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nero101 -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 5:55:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: shiftyw

1) paragraphs
2) Too sexual...way too sexual.
3) Also, this is not original. I get messages like this DAILY. On here AND okc. I find it a huge turn off, personally. I feel it has a thin veil of "sensual" and I get creeped out by someone so sexually explicit, when it wasn't invited. You say you do everything to make your partner feel safe, but this level of description, especially when it wasn't asked for, can make someone feel unsafe with you.
4) While I like being called a fuck toy- personally, I prefer that to come later when I've decided to engage with someone, not right from jump street.


i would prefer you got a clue and not come across absolutely and completely condecending. this is a bdsm forum, in my experience not many GIRLS mind being called sl*t or wh**e never mind girl.

i dont really need a mistresses point of view on this but thanks anyway




nero101 -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 5:56:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bellechat

dude, you asked for our thoughts, we are just giving them. dont get all uppity just because we arent falling at your feet asking to worship you.


ok, how exactly am i getting all uppity?





littlewonder -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 6:43:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: nero101

i would prefer you got a clue and not come across absolutely and completely condecending. this is a bdsm forum, in my experience not many GIRLS mind being called sl*t or wh**e never mind girl.

i dont really need a mistresses point of view on this but thanks anyway



They only like it when they are called that by the person they are with, not anyone else. Stop reading porn.




MistressDarkArt -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 7:03:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: nero101


quote:

ORIGINAL: shiftyw
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4) While I like being called a fuck toy- personally, I prefer that to come later when I've decided to engage with someone, not right from jump street.


i would prefer you got a clue and not come across absolutely and completely condecending. this is a bdsm forum, in my experience not many GIRLS mind being called sl*t or wh**e never mind girl.

i dont really need a mistresses point of view on this but thanks anyway



Nero, again with the 'girls'...and you never did answer my question about whether your respondents were actual women and not scammers, finducks, or professionals who wouldn't care if you told them the sky is green in Esperanto and Swahili...backwards. You are so blowing it; shiftyw is a female submissive. Way to go, insulting and offending your target audience. [8|]

I believe the point she is trying to get across is: unless and until you establish a consensual relationship with a woman and thereby understand her preferences, sending out notes or making posts calling them anything other than 'women', 'ladies' or their screen name is unwanted. They don't like it. Shiftyw just told you so. I told you so, too. If you want to get laid, read and heed.

As for not wanting a female dominant's opinion: oi, oi, oi dude, your cluelessness astounds. We are women just like any other women and it's women you want to diddle, no? In case you missed reading the TOS you agreed to abide by, anyone can post anywhere. If a transgender bisexual switch into tap dancing and beanie baby collecting wants to add to the discussion, that person does not need your permission to do so.

You are getting valuable advice and information here. Acting like a tool just pisses people off, and they won't want to help any more. Just...trust me on this. I really do have your best interests at heart.

Also, upon reading of your 'experience', I'll tell you right now that with very few exceptions, women will read your description of what you did with someone else, then shut down right then and there. They will NOT put themselves in that imaginary woman's place. They'll likely think, 'what kind of jack-knob would post his private smack all over the web? That means he'll do it to me, too.'

Perhaps getting off the computer and out into your community would be more beneficial in finding what you seek; you're making too much of a mess here and your posts will remain in perpetuity. That means forever, if you weren't sure. All any potential partner would have to do is click the 'forum posts' button on your profile to see who she's dealing with, then it'll be game over. If I wanted to succeed after a debacle like this, I'd delete my profile and start completely over while incorporating all the new-found knowledge so generously given by people who want the best for you.




ARIES83 -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 7:03:38 PM)

Nero,
You really need to use paragraphs, because 99% of people will not try to read a wall of text like that.




tiggerspoohbear -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 7:08:59 PM)

Opie
What opening message are you asking about? I can't find a thing.




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 7:26:48 PM)

There is no conceivable reason that anyone looking at that block of text would read it. No one is that bored.




evesgrden -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 7:34:10 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: nero101

hi girls, not in the habit of copy/pste messages but i wrote this to acknowledge my intent from the getgo, its more detailed than most of its type, would love to hear your opinions on it



You're trying to convey how great you are making a woman cum hoping this will make women interested in you as a guy who likes to service women while they're being restrained.


Good luck with that. Women want compatibility in addition to chemistry. Doesn't matter whether they're vanilla or kinky, dominant or submissive.


I'm afraid your opening message does nothing to make someone think "wow... this may be someone worth getting to know".

Skills as a lover can be taught, but you've not provided any reason for someone to first meet you for a coffee and no one will be getting into your bed without that part first.







SeekingTrinity -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 7:38:25 PM)

~FRing it~

Reading this thread reminds me of someone showing up at an emergency room begging for help because they are dying, then bitching because people actually helped them [8|]

It doesn't make sense to ask people what they think if the response to said solicited opinions is a throw oneself on the floor kicking and screaming tantrum.




VideoAdminRho -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 7:43:09 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: nero101


i dont really need a mistresses point of view on this but thanks anyway



And this is a reminder that anyone is welcome to post anywhere, as long as they do not violate ToS or the forum guidelines.




MisterP61 -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 7:50:19 PM)

FR

I am shaking My head reading the replies (sorry OP, without the paragraphs I refuse to try to determine where one thought ends and a new one begins), but you have people telling what they think of your opening message and then getting all pissed when they do. Why didn't you just say what do you think of my opening message? But don't reply if you are going to tell me you don't like it.

And FYI, insulting the people here will win you very fast ignores and really, no one will take you seriously any more. There are plenty of trolls on the net. Try being someone who can accept everyone has different views and though they don't coincide with yours are just as valid.




shiftyw -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 7:51:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: nero101


quote:

ORIGINAL: shiftyw

1) paragraphs
2) Too sexual...way too sexual.
3) Also, this is not original. I get messages like this DAILY. On here AND okc. I find it a huge turn off, personally. I feel it has a thin veil of "sensual" and I get creeped out by someone so sexually explicit, when it wasn't invited. You say you do everything to make your partner feel safe, but this level of description, especially when it wasn't asked for, can make someone feel unsafe with you.
4) While I like being called a fuck toy- personally, I prefer that to come later when I've decided to engage with someone, not right from jump street.


i would prefer you got a clue and not come across absolutely and completely condecending. this is a bdsm forum, in my experience not many GIRLS mind being called sl*t or wh**e never mind girl.

i dont really need a mistresses point of view on this but thanks anyway




Well...I identify as a bottom/s type, so that wasn't a mistress POV. I also don't care if you call me a "girl" vs. a "lady"- but not because I'm an s type...if that is what you are trying to imply? Hell, I even sometimes am into Daddy doms.

I specifically said I like being called a fuck toy. Just not upon first contact. You asked my opinion. That is simply that, take it or leave it.

But you're welcome anyways!




MistressDarkArt -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 8:06:18 PM)

Nero, I'd also like to know where in your description of your private 'event', quoting here: "The first thing I do is make sure my partner feels completely safe. I listen carefully to her desires, her concerns, and read between the lines to get a full picture of what turns her on and what fears might make her shut down"...where is her safe signal? Her hands are unusable, she is gagged. She's immobilized. How is she going to let you know something's wrong or she wants/needs to stop?

The way you tell it, not exactly a trust-building exercise...




LafayetteLady -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 9:02:20 PM)

Little boy blue,

Look, if you only sent that to a dozen women whose profiles interested you, its stil a cut and paste job.

It says nothing about you other than you are not a very good writer. It gives no indication you read the WOMAN's profile, since you mention nothing about it your wall o text.

You are basically sending out the same exact email to multiple woman and around here, that's known as spam. Most women will mark it as such and when enough do, you will not be able to send any mail for a period of time.

Further, for your information, it is very rare for any woman here to positively respond to opening emails that call them fucktoys, sluts, whores or any other statements indicative of having already established a D/s relationship. People who identify as submissive don't kneel to every tom, dick, and harry asshole who proclaims themselve dominant. They submit to the one they choose. So like it or not, yes you come off as someone who reads too much porn. Or would you prefer we call it erotica for you? Its still porn.




DarkSteven -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 9:51:19 PM)

Okay, I'm lost. You ask for everyone's opinion, then get angry and defensive when they provide it. If you just tell us what kind of things you want to hear, it would save everyone a lot of fuss.




sexyred1 -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 10:00:01 PM)

OP,

Your writing is boring, same old, same old and not exciting.

You are targeting other men with your attempts at porn.

Everyone told you why women would never reply to this.

I delete every attempt at porn or erotica that clogs up my inbox.

Why? Because I am not interested in the sexual fantasies of strangers.




tiggerspoohbear -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/4/2014 10:03:27 PM)

I would do an instant delete/block. I would have done this when I was single. It's a copy pasta job, it's not personalized to individual female submissives. Some may have responded to it, I don't doubt that. A lot won't, for various reasons.

All I can do is wish you good luck in your search. No disrespect intended, it may take awhile.




stef -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/5/2014 12:06:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: nero101

i would prefer you got a clue

Irony. Well played.




searching4mysir -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/5/2014 4:47:39 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: nero101


quote:

ORIGINAL: shiftyw

1) paragraphs
2) Too sexual...way too sexual.
3) Also, this is not original. I get messages like this DAILY. On here AND okc. I find it a huge turn off, personally. I feel it has a thin veil of "sensual" and I get creeped out by someone so sexually explicit, when it wasn't invited. You say you do everything to make your partner feel safe, but this level of description, especially when it wasn't asked for, can make someone feel unsafe with you.
4) While I like being called a fuck toy- personally, I prefer that to come later when I've decided to engage with someone, not right from jump street.


i would prefer you got a clue and not come across absolutely and completely condecending. this is a bdsm forum, in my experience not many GIRLS mind being called sl*t or wh**e never mind girl.

i dont really need a mistresses point of view on this but thanks anyway




Perhaps by people they already know and care about, but not by strangers.


You would be blocked and deleted if you ever sent that shit to me. We are women FIRST and submissives second.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: what do you think of my opening message? (2/5/2014 5:19:10 AM)

This:


quote:

ORIGINAL: MisterP61

FR

I am shaking My head reading the replies (sorry OP, without the paragraphs I refuse to try to determine where one thought ends and a new one begins), but you have people telling what they think of your opening message and then getting all pissed when they do. Why didn't you just say what do you think of my opening message? But don't reply if you are going to tell me you don't like it.

And FYI, insulting the people here will win you very fast ignores and really, no one will take you seriously any more. There are plenty of trolls on the net. Try being someone who can accept everyone has different views and though they don't coincide with yours are just as valid.






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