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DRAKE326 -> RE: Respect ..... (1/20/2014 4:40:29 PM)

As for the vanilla I have yet to figure out how to get rid of that stupid ice cream cone. I am open to suggestions. As for discipline it refers more to correction and reinforcement of positive self image. Misconduct would be addressed as was better described and discipline may well be as simple as stating ones disappointment. If I were to own someone which would definitely not be anytime in the immediate future , mine and their dymanic would be based on mutual respect. I would hope to look to eventual emancipation hopefully with both of us happier for being in our mutually agreed upon dynamic. Please know I am more about positive reinforcement than focusing on the negative.I hope this helps with the ongoing discussion.



mnottertail -> RE: Respect ..... (1/20/2014 4:42:15 PM)

it is a function of your number of posts.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<except for me.



Kana -> RE: Respect ..... (1/20/2014 5:10:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DRAKE326

[:D]I am fairly confident. That means I have at least a litle self respect. As a Dom I find it important to respect others as much or more than I respect myself. Yes that means I respect subs too. Just because someone may want to serve me does not mean they are due any less consideration than anyone else. But I will discipline as necessary for misconduct and especially for anyone that serves me and does not respect themselves.These are just my thoughts and an opinion or two.

I point blank don't/won't/can't and don't wanna respect everybody.Let's face it,some folks just ain't worth it.
I respect those who deserve it.
As for prospective subs-of course I respect them. If nothing else, I respect the snot out of their insanity level in considering submitting to moi :-)

Lastly,why in the world would I ever have a slave who doesn't respect herself?
I don't shop in the dented can aisle and I don't play with broken toys. I can't speak for anyone else here but why in the world would I tool around town in a busted up Pinto when I could be doing what I prefer, driving a Ferrari



Milesnmiles -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 6:05:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

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But I will discipline as necessary for misconduct and especially for anyone that serves me and does not respect themselves.


Until someone is yours, you don't have the right to discipline anyone. If someone thought I disrespected them and tried to discipline me when we weren't in a dynamic, I would laugh at them.
Even if a person is not in a "dynamic" with you, that does not give you the "right" to disrespect someone. So if you disrespect someone, whether in a "dynamic" or not, you can expect some discipline.

Just a note of explanation, discipline means teach, which could be as simple as saying; "Looks like you could use some work on controlling your speech" or "It seems you could use some work on your submissive attitude".



Milesnmiles -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 6:13:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kana
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I point blank don't/won't/can't and don't wanna respect everybody.Let's face it,some folks just ain't worth it.
I respect those who deserve it.
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Everyone should be given a modicum of respect, if not for them then for you, showing respect for others makes you a better person even if the other person doesn't deserve it.



searching4mysir -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 6:29:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles


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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

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But I will discipline as necessary for misconduct and especially for anyone that serves me and does not respect themselves.


Until someone is yours, you don't have the right to discipline anyone. If someone thought I disrespected them and tried to discipline me when we weren't in a dynamic, I would laugh at them.
Even if a person is not in a "dynamic" with you, that does not give you the "right" to disrespect someone. So if you disrespect someone, whether in a "dynamic" or not, you can expect some discipline.

Just a note of explanation, discipline means teach, which could be as simple as saying; "Looks like you could use some work on controlling your speech" or "It seems you could use some work on your submissive attitude".




And that would make me laugh even more. I'm only submissive to one man not every desktop dominant who thinks because he clicked a box on the internet that he is entitled to anything, so anyone who comments on my "submissive attitude" doesn't know me nor do they have the right to "teach" me about my attitude.



KnightofMists -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 7:53:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles


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ORIGINAL: Kana
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I point blank don't/won't/can't and don't wanna respect everybody.Let's face it,some folks just ain't worth it.
I respect those who deserve it.
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Everyone should be given a modicum of respect, if not for them then for you, showing respect for others makes you a better person even if the other person doesn't deserve it.




Fuck that... I am with Kana! By not showing someone respect that doesn't deserve my respect is how I show respect to myself! Secondly, showing respect to someone that doesn't deserve it doesn't elevate a person. It lowers one to the piece of scum that doesn't deserve respect.



Milesnmiles -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 8:43:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir


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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles


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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

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But I will discipline as necessary for misconduct and especially for anyone that serves me and does not respect themselves.


Until someone is yours, you don't have the right to discipline anyone. If someone thought I disrespected them and tried to discipline me when we weren't in a dynamic, I would laugh at them.
Even if a person is not in a "dynamic" with you, that does not give you the "right" to disrespect someone. So if you disrespect someone, whether in a "dynamic" or not, you can expect some discipline.

Just a note of explanation, discipline means teach, which could be as simple as saying; "Looks like you could use some work on controlling your speech" or "It seems you could use some work on your submissive attitude".




And that would make me laugh even more. I'm only submissive to one man not every desktop dominant who thinks because he clicked a box on the internet that he is entitled to anything, so anyone who comments on my "submissive attitude" doesn't know me nor do they have the right to "teach" me about my attitude.
What a fine "submissive attitude", deciding for yourself to disrespect others. ;-)



Milesnmiles -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 8:47:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists


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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles


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ORIGINAL: Kana
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I point blank don't/won't/can't and don't wanna respect everybody.Let's face it,some folks just ain't worth it.
I respect those who deserve it.
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Everyone should be given a modicum of respect, if not for them then for you, showing respect for others makes you a better person even if the other person doesn't deserve it.




Fuck that... I am with Kana! By not showing someone respect that doesn't deserve my respect is how I show respect to myself! Secondly, showing respect to someone that doesn't deserve it doesn't elevate a person. It lowers one to the piece of scum that doesn't deserve respect.
I can see by your post, that you "respect" yourself a lot and have truly "elevated" your self. ;-)



Missokyst -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 8:50:20 AM)

I don't know about anyone else but I am a submissive only to the dominant to whom I am attached.  I am not a submissive to all and need not display a submissive "attitude" to anyone else.  Sure someone can comment on my behavior anytime, these days being rude to strangers is the new discipline.  Fortunately I take that with a grain of salt, given that they mean nothing to me. 

As for respect, respect is given to those who deserve it.  Otherwise simple courtesy is more than enough. 

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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles

Just a note of explanation, discipline means teach, which could be as simple as saying; "Looks like you could use some work on controlling your speech" or "It seems you could use some work on your submissive attitude".




KnightofMists -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 8:56:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles


I can see by your post, that you "respect" yourself a lot and have truly "elevated" your self. ;-)




Yup I do. Integrity means something to me. I give respect to those that deserve it and they can trust it to be authentic. I find that much better than the shallow veneer of respect that you speak of. I say what I think and do what say.



Milesnmiles -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 8:56:27 AM)

As I have often said; common courtesy, common decency and common sense aren't so common any more. ;-)



myotherself -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 9:04:06 AM)

I'm with you there, KoM. I am courteous to everyone unless they show they don't deserve it and I respect those who have earned my respect.

Slapping a 'dominant' badge on their big, bad selves does not make someone a dominant, nor does it afford them any level of extra courtesy than any other person deserves. It certainly does not mean they are to be respected without having earned it.






Milesnmiles -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 9:14:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists
Yup I do. Integrity means something to me. I give respect to those that deserve it and they can trust it to be authentic. I find that much better than the shallow veneer of respect that you speak of. I say what I think and do what say.
Integrity, standing by your principles, is only a good thing if your principles are worth standing by. ;-)



Milesnmiles -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 9:30:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: myotherself

I'm with you there, KoM. I am courteous to everyone unless they show they don't deserve it and I respect those who have earned my respect.

Slapping a 'dominant' badge on their big, bad selves does not make someone a dominant, nor does it afford them any level of extra courtesy than any other person deserves. It certainly does not mean they are to be respected without having earned it.
Ah youth, ain't it grand.

He doesn't fit my definition of a person that deserves respect so he doesn't deserve respect.

Stop and take a look around, everyone here probably falls into a category that doesn't deserve respect in someone's mind, does that mean they don't deserve respect? Or does it mean we should try to be a little more open minded and try to treat everyone with at least a modicum of respect.



myotherself -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 9:50:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles

Ah youth, ain't it grand.



I'm nearly 50 years old. But I guess age and youth is relative...[8|]

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He doesn't fit my definition of a person that deserves respect so he doesn't deserve respect.



Of course. They are MY definitions of a person that deserves respect. Why would I use anyone else's definition when mine has served me well for nearly half a century?

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Stop and take a look around, everyone here probably falls into a category that doesn't deserve respect in someone's mind, does that mean they don't deserve respect? Or does it mean we should try to be a little more open minded and try to treat everyone with at least a modicum of respect.



Nope. We should treat everyone with COURTESY in the beginning, and only for as long as they are courteous in return. Respect should be earned, or it become valueless. Would you rather be given a rare gold coin or a handful of cheap, common glitter?




KnightofMists -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 10:06:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles

As I have often said; common courtesy, common decency and common sense aren't so common any more. ;-)


Those things are not showing of respect! Maybe your bar lower in what respect is.



KnightofMists -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 10:09:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: myotherself

I'm with you there, KoM. I am courteous to everyone unless they show they don't deserve it and I respect those who have earned my respect.

Slapping a 'dominant' badge on their big, bad selves does not make someone a dominant, nor does it afford them any level of extra courtesy than any other person deserves. It certainly does not mean they are to be respected without having earned it.




What I bold says it all on this issue.... Oh will add... Cheaply given is cheaply valued in my world. Respect is not something I give on the cheap. But some do ... And well... It's not something that I value.



NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 10:42:26 AM)



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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir
And that would make me laugh even more. I'm only submissive to one man not every desktop dominant who thinks because he clicked a box on the internet that he is entitled to anything, so anyone who comments on my "submissive attitude" doesn't know me nor do they have the right to "teach" me about my attitude.

What a fine "submissive attitude", deciding for yourself to disrespect others. ;-)


Milesnmiles,

I think you are WAY too full of yourself. Why should she display a "submissive attitude" toward you or anyone else she is not in a dynamic with? She shouldn't. You are A Dominant, but you are NOT her Dominant.

NBMG



Milesnmiles -> RE: Respect ..... (1/25/2014 10:57:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: myotherself
I'm nearly 50 years old. But I guess age and youth is relative...[8|]
I'm 66, not that means anything . I was just thinking of my youth when I had all the answers and how now, I don't even know all the questions.
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Of course. They are MY definitions of a person that deserves respect. Why would I use anyone else's definition when mine has served me well for nearly half a century?
And that is why I said this; "Stop and take a look around, everyone here probably falls into a category that doesn't deserve respect in someone's mind, does that mean they don't deserve respect? Or does it mean we should try to be a little more open minded and try to treat everyone with at least a modicum of respect."

To show that people often have "definitions" that seem to work but they haven't thought out very well.
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Nope. We should treat everyone with COURTESY in the beginning, and only for as long as they are courteous in return. Respect should be earned, or it become valueless.
I think we view courtesy and respect differently, you feel they should be "earned", where I feel they part of the character of the person, such as "he is always so courteous and respectful". When you let others by their actions "change" who you are then you are submitting to their will.
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Would you rather be given a rare gold coin or a handful of cheap, common glitter?
I do not rate gifts by their value but by the love and sincerity of the giver. No gift would be grander to me than a child with that look of love in it's eyes handing me "a handful of cheap, common glitter".

;-)



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