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RE: The dreaded 30 magazine clip - 1/22/2014 10:28:00 PM   
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I looked up the .12 gauge shotguns and there were 5 sites that even had pictures of them.



I Googled up 8 lb cannon, and it seems that was Napoleon's artillery of choice - about a 106mm in today's calculations.

Of course, we do have the .410 guage, which throws a wrench into the process, and kicks the whole question of where a .12 guage would be into a good argument topic, over cold beer on a hot afternoon.

Go back to asshat in the original video, and we are dealing with someone who doesn't know the difference between a cartridge and a caliber

That would make it about a forth the size of a .410 couldn't possibly fire anything bigger than no 8 shot, that would
likely be the slugs.
or a recoilless rifle? kinda hard to lug around.
In light of the .410 which is, of course the barrel diameter and thus actually a caliber not a guage, I have to withdraw my previous comment to Master Caneman

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RE: The dreaded 30 magazine clip - 1/22/2014 10:44:59 PM   
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That would make it about a forth the size of a .410 couldn't possibly fire anything bigger than no 8 shot, that would



I think a BB gun is about a .17 caliber. I'm wondering what common item would even be used to get a sense of scale on a .12.

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RE: The dreaded 30 magazine clip - 1/23/2014 1:38:44 AM   
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RE: The dreaded 30 magazine clip - 1/23/2014 2:42:43 AM   
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I'm very happy to wait for any backing up of baseless, off topic, thread derailing personal accusations with some real world logic and facts.

Not so happy about holding my breath for weeks and weeks though.



I was merely pointing out that some people have double standards.

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RE: The dreaded 30 magazine clip - 1/23/2014 6:28:43 AM   
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RE: The dreaded 30 magazine clip - 1/23/2014 8:57:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
I looked up the .12 gauge shotguns and there were 5 sites that even had pictures of them.



I Googled up 8 lb cannon, and it seems that was Napoleon's artillery of choice - about a 106mm in today's calculations.

Of course, we do have the .410 guage, which throws a wrench into the process, and kicks the whole question of where a .12 guage would be into a good argument topic, over cold beer on a hot afternoon.

Go back to asshat in the original video, and we are dealing with someone who doesn't know the difference between a cartridge and a caliber

That would make it about a forth the size of a .410 couldn't possibly fire anything bigger than no 8 shot, that would
likely be the slugs.
or a recoilless rifle? kinda hard to lug around.
In light of the .410 which is, of course the barrel diameter and thus actually a caliber not a guage, I have to withdraw my previous comment to Master Caneman



The .410 used to called 36 gauge, and I was wrong in my definition of shotgun gauges before. From the Wikipedia...

"The gauge of a firearm is a unit of measurement used to express the diameter of the barrel. Gauge is determined from the weight of a solid sphere of lead that will fit the bore of the firearm, and is expressed as the multiplicative inverse of the sphere's weight as a fraction of a pound (e.g., a 1⁄12th pound ball fits a 12-gauge bore). Thus there are twelve 12-gauge balls per pound (etc.). The term is related to the measurement of cannon, which were also measured by the weight of their iron round shot; an 8 pounder would fire an 8 lb (3.6 kg) spherical cast iron ball and had a bore diameter of about 91 mm (3.6 in)."

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RE: The dreaded 30 magazine clip - 1/23/2014 9:53:37 AM   
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RE: The dreaded 30 magazine clip - 1/23/2014 9:56:50 AM   
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I'm wondering what common item would even be used to get a sense of scale on a .12.


A football

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RE: The dreaded 30 magazine clip - 1/24/2014 8:45:50 AM   
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 A .12 would be about (in bore) the size of #5 birdshot.



Back in the day, wasn't there an air pistol that fired shot of that size? I seem to recall reading an article about it.

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RE: The dreaded 30 magazine clip - 1/24/2014 5:55:48 PM   
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There were always exotic air rifles in other calibers, as well as ammo shaped like darts and so forth.



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 A .12 would be about (in bore) the size of #5 birdshot.



Back in the day, wasn't there an air pistol that fired shot of that size? I seem to recall reading an article about it.



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