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The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 8:12:23 AM   
Hillwilliam


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First, there is good evidence of a genetic component to sexual preference.
Why are these alleles passed down and some even say increasing?
It's quite simple. For centuries, religious and social persecution forced gays and lesbians into heterosexual relationships. They may have been utterly miserable but these relationships frequently produced children. These children would typically be straight but would carry the genetic component.

By fighting against gay marriage, the Religious extremists are unthinkingly (how unusual) promoting the reproduction and even increase of these alleles.

Religious extremists, if you want same sex behavior to decrease over time, then you need to support same sex marriage.
Allow these people to marry the one they love.
Rejoice in their happiness.
What they do or don't do in the bedroom is no one's business but theirs.
Love the sinner and, if you must, only hate the sin.
Remember, same sex relationships don't produce biological children.

Give these people the same rights, responsibilities and wishes for happiness that you give your heterosexual friends.

Your life and spirit will be richer for it and in a few dozen generations, maybe the behavior you hate will decrease.

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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 8:35:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		There`s a red state,I forget which one,where their nutters say they would rather end all marriages ,all together, rather then allow gays to marry.

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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 8:41:00 AM   
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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 12:26:37 PM   
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There`s a red state,I forget which one,where their nutters say they would rather end all marriages ,all together, rather then allow gays to marry.


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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 1:20:02 PM   
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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 1:23:39 PM   
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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 1:29:22 PM   
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By fighting against gay marriage, the Religious extremists are unthinkingly (how unusual) promoting the reproduction and even increase of these alleles.
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Ha! My go to line for homophobes is, "at the rate gay and lesbian couples reproduce, they will take over the world in exactly seven minutes!"

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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 1:31:56 PM   
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Would never happen, the religious right is WAAAYYY to hateful to even consider that, even if it does work in the long run (even though I doubt it would)

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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 1:34:04 PM   
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What's the US Far Right's position on humping animals? Come to think of it, I don't even know what the Bible's position is on this.

Interesting. If the Bible's not proscribed it, why don't people get on with it? I mean, think of all those pure white fluffy lambs in spring, with their saucy come-hither eyes and pert buttocks . . . .

Sorry, my mind's wandering. That always happens when I'm trying to do my tax returns.

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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 1:56:37 PM   
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the grey states are where it isnt illegal and the pale yellow states are where its a misdemeanor



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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 1:59:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't see one genetic or scholarly study to suggest the original premise of this post. None are cited, nor do any credible such studies actually exist. There are over 70,000 genes and cyto-genes; we've not touched on a lot. To purport that there is evidence at all of something that may or may not have been recently mapped or discovered could affect human behavior such as sexuality is premature.

That said, why does science even have to be included in the discussion? I think people should just let people have their own lives and beliefs given that they keep them to themselves. The Abrahamic religions all condemn homosexual behavior, but people have adapted a more loose translation and application in many sects. Can you really force someone on the far right to accept your way of life and beliefs while persecuting their belief system?

Frankly, the problem always seems to be that human beings aren't okay with being "content". Pride is the same beast it has always been, and in many colors and shapes: patriotism, gays and lesbians, black pride, white supremacy... etc etc. We aren't okay as a species just being, we have to be being something of great significance. It's our own arrogance that causes these issues to arise on all fronts.

Just be okay with being.

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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 2:17:03 PM   
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genetic component


Is this proven?

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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 3:09:31 PM   
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilia_and_the_law_in_the_United_States

the grey states are where it isnt illegal and the pale yellow states are where its a misdemeanor



Legality of Zoophilia in the United States
Red - Zoophilia is a felony
Orange - Zoophilia is a felony and a misdemeanor
Yellow = Zoophilia is a misdemeanor
Grey - Zoophilia legal

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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 3:32:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hill ...if for some reason if became against the law for you to marry a woman... would you find a nice young man to fuck?

Somehow I think not...Truly gay men want nothing to do with women just as you want nothing to do with men...so your idea would not work.

Now ...there are the in-betweens... the bi's... Hell they would be and are happy to have a woman...and sneak a guy on the side without marriage...so again it would not work... Even if there were a inherited factor to gayness.

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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 3:52:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		You've missed his point, which is "same sex relationships don't produce biological children" - so let them marry and they won't pass down their alleles.

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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 4:19:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Hang with me on this one, OK?

First, there is good evidence of a genetic component to sexual preference.
Why are these alleles passed down and some even say increasing?
It's quite simple. For centuries, religious and social persecution forced gays and lesbians into heterosexual relationships. They may have been utterly miserable but these relationships frequently produced children. These children would typically be straight but would carry the genetic component.

By fighting against gay marriage, the Religious extremists are unthinkingly (how unusual) promoting the reproduction and even increase of these alleles.

Religious extremists, if you want same sex behavior to decrease over time, then you need to support same sex marriage.
Allow these people to marry the one they love.
Rejoice in their happiness.
What they do or don't do in the bedroom is no one's business but theirs.
Love the sinner and, if you must, only hate the sin.
Remember, same sex relationships don't produce biological children.

Give these people the same rights, responsibilities and wishes for happiness that you give your heterosexual friends.

Your life and spirit will be richer for it and in a few dozen generations, maybe the behavior you hate will decrease.


First of all....thanks for the new woid...never heard of an allele before.

Second...yes...of course...absolutely.

Third...why the FUCK would you think the religious right would think you're even remotely sane?

Fourth....I just discovered that using my Bettie Page coasters, face up, is a really bad move.

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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 4:21:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

You've missed his point, which is "same sex relationships don't produce biological children" - so let them marry and they won't pass down their alleles.


I subscribe to the Groucho Marx theory which is...."any club that would have me as a member is already suspect".

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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 4:22:33 PM   
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What's the US Far Right's position on humping animals? Come to think of it, I don't even know what the Bible's position is on this.


Exodus 22:19: “Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal is to be put to death.

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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 4:23:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Hillwilliam for Pope!


Y'all heard recently about that nun that got pregnant...named the boy after the Pope...."Francis"?

How long has he been Pope?

(Hmmmmm?)

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RE: The Religious Right should support gay marriage - 1/28/2014 4:24:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


By fighting against gay marriage, the Religious extremists are unthinkingly (how unusual) promoting the reproduction and even increase of these alleles.
.


Ha! My go to line for homophobes is, "at the rate gay and lesbian couples reproduce, they will take over the world in exactly seven minutes!"

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Or.....10 billion years. (Ergo, the punchline).

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