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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 4:48:25 AM   
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So let me get this straight. If I cut in front of you at Starbucks and you say whoa, I was here first and I say fuck off dude, I am late for a meeting (of course this is something I would never do), that was me being rude to you, a stranger.
I understand this is something you would never do. But this the type of hypothetical situation that I was addressing.

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Do you now perceive that we have a forced relationship or dynamic or do you just shrug and go on with your life?
I realize that it is not the specialized sense of the of words "relationship or dynamic" that is used in the BDSM community but yes, I feel any contact between two people has the feel of a relationship or dynamic, no matter how brief. Sure I shrug it off and go on with my life. But there is no way of knowing if later in the day or tomorrow you may meet again, say in a business situation and be together for longer periods of time, thus making a longer relationship that started with rudeness.

I have a rather unique way of looking at who people are. I view everyone I encounter as a blank canvas and what they do and say is them making a painting of who they are for me on that canvas. I've heard people say, that's not like them but I never say that, because that is just another stroke on their canvas for me, giving me a better picture of who they are. If someone tells me something about someone else I generally do not apply that to the other person but think that this is the kind of thing this person will say about someone else.

So if the the situation that you described happened to me, that will always be the picture I have of that person, at least until we meet again.

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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 5:10:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1
So let me get this straight. If I cut in front of you at Starbucks and you say whoa, I was here first and I say fuck off dude, I am late for a meeting (of course this is something I would never do), that was me being rude to you, a stranger.
I understand this is something you would never do. But this the type of hypothetical situation that I was addressing.

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Do you now perceive that we have a forced relationship or dynamic or do you just shrug and go on with your life?
I realize that it is not the specialized sense of the of words "relationship or dynamic" that is used in the BDSM community but yes, I feel any contact between two people has the feel of a relationship or dynamic, no matter how brief. Sure I shrug it off and go on with my life. But there is no way of knowing if later in the day or tomorrow you may meet again, say in a business situation and be together for longer periods of time, thus making a longer relationship that started with rudeness.

I have a rather unique way of looking at who people are. I view everyone I encounter as a blank canvas and what they do and say is them making a painting of who they are for me on that canvas. I've heard people say, that's not like them but I never say that, because that is just another stroke on their canvas for me, giving me a better picture of who they are. If someone tells me something about someone else I generally do not apply that to the other person but think that this is the kind of thing this person will say about someone else.

So if the the situation that you described happened to me, that will always be the picture I have of that person, at least until we meet again.



But in rebuking people for their perceived rude behavior, you are trying to change their canvas.

And while the example sexyred1 gave was clear, what might be considered to be rude to one person isn't to another.
Your standards of rude are your standards of rude.
Someone else may have different standards.
Your perceptions are shaped from a lifetime of interactions and experiences and so what you perceive as rude isn't going to be seen the same way by everybody.


I observed a situation last week in which 2 people I have a high regard for had an interaction and one of them was very offended by the other's "very rude" behavior.
The only issue was that I did not see the behavior as rude at all.
It was assertive and the other person saw it as aggressive... and rude.

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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 5:23:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles


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But I will discipline as necessary for misconduct and especially for anyone that serves me and does not respect themselves.


Until someone is yours, you don't have the right to discipline anyone. If someone thought I disrespected them and tried to discipline me when we weren't in a dynamic, I would laugh at them.
Even if a person is not in a "dynamic" with you, that does not give you the "right" to disrespect someone. So if you disrespect someone, whether in a "dynamic" or not, you can expect some discipline.

Just a note of explanation, discipline means teach, which could be as simple as saying; "Looks like you could use some work on controlling your speech" or "It seems you could use some work on your submissive attitude".




And that would make me laugh even more. I'm only submissive to one man not every desktop dominant who thinks because he clicked a box on the internet that he is entitled to anything, so anyone who comments on my "submissive attitude" doesn't know me nor do they have the right to "teach" me about my attitude.
What a fine "submissive attitude", deciding for yourself to disrespect others. ;-)



I respectfully disagree.



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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 8:52:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles


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But I will discipline as necessary for misconduct and especially for anyone that serves me and does not respect themselves.


Until someone is yours, you don't have the right to discipline anyone. If someone thought I disrespected them and tried to discipline me when we weren't in a dynamic, I would laugh at them.
Even if a person is not in a "dynamic" with you, that does not give you the "right" to disrespect someone. So if you disrespect someone, whether in a "dynamic" or not, you can expect some discipline.

Just a note of explanation, discipline means teach, which could be as simple as saying; "Looks like you could use some work on controlling your speech" or "It seems you could use some work on your submissive attitude".




And that would make me laugh even more. I'm only submissive to one man not every desktop dominant who thinks because he clicked a box on the internet that he is entitled to anything, so anyone who comments on my "submissive attitude" doesn't know me nor do they have the right to "teach" me about my attitude.
What a fine "submissive attitude", deciding for yourself to disrespect others. ;-)



Again, if she isn't your submissive, it really isn't your place to judge her submission.
She may not exhibit behavior that is pleasing to you, but she doesn't have to please you.

She is only accountable to herself and those she chooses to make herself accountable to them.

I don't see setting boundaries and limits to be rude btw.
I do see over-stepping to be potentially rude.

We aren't talking about an encounter at Starbucks because you wouldn't be disciplining women unknown to you there on their "submissive attitudes".
If it isn't okay at public venues then I don't see it as being okay anywhere: just because someone has some sort of self-identification on the s-side of the kneel shouldn't change how you relate to them, if they are not in a dynamic with you.
And your assertion that someone who was rude to you has forced a dynamic onto you is silly.
If someone is considerate, due you feel they have forced themselves onto you as well?


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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 10:22:35 AM   
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But in rebuking people for their perceived rude behavior, you are trying to change their canvas.
No. It might change what they put on the canvas in the future but it will not change what is on the canvas now.
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And while the example sexyred1 gave was clear, what might be considered to be rude to one person isn't to another.
Your standards of rude are your standards of rude.
Someone else may have different standards.
Your perceptions are shaped from a lifetime of interactions and experiences and so what you perceive as rude isn't going to be seen the same way by everybody.
Yes but usually there is a universal baseline that people go by and the individual differences are small.
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I observed a situation last week in which 2 people I have a high regard for had an interaction and one of them was very offended by the other's "very rude" behavior.
The only issue was that I did not see the behavior as rude at all.
It was assertive and the other person saw it as aggressive... and rude.
Yes that can happen.

Myself, if the example sexyred1 gave happened and I was the only one in line, while I would consider it rude, I would probably let it slide. If I was one of several in line I would speak up, not for myself only but for all those who might be similarly offended by the rude conduct.

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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 10:26:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles


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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

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But I will discipline as necessary for misconduct and especially for anyone that serves me and does not respect themselves.


Until someone is yours, you don't have the right to discipline anyone. If someone thought I disrespected them and tried to discipline me when we weren't in a dynamic, I would laugh at them.
Even if a person is not in a "dynamic" with you, that does not give you the "right" to disrespect someone. So if you disrespect someone, whether in a "dynamic" or not, you can expect some discipline.

Just a note of explanation, discipline means teach, which could be as simple as saying; "Looks like you could use some work on controlling your speech" or "It seems you could use some work on your submissive attitude".




And that would make me laugh even more. I'm only submissive to one man not every desktop dominant who thinks because he clicked a box on the internet that he is entitled to anything, so anyone who comments on my "submissive attitude" doesn't know me nor do they have the right to "teach" me about my attitude.
What a fine "submissive attitude", deciding for yourself to disrespect others. ;-)



I respectfully disagree.




I don't ever expect everyone to agree with me, that is something that I have learned is the nature of life but I do appreciate you being respectful when you did so.
;-)

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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 11:10:37 AM   
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Again, if she isn't your submissive, it really isn't your place to judge her submission.
She may not exhibit behavior that is pleasing to you, but she doesn't have to please you.
Respectfully, get over it. If someone is in a "relationship or dynamic" with someone, that in no way allows that sub to treat everyone else like dirt.
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She is only accountable to herself and those she chooses to make herself accountable to them.
And if she accosts someone then she is accountable for her actions.
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I don't see setting boundaries and limits to be rude btw.
I don't believe I ever said it was.
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I do see over-stepping to be potentially rude.
Over stepping what?
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We aren't talking about an encounter at Starbucks because you wouldn't be disciplining women unknown to you there on their "submissive attitudes".
Okay let's go there. We are at a gathering, there still could be women that are unknown to me and I would have no knowledge of whether she was in a "relationship or dynamic", but many times you can tell if she is a Dom or Sub. If she starts being rude and a nuisance I would say something and if I believe she was a sub, I very well might tell her to work on her subjection.
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If it isn't okay at public venues then I don't see it as being okay anywhere: just because someone has some sort of self-identification on the s-side of the kneel shouldn't change how you relate to them, if they are not in a dynamic with you.
If someone is being rude and a nuisance, it doesn't matter whether it is at a "public venue" or not or what side of the kneel they are on or even if they have never even heard of BDSM, something needs to be said.
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And your assertion that someone who was rude to you has forced a dynamic onto you is silly.
You have the right to your opinion but without some sort of explanation, your saying; it "is silly" is meaningless to me. I have already said; "I feel any contact between two people has the feel of a relationship or dynamic, no matter how brief."
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If someone is considerate, do you feel they have forced themselves onto you as well?
Well honestly, I tend to use "forced" for things I didn't want and are generally unpleasant, things that are pleasant and welcomed don't have to be "forced" because I gratefully accept them, even if I didn't know they were coming.
;-)

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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 11:27:57 AM   
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The OP didn't mention anything about disciplining outside of the dynamic, I'm not sure why you'd assume that, Searching.

In any case I agree Drake, mutual respect is very important. Welcome to the discussion side. I look forward to your contributions.






He used the word "especially" which led me to believe that he would attempt to discipline outside the dynamic. If I'm wrong, I apologize for the misinterpretation.



Actually I found the interpretation to be rather appropriate.



Yes. So, we now all agree that a sign of respect to those who are not submissive to you is that you cannot discipline them unless you want to walk away with a handprint on your face or worse.

It is great to be the Master but sucks to be you should you attempt to discipline those you never will master until you treat them with respect.

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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 11:52:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ
Again, if she isn't your submissive, it really isn't your place to judge her submission.
She may not exhibit behavior that is pleasing to you, but she doesn't have to please you.
Respectfully, get over it. If someone is in a "relationship or dynamic" with someone, that in no way allows that sub to treat everyone else like dirt.

But equally well, if your behaviour is considered rude, she has every right to slap you round the face with a wet fish - whether she is sub or Domme.
If you are not in a dynamic with someone, general courtesy and consideration should be the norm.

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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles
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She is only accountable to herself and those she chooses to make herself accountable to them.
And if she accosts someone then she is accountable for her actions.
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I don't see setting boundaries and limits to be rude btw.
I don't believe I ever said it was.
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I do see over-stepping to be potentially rude.
Over stepping what?

Overstepping your boundaries.
You seem to be of the opinion that because she is sub, you have the right to chastise her in some way regardless.
Got news for you buddy - that's called being rude.

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We aren't talking about an encounter at Starbucks because you wouldn't be disciplining women unknown to you there on their "submissive attitudes".
Okay let's go there. We are at a gathering, there still could be women that are unknown to me and I would have no knowledge of whether she was in a "relationship or dynamic", but many times you can tell if she is a Dom or Sub. If she starts being rude and a nuisance I would say something and if I believe she was a sub, I very well might tell her to work on her subjection.

I bsolutely disagree with your premise!
Unles someone actually tells you, there is no way on this earth that you can tell if someone is Dom or sub. There are many people that within their workplace, they would be considered headstrong and very very Dom. Yet once they get home, they are very very sub to the person/people they relate to.
So your assumption that you can tell is very very wrong.
And as I said earlier, just because you think someone is sub doesn't give you the right to treat them any differently.
That is the most superscilious attitude I have come across in a long time.

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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles
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If it isn't okay at public venues then I don't see it as being okay anywhere: just because someone has some sort of self-identification on the s-side of the kneel shouldn't change how you relate to them, if they are not in a dynamic with you.
If someone is being rude and a nuisance, it doesn't matter whether it is at a "public venue" or not or what side of the kneel they are on or even if they have never even heard of BDSM, something needs to be said.
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And your assertion that someone who was rude to you has forced a dynamic onto you is silly.
You have the right to your opinion but without some sort of explanation, your saying; it "is silly" is meaningless to me. I have already said; "I feel any contact between two people has the feel of a relationship or dynamic, no matter how brief."

Just this bit -
"I feel any contact between two people has the feel of a relationship or dynamic, no matter how brief."
This is just plain stupid and will eventually get you put on your ass for being such an asshat.
Seriously dude, that is one helluva stupid way to live your life.
And I for one, if I ever got the lash of your tongue because you thought that I was a sub, I would punch your lights out to teach you some common respect.
(Incidentally, if you saw myself and OH out in the street, you'd think she was the Domme).

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If someone is considerate, do you feel they have forced themselves onto you as well?
Well honestly, I tend to use "forced" for things I didn't want and are generally unpleasant, things that are pleasant and welcomed don't have to be "forced" because I gratefully accept them, even if I didn't know they were coming.
;-)

Words fail me.
How can someone have lived for sooo long and not get the shit kicked out of them every day for being so utterly stupid is beyond me.

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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 12:23:17 PM   
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Okay let's go there. We are at a gathering, there still could be women that are unknown to me and I would have no knowledge of whether she was in a "relationship or dynamic", but many times you can tell if she is a Dom or Sub. If she starts being rude and a nuisance I would say something and if I believe she was a sub, I very well might tell her to work on her subjection.



And you seem to be under the delusion that she cares what you think of her subjection in the first place. If she has already been rude to you, she has already decided that you are not worthy of her submission. She has written you off.

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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 12:48:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Freedomwarf1....I agree with every thing! I am an incredibly dominate woman! I make more money then my dom,
I work in a high stress, high profile job, and regularly am told that my dominate personality intimidates people and I am submissive in my relationship.
I'm glad you said what I was thinking the whole time I was reading this. My dom would encourage me to laugh at someone who thought they could "punish" me in anyway.
I have allowed one man and one man only to have that role....No one else. Furthermore, there is no way to know who is sub or dom.
Until 3 months ago I didn't even know I was sub. (side not: Super glad I figured that out) :) These relationships are about trust.
I am submissive to my dom because I trust him....that is only for him and not some random jerk at Starbucks.

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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 1:07:41 PM   
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Freedomwarf1....I agree with every thing! I am an incredibly dominate woman! I make more money then my dom,

The first lesson to learn about being a Dominant person, is to learn the difference between nouns and verbs etc.
Using the wrong words can make you lose face and become a laughing stock.
Losing your credibility is even worse than losing face and incredibly difficult to regain.

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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 3:58:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will echo what others have said. You cannot tell who is Dominant or submissive by looking or even by actions.

And I will also say that Milesnmiles perspective on what constitutes a relationship with him, is rather scary and I honestly never heard anyone fabricate a perceived relationship unless they were a stalker.

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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 5:15:43 PM   
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Seriously. M n m doesn't seem to realize that every woman on this site can read his forum posts and will all be shocked by his belief that checking the submissive box means they are obligated to submit to him and his way of saying and doing things.

Great way not to make friends and attract women, dude.

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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 5:26:46 PM   
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But equally well, if your behaviour is considered rude, she has every right to slap you round the face with a wet fish - whether she is sub or Domme.
Well that's a given. I was reading one of the threads about "bad" Doms, and kept thinking people do that? I'm going to have to come up with another word for Dom.
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If you are not in a dynamic with someone, general courtesy and consideration should be the norm.
That's kind of what I've been trying to say all along but to me that should be the norm whether in a dynamic or not.
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Overstepping your boundaries.
You seem to be of the opinion that because she is sub, you have the right to chastise her in some way regardless.
No, I'm of the opinion that if someone is being rude and a nuisance, whether they be sub, Dom/me or just plain vanilla, someone should chastise them.
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Got news for you buddy - that's called being rude.
I got news for you, that's not being rude, that's being an adult.
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I absolutely disagree with your premise!
My "premise" is not whether I can tell a Dom from a sub. My premise is that if a person is being rude and a nuisance, whether they be sub, Dom/me or just plain vanilla, someone should chastise them.
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Unless someone actually tells you, there is no way on this earth that you can tell if someone is Dom or sub. There are many people that within their workplace, they would be considered headstrong and very very Dom. Yet once they get home, they are very very sub to the person/people they relate to.
So your assumption that you can tell is very very wrong.
The Hypothetical situation in this case is not at the work place, on the street or even a Starbucks, it is at a "gathering" and at a "gathering" people sometimes relax bit and show their inner selves for all to see, even then I said if I could tell she thought of herself as a sub, I might use that to "chastise" her but then again I may say or do something else.
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And as I said earlier, just because you think someone is sub doesn't give you the right to treat them any differently.
And as I've said over and over again, I don't treat people differently because they are a Sub, I treat people differently because they are different people.
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That is the most superscilious attitude I have come across in a long time.
If you are going to use the word supercilious, at least use spell check.
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Just this bit -
"I feel any contact between two people has the feel of a relationship or dynamic, no matter how brief."
This is just plain stupid and will eventually get you put on your ass for being such an asshat.
Perhaps you should least try to understand what someone is saying, instead of assuming you already know and getting your life in a twist looking for a fight.
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Seriously dude, that is one helluva stupid way to live your life.
Of course that is your opinion and you have a right to it but I feel as the saying is; a stranger is just a person I haven't met yet, if you think those chance encounters are meaningless and discard them that is your loss.
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And I for one, if I ever got the lash of your tongue because you thought that I was a sub, I would punch your lights out to teach you some common respect.
Are you listening? Nobody gets the "lash" of my tongue because I thought they were a Sub, ever. But if someone is being rude and a nuisance, whether they be sub, Dom/me or just plain vanilla, they are the ones that get the "lash" of my tongue.
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(Incidentally, if you saw myself and OH out in the street, you'd think she was the Domme).
Quite frankly, I don't think in terms of BDSM when I'm on the street, even if you were dressed in BDSM gear I would probably think Goth, Punk or maybe Bikers. Just saying...
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Words fail me.
How can someone have lived for sooo long and not get the shit kicked out of them every day for being so utterly stupid is beyond me.
I guess I wouldn't be too far off to assume you have a anger problem, maybe you should see someone about that.
;-)

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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 5:43:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't even ask why, I'm sticking my big toe in. I do NOT need another adult to correct my behavior should he think I've behaved in a rude manner. Or what's perceived as rude.

Now it may just be me, but I've noticed that all of this back and forth is addressed as a male correcting women. Are men not to be corrected also???

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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 5:49:21 PM   
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And you seem to be under the delusion that she cares what you think of her subjection in the first place. If she has already been rude to you, she has already decided that you are not worthy of her submission. She has written you off.
Delusion? I'm sorry is there someone who actually reading this? This is a person who is being rude and a nuisance, I could care less what she thinks of me. She is being rude and a nuisance, what are you going to do about? Pretend it is not happening? Am I the only one here that is willing to do something about someone who is rude and a nuisance?

Are you people actually saying that if a person is in a "relationship or dynamic" then she can dominate a whole room of people by being rude and a nuisance and not one of you would say anything?


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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 6:02:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you came up to me somewhere, anywhere and chastised me for being what YOU consider rude, I would make sure that the entire room knew of YOUR rudeness and the size of your ego for thinking you know better than everyone else.

Instead here's a new approach for ya dude....just walk away. Don't like what you see or hear? Leave the room or premise. Simple. Why ruin it for everyone else who are adults and don't have an ego the size of a dump truck?


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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 6:06:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1
I will echo what others have said. You cannot tell who is Dominant or submissive by looking or even by actions.
Really? At BDSM "gathering" nobody has any clue about who might be Dominant or submissive? Maybe you guys should wear name tags, when you get together, so you can tell yourselves apart.
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And I will also say that Milesnmiles perspective on what constitutes a relationship with him, is rather scary and I honestly never heard anyone fabricate a perceived relationship unless they were a stalker.
Fabricate? How is an actual encounter with someone a fabrication? As I have already pointed out I don't add or subtract from it unless I meet that person again. But you seem to want dismiss about 90 percent of all the people you meet, go right ahead, I'm not stopping you.
;-)

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RE: Respect ..... - 1/29/2014 6:16:52 PM   
Milesnmiles


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP
If it walks like a duck ...
Seriously. M n m doesn't seem to realize that every woman on this site can read his forum posts and will all be shocked by his belief that checking the submissive box means they are obligated to submit to him and his way of saying and doing things.
Have you had your reading comprehension checked lately? Not once and I'll repeat that for you, not once, I have said or even implied that anyone, for any reason, is "obligated to submit to me and my way of saying and doing things". Since your reading comprehension seems low would you like be to repeat it for you?

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Great way not to make friends and attract women, dude.
If that was what I was doing, I would agree with you but since it's not, I don't.
;-)

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