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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 8:26:00 PM   
BamaD


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Just as the now dead texter was rude and disregarded the policy of the movie theater, so did Reeves by taking his handgun into a theater that was a gun free zone. I guess just as the man texting, Reeves felt he didn't have to abide by policy either.





Please provide a link to prove it was a gun free zone.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 8:31:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now you are flat out lying, I've never, ever said anything to indicate that this is justifiable.

You are making up the dishonest strawman that anyone who wants to know what the facts are before rushing to lynch someone, must be in favor of murder, and that's a baseless accusation.




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Very easily, if the texting was so bothersome to him, he should have taken his wife and moved seats. Where did it say a standing face to face confrontation took place for any period of time? Just as he managed to take his seat, get up and go to management and return, he could have left again.
In your opinion you can wrap it up anyway you want to warrant a justifiable shooting, and in my opinion he's a murderer.




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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 8:47:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		You can go to the theaters web site or read at the bottom of this article
http://www.wcvb.com/news/national/sheriff-1-man-killed-in-fla-movie-theater-shooting/-/9848944/23906350/-/ghirow/-/index.html#ixzz2qJWSlbmH

As far as the lying, please. I stated in your opinion you can... not in your opinion you do. Big difference.


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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 8:50:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I apologize, the link I posted above was not the correct one...


http://www.wcvb.com/news/national/sheriff-1-man-killed-in-fla-movie-theater-shooting/-/9848944/23906350/-/ghirow/-/index.html#ixzz2qJWSlbmH

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 8:56:40 PM   
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I apologize, the link I posted above was not the correct one...


http://www.wcvb.com/news/national/sheriff-1-man-killed-in-fla-movie-theater-shooting/-/9848944/23906350/-/ghirow/-/index.html#ixzz2qJWSlbmH




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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 9:05:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm sorry, but no weapons to me means just that... no weapons, as I'm sure that's how most average citizens take it. I would not split hairs with the policy and just simply left my hand gun securely at home.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 9:06:53 PM   
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I'm sorry, but no weapons to me means just that... no weapons, as I'm sure that's how most average citizens take it. I would not split hairs with the policy and just simply left my hand gun securely at home.


If you were in the military you know that everything is a weapon.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 9:10:12 PM   
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reasonable people dont complain to management about a someone TEXTING , BEFORE the movie starts





The previews were rolling, so the lights in the theater had gone down, Lucy. If you wait until after the movie starts, you miss part of the movie.



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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 9:12:01 PM   
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reasonable people dont complain to management about a someone TEXTING , BEFORE the movie starts





The previews were rolling, so the lights in the theater had gone down, Lucy. If you wait until after the movie starts, you miss part of the movie.



But that doesn't make Reeves wrong.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 9:17:16 PM   
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But that doesn't make Reeves wrong.



Not at all.



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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 9:18:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, I was in the military for 14 years and have all the self defense training to go along with it. I'm no Macgyver but I can be resourceful if I need be, but I don't think that "everything can be a weapon" was the intent when the policy was written nor is that the understanding of the general population.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 9:20:34 PM   
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Yes, I was in the military for 14 years and have all the self defense training to go along with it. I'm no Macgyver but I can be resourceful if I need be, but I don't think that "everything can be a weapon" was the intent when the policy was written nor is that the understanding of the general population.

No, but it is the reality.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 9:23:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Because it may be reality to some of us, the standard policy of the theater is no weapons, which implies that Reeves violated policy just as much as the other did.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 10:24:48 PM   
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Because it may be reality to some of us, the standard policy of the theater is no weapons, which implies that Reeves violated policy just as much as the other did.

Such bans are questionable under Florida law.
This was acknowledged by a blatantly antigun site.
It is not unreasonable to think he may not have even noticed the post.
The fact is that Oulsen initiated the violence.
This is undeniable and the single most important fact.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 10:36:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Has it been substantiated that Oulsen initiated the violence? Has it been determined what exact words were exchanged before the upheaval of popcorn? It has been said that Reeves returned to his seat in an angry manner, did he verbally threaten Oulsen or possibly toss a Goober at Oulsens head first? We will only know one side of the story, that of Reeves but there is nothing that man can say that will ever make me believe that he felt such an eminent threat on his life to justify the shooting.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 10:51:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		As far as it not being unreasonable for him not to see the post, that's a bit hard to swallow seeing how it was not his first time in the theater. Could that alone be the reason that he had his handgun "concealed" in his pocket?

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 11:17:05 PM   
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So people who are being raped and murdered, and have a way to stop the threat, are unreasonable if they don't just lie back and enjoy it?

That's pathetic.


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reasonable people do not kill other people



Being raped or murdered is not a reasonable act. In any way of the word "reasonable".
The day it becomes so... that will be pathetic

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/17/2014 11:56:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Do you ever give up with the crap of lying about what other people have posted? I didn't say 'murder was reasonable', I described classic killing in self defense that you included in your blanket label of 'killing' as not reasonable.

Quit trying to spin your way out of it, and either back up your overblown claim that killings as a whole are unreasonable, or admit that in life out from behind the computer screen, there are exceptions.


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So people who are being raped and murdered, and have a way to stop the threat, are unreasonable if they don't just lie back and enjoy it?

That's pathetic.


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reasonable people do not kill other people



Being raped or murdered is not a reasonable act. In any way of the word "reasonable".
The day it becomes so... that will be pathetic



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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/18/2014 12:29:22 AM   
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"So people who are being raped and murdered, and have a way to stop the threat, are unreasonable if they don't just lie back and enjoy it?

That's pathetic. "


You said what you said..its there, the fact that you dont get why I said what I said, is YOUR Problem, I never claimed you said murder or rape was reasonable. OR what they should do about it.
Dont put words in my mouth again.


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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 1/18/2014 2:34:29 AM   
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If you were in the military you know that everything is a weapon.


Even the victims ???????

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