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RE: attention - 1/12/2014 9:15:54 PM   
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my experience of the submissive mindset is that they are absolutely attention junkies


I really must not be of a submissive mindset then. I definitely am not an attention junkie. I absolutely hate when the spotlight is on me.



I would say that none of my three girls are attention seekers. I suspect that is because that is the type of women I want in my life and those that are attention seekers don't tend to stick around as I don't cater to that type. It would seem if a person caters to that behaviour they will draw that type of person.

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RE: attention - 1/12/2014 9:51:33 PM   
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my experience of the submissive mindset is that they are absolutely attention junkies


I really must not be of a submissive mindset then. I definitely am not an attention junkie. I absolutely hate when the spotlight is on me.


You understand I'm talking about attention from the sub's dom rather than a "spotlight" from the outside world?

Focus.


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RE: attention - 1/12/2014 10:04:24 PM   
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You got good advice from lots of people, anyone can post on any thread.

Wisdom comes from life experience, not your D/s designation.


You're implying that males view life situations from the same perspective and priorities as females? Errrm, even though it's been documented that we're apparently from 2 very different planets, altogether?

And then there's the D &/or s perspective, too, nothing unique about their respective hard-wiring, either?

You're a fem/sub, you don't even appreciate that the fem/sub OP might just wanna hear more from the perspective she relates best to but isn't wired into? Surely there's at least a clue in the forum the OP's chosen to ask in.... <shrugs>

Focus.



1. I was not replying to you.
2. I can fucking post wherever the hell I want according to forum rules.
3. I neither stated or implied anything about men or women, thus your interpretation comes from your own issues.
4. Not all advice on a kink site has to fit into a narrow view. The smartest people utilize basic human experience to give advice, which can then apply whether the OP is sub, Dom, blue or green.

Keep shrugging, that is easier than expanding your perspective I imagine.


You ragged on the OP for specifically acknowledging the input of my male/dom perspective. Feeling a little left out, were you?

Yeah, I'm the one publicly displaying (attention? lol) issues here; got it.

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RE: attention - 1/12/2014 10:11:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

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my experience of the submissive mindset is that they are absolutely attention junkies


I really must not be of a submissive mindset then. I definitely am not an attention junkie. I absolutely hate when the spotlight is on me.



I would say that none of my three girls are attention seekers. I suspect that is because that is the type of women I want in my life and those that are attention seekers don't tend to stick around as I don't cater to that type. It would seem if a person caters to that behaviour they will draw that type of person.


Looks like the attention seeker in your d/s is you....

Nonetheless, I'll stick with my assertion that it's a sub trait. <nudge>

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RE: attention - 1/12/2014 10:29:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Focus50


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

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my experience of the submissive mindset is that they are absolutely attention junkies


I really must not be of a submissive mindset then. I definitely am not an attention junkie. I absolutely hate when the spotlight is on me.


You understand I'm talking about attention from the sub's dom rather than a "spotlight" from the outside world?

Focus.



Yup and Master understands that I don't really like too much attention from him either. I don't beg or cry for it. When he has time for me, great. When he doesn't, that's fine too. We're mature adults who realize life happens. We both have lives outside of the both of us that occupies our time as well.


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RE: attention - 1/13/2014 2:51:21 AM   
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Yup and Master understands that I don't really like too much attention from him either. I don't beg or cry for it. When he has time for me, great. When he doesn't, that's fine too. We're mature adults who realize life happens. We both have lives outside of the both of us that occupies our time as well.


Then just what is your point?

What you said first up; that you're not of a submissive mindset?

Or that you are and all the subs I've known aren't - that they're somehow "doing it wrong"?

Or that they're (or we're) not all adult and mature like you and Kana?

And that despite being at CM for almost as long as me, "attention seeking sub" is a whole new concept to you?

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RE: attention - 1/13/2014 3:49:45 AM   
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Thank you for the reply. I have had a major life change just 1 year ago......I guess I didn't realize that it was making me feel insecure.. I have spoken to my Master about my feeling needy and insecure lately and he understood and told me I am his slave and I should never forget that..............



Life happens. We feel secure sometimes and insecure others. That is reality. If you have been having a major life issue that happened a year ago, it's time to start seeking some support about it. Time simply does not heal wounds. It is a necessary part of healing, but without the work put in of facing and dealing with an issue, time simply passes while wounds continue to gape.

You told him that you have a legitimate and long term concern. His response is that you are his and don't forget it? Really? How is that helpful? It may ease the immediate discomfort of a symptom, but it certainly isn't addressing whatever is creating the insecurity and neediness.

I feel insecure because...
After my child graduated high school, I became ashamed that I never finished high school... then take a GED class (or whatever the equivalent is in your country) and remedy that.
I have gained 10 kilos after menopause... then see your doctor, exercise, and change your eating habits.
You are looking at other women, and I don't feel pretty... then enjoy decorating your body for its inherent value, act like an adult in the relationship, and be a supportive partner... and figure out (with him) if he IS looking and whether it is a healthy enjoyment versus planning to end the relationship.
My children have left, and I have empty nest syndrome... then pick up a hobby and make sure you maintain some healthy connections with your children.
I'm exhausted all the time... then check with your doctor for medical issues and take care of your health.
I can't manage my money and hit an age milestone which smacked me in the head about retirement... then take a finance class hire an accountant, or read some books and get your finances in order.
Someone was mugged in my neighborhood last year, and I'm afraid of being mugged... then attend a self defense workshop or learn a martial art.

You see, insecurity and neediness come from a vast array of reasons. Time doesn't simply heal these things. Actions and mindset do. I would find a response such as, "You belong to me and that won't change" to be not only trite but an insult to my intelligence and a red flag that he was not paying attention to our relationship or the gal he's supposed to be involved with. And then I'd wonder what the fuck was going on in our relationship, and would appreciate that insecurity as an appropriate red flag as a warning that something was out of whack... and I'd make damn sure we as a couple addressed it and worked toward fixing it or saying goodbye in a healthy way.

High hopes are not enough... focus and attention, intention and action are what make things work.

good luck,
sunshine

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RE: attention - 1/13/2014 8:34:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Focus50

Looks like the attention seeker in your d/s is you....

Focus.



Actually that is closer to the truth than you realize. I want their attention. I want their focus on me and my will. I cultivate them to be always be mindful of what I want.

However, I don't have to beg or demand it. They give it! Because it's been my experience that balanced functional secure S-types tend to be givers of attention and not seekers of it. This is not to say they don't seek or need attention from time to time. But it not a motivating drive to their behaviours.

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RE: attention - 1/13/2014 8:37:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss


High hopes are not enough... focus and attention, intention and action are what make things work.

good luck,
sunshine


Ok. This has to be quote of the day!!!!!!!!

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RE: attention - 1/13/2014 10:00:55 AM   
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I didn't post this question to make waves with other subs ,it wasn't meant to sound like I crave attention all the time or that I never get attention.....AND it doesn't mean My Master is throwing me away, please.....this was in the Masters message boards to get a Masters perspective....I am trying to understand my new role as slave........So That is that........Sometimes you need to ask questions to seek out things and yes My Master has answered my many questions....

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RE: attention - 1/13/2014 10:14:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: highhopes4us

I didn't post this question to make waves with other subs ,it wasn't meant to sound like I crave attention all the time or that I never get attention.....AND it doesn't mean My Master is throwing me away, please.....this was in the Masters message boards to get a Masters perspective....I am trying to understand my new role as slave........So That is that........Sometimes you need to ask questions to seek out things and yes My Master has answered my many questions....

It's ok to use one period to end a sentence. You don't need to use multiple periods.

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RE: attention - 1/13/2014 10:18:21 AM   
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I like using multiple periods to end a sentence...

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RE: attention - 1/13/2014 10:20:10 AM   
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I like using multiple periods to end a sentence...


That's a Freudian ellipse...

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RE: attention - 1/13/2014 10:24:11 AM   
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Thank you for your reply.. Your advice was well noted.. There was ALOT of information that is very helpful....Thanks again....Ps when Master told me I was his don't forget it, Master meant it as don't worry HE is here for his slave..

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RE: attention - 1/13/2014 10:25:20 AM   
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your point?

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RE: attention - 1/13/2014 11:05:13 AM   
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Exiled doesn't always need a point, he just IS. You'll learn different posting styles from various posters as time goes by. He's one of the good ones.

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RE: attention - 1/13/2014 11:09:58 AM   
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Exiled doesn't always need a point, he just IS. You'll learn different posting styles from various posters as time goes by. He's one of the good ones.


Awwww... You're so good to me. Have your Sir do extra evil things to you, for me

Exiled

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RE: attention - 1/13/2014 11:20:11 AM   
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I'm sure he'll need very little prompting for that.

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RE: attention - 1/13/2014 11:21:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tiggerspoohbear

I'm sure he'll need very little prompting for that.


Queue porn music.

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RE: attention - 1/13/2014 1:13:09 PM   
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Opinion...

When the need for attention interferes with making a living or getting needed chores done, it is being too needy.

i.e. (from a painful memory) 146 text messages and nine phone calls in one day at work. And not a single one of them was in reference to anything I could do from work or an emergency that would require me to leave work.

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