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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 11:53:54 AM   
brightspot


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Status: offline 		I don't feel I need to answer to you Emperor and I don't give a hoot what you think about me and what kind of person you believe me to be, you can bend over and  my ass.
 
But I will say to the rest of you reading, I found Pete's OP and subsequent posts to be judgemental and with an outright pompous attitude, that is how I took it. Slamming others pics and their abilities to submit one of studio quality. There are very few here that do and I find the photo's they submit to be more original and show more of their personality.
 
The worst pic's I've ever seen submitted were professional glamour shot photo's and I find pro quality shot's somewhat fake looking and unappealing.  
 
I don't care for Pete's pic, I think it is goofy looking and I wanted Pete to get a feel of what it was liked to be judged by the pic you choose to submit.
I gave a reasonable response the first time, I just thought to start telling people how to sit, pose, where to put their hands a bit more condesending.
I felt the OP was just in bad taste altogether.
 
I agree maybe I did go over board I could have used more control with my words, I do have difficulty with that sometimes but I bit on purpose to exagerate my point.
 
I love photography and fortunately have been good enough to sell some of my work and/or be hired to take shots of individuals and special occasions. Most people have no idea about the creative professional eye. I thought it rude to say that their choices of pic's are their "chance to make a good first impression" and that "most would be better off not submitting a photo at all".
 
I think impressions about a pic pretty much depends on the person viewing it. What Pete might find appealing others might not. I like pic's that are more on the artsy side that would be something that grabs my attention and sometimes that includes a pic that is not in sharp focus. Besides that isn't how I make my first impressions about people here at CM. A lot of people choose to use avatars or someone else's pic, like a celebrity.
 
I will admit I was harsh in my second post, my knee jerk reaction was feeling for the people who might now feel their pic's weren't good enough or worse yet the reason for lack of someone contacting them.
It may have been better had I just bit my tongue and it probably would have been wiser on my part to let it roll off my back but sometimes I get feed up and do just react to some people here and their greater than thou attitude.
I think Pete also could have chosen his OP words and responses better too as to not sound so belittling. 
 
I think a great profile pic is in the eye of the beholder.
 
*Brightspot




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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 12:39:27 PM   
ArtimisBlack


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Status: offline 		Thank you MrrPete, I'll try and redo the color levels, particularly in the one with too much flash.

And Brighspot...I don't know what's going on with you but recently I have found your posts to be very negative and you very angry and quick to judge. I used to love reading your posts, they were so insightful......what happened?

About profile photos in general....
I agree with MrrPete. Even though I don't judge people solely by their photos, it is a mark against someone if I can't even see them in the picture because it is extremely out of focus, blurry, etc. Even worse are the ones that just show 1 body part (no, I'm not referring to the avatars) like 1 out of focus eye. Ok, so maybe you have beautiful eyes, but if I'm going to see a picture of you, I want to see more then an eye, no matter how beautiful. If you don't have a suitable photo, it might be better not to use one at all.

A little off topic....The actual profile
Now let’s say you have a stunning photo, will I jump to e-mail you? No. Why not? Because a pretty picture is not enough- I want to know something about you. For some reason some people seem to think that just because they have a lovely photo up, there is no need to write a profile. I can't stand this. How are people supposed to know if they even stand the remotest chance of being compatible with you if you say nothing about yourself or what you're looking for? Really now, the internet and this site make it easy enough as it is, there is no excuse to be that lazy. Write something people! Oh yeah....and please, try and make sure that when you select what you are looking for, you select the correct option. The search feature uses that -not what you writer in your profile- to match up queries. It's very frustrating to do a search and have someone indicate they are looking for one thing and then you read their profile and it's obvious they are not looking for that at all.

Rant over.....the soapbox comes with me! 

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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 1:06:59 PM   
Quivver


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Status: offline 		fast reply...... I'll vote for better photos when others want them, but if they are happy with a cam shot who am I to agrue?  I hate Glamor shots, they suck, I much prefer to see a good candid.  It's hard to get a great pic of yourself !  I end up taking my own and although I dont have one posted now it's only until I get a new camera since the old one was distroyed in the accident.  I've been told I have a good eye............ and would love to try it out on any willing victom that is in my area. 

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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 1:24:40 PM   
hizgeorgiapeach


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Status: offline 		I detest having my photo taken most of the time.  It happens, but it's not something that I particularly enjoy and so I'm NOT about to actually go spend Money having one taken.  Especially for the "just so I'll have a really good one to post online" catagory.  If someone is shallow enough to base whether they want to get to know me on just a profile photo - I probably have very little use for them anyway. 

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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 1:36:07 PM   
marieToo


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

Brightspot:   Who the hell are you to treat Pete this way?  You are a rude, unthinking woman and this post of yours speaks ill of your quality as a person!  Change your name to "dullone".  It fits you better.

(Note, I have no vested interest in this discussion, and I don't know Mr. Pete.  I'm just a hawk for bad manners.)

E.


Scolding someone for being rude, then calling them names in the fashion of a typical 7 year old, somehow removes the validity of your conviction. 

<Just thought you might appreciate an outsiders's view>

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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 1:38:18 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		I liked the one of you with what I believe are drumsticks and stars, you should  put that one back up.



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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 1:40:34 PM   
marieToo


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Status: offline 		To the OP:

I frankly detest having my picture taken.  I don't like posing, and I see portrait studio shots as "common" looking.  I do have photos of myself, some cam, some digital.  I do share them, with those of interest to me.  However, anyone who used my photo to base their "first impression" opinion of me on, is not someone with whom I would want any type of relationship.

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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 1:41:32 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		So that's why I never saw your picture?

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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 2:11:05 PM   
Emperor1956


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Status: offline 		You must hang with a high class group of seven year olds.  I didn't call any names.  And its nice that you can't even bother to post a profile, but are quick to judge others. 

Anyway, I thought Pete's comments were interesting, as did the majority of people responding save "marie" and "brightspot".  The issue is about online photos, not how you perceive Me.  Again, post a profile and maybe you'll have some credibility (but I doubt it).

E.

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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 2:48:24 PM   
brightspot


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Status: offline 		ArtmisBlack,
 
I tend to think that my positive posts outweigh the one's where I let someones ignorance get the best of me and I respond spontanously in anger. I did explain above that that is something I sometimes have difficulty with and am working on changing.
 
But I find also people a lot of the time do not recognise when I am thoughtful, tender, caring and really give a shit about whats going on with the person writing. But they are much more apt to hold on to anything negative I may have said and are so ready to pounce on me when I get ticked and sometimes make the mistake of writing and pressing submit too quickly.  
 
I say sometimes I over-react because most times I do take time to give it some thought because I know it is not wise for me to respond off the cuff and although I might react negatively to some posts I have done so with composure and I feel I was just in what I have said.
 
Thanks for asking the question of why it is like that for me sometimes, instead of just labeling me an "unthinking" purposefully "rude" person because that is not the case.
 
I will be the first to admit I have little tolerance or respect for some dominant males here. Those that look down on others, insinuate things and/or point out how others are not worthy or what is "wrong" in a given situation. Those who think being dominant means you hold a higher more prestigeous place here and demand respect from all who are of a submissive nature or who they think are below them.
 Sometimes I allow their actions of grandiosity and pretentious attitudes to cause me to react with even less respect and yes in a negative way. Some reason for that is because of how I have been treated by domineering men in my life and some of it is simply because they have proven to me to be just a jerk on the outside and an asshole on the inside.
 
Then again there are dominant men here who I have grown to have respect for and admire their conduct and humble interaction here in the forums and they also have earned some trust from me which isn't an easy thing for me to extend to dominant men.
 
Again, thanks for inquiring why instead of bashing me with personal attacks with out knowing. I appreciate that and it gives me the space to process instead of when someone attacks, then I am more apt to re-attack in my defense or just shut down and validate the reasons I feel as I do.
 
*Brightspot

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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 2:51:35 PM   
caitlyn


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Status: offline 		For some reason, my pictures always looked like crap ... maybe it was the shooting them with a cell phone thing.
 
But, I've given up on pictures after my last incarnation, and the twenty-eight million emails asking what I was arrested for.

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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 2:56:57 PM   
brightspot


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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail
I liked the one of you with what I believe are drumsticks and stars, you should  put that one back up.


Thanks Ron, maybe I will put it in my profile pic's just for you.
BTW it was yellow circles and a cigar. 
 
*Brightspot

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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 2:59:39 PM   
IronBear


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quote:

ORIGINAL: NoblisOblige

Unless you have direct scottish highland clan ancestory,you have no right to wear that Glengarry.


I wonder if you would make the same comment if I were to use a photo of me in dress tartans.... Heh the clansmen would be up in arms if I wore less though....


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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 3:04:18 PM   
caitlyn


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Status: offline 		I figured you were called "brightspot" because you flamed so often.
 
I know you've had at me a few times ... but either way, I still enjoy your posts.

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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 3:06:17 PM   
perverseangelic


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Status: offline 		The problem I run into with CM is that I resize my photos such that I can post them elswhere (generally 350-550 pixles in width) CM blows that up all weird, and I get grainy photos.  I don't see any reason to submit huge photos here. I've resized 'em and saved 'em at that size. Plus, since most people look at the photos in minuature, I'd rather thy show up nicely there than look all squished.


I -do- like seeing well done, well composed photos, but as we're not allowed to submit professional shots, I figure it's not too big of a deal. Some people aren't great self-photographers.


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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 3:40:05 PM   
marieToo


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

You must hang with a high class group of seven year olds.  I didn't call any names.  And its nice that you can't even bother to post a profile, but are quick to judge others. 

Anyway, I thought Pete's comments were interesting, as did the majority of people responding save "marie" and "brightspot".  The issue is about online photos, not how you perceive Me.  Again, post a profile and maybe you'll have some credibility (but I doubt it).

E.


You most certainly did call a person names. "Dullspot" comes to mind. 

The "issue" is about anything I or anyone else chooses to comment on.  Just like the issue in *your* post was how you perceived Brightspot.  You commented on her behavior.  I commented on yours.  No difference.

Also, I would appreciate you not doing my talking for me.  Its not your place to state what I felt about Pete's comments.  That would be *my* place, not yours.  I said nothing about Pete. My comment wasn't made  to support Brightspot *or* Pete. All I did was comment on your attack of another poster, because I found it remarkably hypocritical.  You seem to enjoy employing a diversionary tactic (my lack of profile), rather than to own what you did. 

Bottom line:  You scolded a person for behaving rudely, then you behaved even *more* rudely.  I pointed it out.  Pure and simple.  Dont like it?  Too bad.

Oh....and by the way,  Im not here seeking "credibility".  And if I were, I would seek it from someone respectable, not from you.

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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 3:51:06 PM   
marieToo


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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

So that's why I never saw your picture?


check your email.  heh..

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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 3:54:20 PM   
Level


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quote:

ORIGINAL: brightspot

I 
I will admit I was harsh in my second post, my knee jerk reaction was feeling for the people who might now feel their pic's weren't good enough or worse yet the reason for lack of someone contacting them.
It may have been better had I just bit my tongue and it probably would have been wiser on my part to let it roll off my back but sometimes I get feed up and do just react to some people here and their greater than thou attitude.
I think Pete also could have chosen his OP words and responses better too as to not sound so belittling. 
 
I think a great profile pic is in the eye of the beholder.
 
*Brightspot





I think you waaaaay over-reacted to what Pete said. He was only giving hints on making someone's pics better, and he complimented them as well. And making fun of him and his pic was uncalled for.

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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 4:29:39 PM   
brightspot


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Status: offline 		Whatever Level, I really don't care what you think. I got tired of reading all your self-righteous posts a long time ago. Your opinions are about as important to me as the importance of people having a perfect professionally done photo up. Nata at all.
 
Where is your smug mug anyway? Why don't you put one up so we can all critique it and tell you how to pose to make it look better?
 
*Brightspot
 
*Brightspot



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RE: Profile Photos - 7/5/2006 4:51:12 PM   
Level


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quote:

ORIGINAL: brightspot

Whatever Level, I really don't care what you think. I got tired of reading all your self-righteous posts a long time ago. Your opinions are about as important to me as the importance of people having a perfect professionally done photo up. Nata at all.
 
Where is your smug mug anyway? Why don't you put one up so we can all critique it and tell you how to pose to make it look better?
 
*Brightspot
 
*Brightspot




LOL at "self-righteous"........ drama, drama, drama. If I did have a pic up, and someone politely gave me a tip, I certainly would't go into hormonal overdrive.
 
Mr. Smug

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