowed cynic, I have the strong suspicion that why she's seeking private messages from substitute masters, is that he got fed up and kicked her out. And she doesn't want to have to support herself but go move in with some other guy who will soon enough decide he made a mistake.

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 7:04:23 PM   
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To make a long story short he has abandoned me.. I literally feel like I am dying.. I can't eat.. Ive had a non stop anxiety attack feeling ever since.. Like the air I need to breath is gone....

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4562680/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4562680
Just a few months ago, you were ready to put yourself back on the market, like "the fresh piece of meat" that you are.
I'm concerned that you haven't been able to eat since then, yet still have the strength, and appear to be coherent enough,
to write full sentences.

I'm sorry for the pain you are dealing with because this relationship has ended, but I think it best that, instead of you
discussing these secret tactics with others, you take the time to focus on healing yourself first.
And for god's sake, eat something!

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 8:10:32 PM   
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So essentially what you've done has been to create an addiction, and that's likely the best way to think about it. A person can become addicted to anything, and addictions are not necessarily negative as discussed in William Glassar's book "Positive Addiction." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Glasser)

So consider your situation one of withdrawal rather than "need" in the sense that deprivation results in death. The real question is what structures did you have to support yourself before this addiction, and whether those are strong enough to return to or if they have been damaged or destroyed in this situation. Either way, a trauma can be defined as a situation that overwhelms a person's ability to cope, and that sounds like the situation here.

I'll add couple of knee jerk coping strategies below, but I would suggest finding an actual counselor to speak with you in person about this.

1. Reinforcement scheduling - It's likely the situation was created by pairing reinforcement and positive stimuli with your experiences inside the relationship. You can potentially create your own kind of counter-reinforcement schedules if you can find something to reward yourself with, or something you believe is constructive or creative.

2. Find help from other social connectedness / friends / family who you can be around -- or possibly develop more. -- One way in which we develop a sense of self is in the co-created person we become when relating to others. (You can hear my gestalt leanings coming out at the moment.) If you have anyone else who you can be with who will provide you with expectations of your reactions or behavior then these will help you solidify your sense of self. I say "expectations" here but I am NOT talking about this in the D/s sense, which is probably how you got in the situation in the first place. :P I'm referring more to a parent, brother, sister, cousin, old friend from college who knows you or knows who you were and will expect you to think about and react to the world in certain ways. I'm not suggesting adopting their view of you, but even a criticizing parent may give you some picture of yourself to struggle against, and provide an anchor of greater self-exploration or self-creation at this point. (Or, more likely, self re-creation).

3. There's also the option of dissociative strategies. These could be positive or negative, so I list them last. One negative example would be turning to substances as an escape. One positive example would be keeping yourself extremely busy so yo don't have time to think about it ... and that's actually even more helpful when paired with #1 or with some goal or sets of goals you can complete which will make you feel good about yourself / accomplished.

We can put all 3 of these together if you wanted to go volunteer to do some charity work for something you like. It could be rewarding to play with dogs at the shelter, or give you a sense of yourself in the eyes of others if you're reading to old folks ... and if you had enough of those kinds of things you could be distracted enough ...

Obviously, though, distraction is only a temporary coping strategy ... again, may I suggest an actual in-person therapist.

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/6/2014 8:25:51 PM   
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I'm not delusional I think nothing special of him.. I am not going to explain it because it could hurt someone if the information falls into the wrong hands on how to do it and I do not think a replacement is a permanent fix either only temporary. Again unless you read the post and know exactly what technique I'm talking about which only someone with certain military or specialized psychology background generally know then please refrain from commenting.. It was extremely hard for me to research and I know other subs like me who are looking for help with this.. So for that reason I just ask that you not comment if you do not know what this is about. And thank you again to all of those who posted sane caring and more knowledgable advice...xoxo


Jeez lady, stop being so dramatic.

I call bullshit on this, especially since you keep alluding to some special power this guy has and you will only talk to "private" messages.l

The fact that you asked how to meet another master on "short notice" says you are being delusional or manipulative, not sure which.

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/7/2014 12:21:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: softscreams

I'm not delusional I think nothing special of him.. I am not going to explain it because it could hurt someone if the information falls into the wrong hands on how to do it and I do not think a replacement is a permanent fix either only temporary. Again unless you read the post and know exactly what technique I'm talking about which only someone with certain military or specialized psychology background generally know then please refrain from commenting.. It was extremely hard for me to research and I know other subs like me who are looking for help with this.. So for that reason I just ask that you not comment if you do not know what this is about. And thank you again to all of those who posted sane caring and more knowledgable advice...xoxo


Yeah, I am going to have ta agree with sexyred1 on this one and call foul on this. I can tell you how to do mental breakdown and rebuilding. And believe me, it is not pretty. In order to reconstruct a person's personality, you have to utterly destroy their old one. As in obliterate any semblance of it, so that it does not conflict with the new one you wish to imprint. You following here? The process is ugly, horrifying, and quite illegal.

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/7/2014 12:37:05 AM   
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It's funny you say that.. Because I feel like a substitute master someone to take the place of the air he was to me would help... But were do you find a good non abusive master on short notice? Thank you.. A lot.. Was oddly what I feel I need too..xoxo


You don't, because anyone who was willing to jump in and make life decisions for a virtual stranger with (by her own admission) a serious mental health crisis in full swing would be definition be either abusive or a clueless idiot.

Even if Mr Wonderful was reading this now, wanting to help you, he wouldn't be able to create a healthy power exchange dynamic until you get yourself sorted out, and even then it would take time. Anyone who thinks they can swoop in and save you with their awesome domliness is a very dangerous person. And who's betting some of the 'helpful' private messages you have had are offering exactly that?

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/7/2014 1:06:25 AM   
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How I love the attempts to find a dom by way of manipulation AND, how you just proved it Poise.

That helpless... tragically so... need private messages and a replacement dom because she can't eat or breath... just kind of says it all, but with a thread where she is openly putting herself out there as meat... kinda kills off that secret, power that we cannot speak about because it could be done to another... bs.

I so love this place.

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RE: Need immediate HELP!! Psychologist counslers please... - 1/7/2014 2:13:32 AM   
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Op if you really are going through this then I'm sincerely sympathetic but you have to admit you were on oodle.com looking for a date only last week and I can't help think you are the same woman on 'Plenty of Fish' where you state in your profile that your now content enough in your life to start looking for a steady partner.

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