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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/6/2014 8:27:43 PM   
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Oh I don't know. I consider myself pretty smart with my share of airhead moments. I know my strength from having climbed my way out of hell and completely changing my life, yet I still have my weaknesses and vulnerabilities.

He was attracted to me, in large part (as he said) because of my outlook on life. I think at times he may have wished I weren't as strong, but I am what I am. But his nature is to want to take care of me, and I had to learn to let him. In doing so, for the first time in my life I don't feel like I HAVE to be strong all the damn time anymore because someone's finally got my back. It's ok to be weak now. :)

I met a woman at a 4 day festival in Oregon a couple years ago, and after an afternoon of chatting she said, "Wow. You have a rare man. He can handle your obvious power. Most fear and turn away from that." That took me by surprise.

I think we all have a balance of strong/weak. The key is finding someone who compliments it.

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/6/2014 10:51:22 PM   
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I have a query, mostly for those who are interested in submitting to female dominants but of course all viewpoints are welcome.

I'm finding a rather strange phenomenon as I'm speaking with (primarily) male submissives on this site, and that is that many of them get very uptight, offended and even rude when I show that I have intelligence and strength of character. This to me seems pretty counterintuitive, since you'd think that you'd want to submit to someone who you respect, admire or perhaps even feel is "better" than you in some way (not claiming to be better than anyone, just throwing ideas out there). I do understand that I have a somewhat abrasive personality and that my brusquness doesn't always translate well over text, but I admit that I still find it very shocking when these men behave like a petulant 5 year old because I dared to show that I actually have a brain. I am never rude or insulting or demeaning, I don't act like a screaming harpy intent on crushing these men beneath my boots (....maybe I should?). Is it because I'm ruining some sort of fantasy? Do submissive men really want a bubble headed bimbo in latex who never challenges them but just screams random insults while brandishing a flogger? Help me out peeps, what am I missing here?


I write for a living and enjoy smart, strong women as a rule. But I only speak for myself, and don't presume to make any sweeping generalizations about males in general. My sense is if you are encountering this issue so much that you feel compelled to start a thread, it may be that you are in some way contributing to the behavior, perhaps by not taking more care with the men you choose to engage with online.

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/6/2014 11:11:52 PM   
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This isn't even so much a domme problem as much as a woman problem in general. Yes a lot of men can't handle a woman that isn't an airhead. It hurts their ego, but honestly, I wouldn't respect a man like that. I don't want a guy who needs me to be weak just so he can feel strong.

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/6/2014 11:45:40 PM   
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Herrchen likes that I am intelligent. I have strong areas and he has complementary areas of strength. I am asked about things in my bailiwick and Herrchen listens to them and uses them to make decisions for us. Since I am Sklavin, He is right always, even if he sometimes...dare I say it...errs. But we roll with it and opt for a different route and carry one. It works for us.

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 6:14:58 AM   
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There are two parts to your query, so I'll approach this from two angles. First is whether you find this to resonate with your predilections:

"I am sapiosexual. I think geeks and nerds are sexy--I often want to rub my clit against their minds." - Kayar Silkenvoice

Definition of Sapiosexual: One who finds intelligence the most sexually attractive feature; behaviour of becoming attracted to or aroused by intelligence and its use.

Additional Information: Sapiosexual is a neologism word (recently constructed word) that has come into common usage;, especially on social networking sites where some people are self-identifying as sapiosexual. Origins: From Latin root sapien, wise or intelligent, and Latin sexualis, relating to the sexes.

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/submission/6304/Sapiosexual

If it does, then this is probably why you have been experiencing difficulty connecting with men. It takes one to know one. Furthermore, this would mean you don't often connect with other women either since the majority of the population are not similarly inclined.

FYI, an earlier term in usage for this phenomenon was "Sapiophilia," which indicates more of a fondness for intelligence, but one which I've always avoided using because I thought it sounded like a perversion!

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

The other thing is that you should be glad these guys are showing their true colors this quickly. Because you don't want every guy out there, you want the one who thinks a smart woman is hot.
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As for Part 2, there are those who are petulant and lack social graces. Don't waste any more of your brain cells on them. There are men who are so insecure that they can't handle a woman outshining them or having a quicker wit than they do. They can conceal their frustration better in real life than when hiding behind the anonymity of being on line.

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 9:46:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MisterP61

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Don't feel bad for us! Most of us will simply WALK away or attempt to get in her panties and leave her as soon as possible.

Dude. Seriously this is the kind of attitude that makes all men look like fucking idiots. Try using I and Me statements, OK?


Actually.... I appreciate comments like his for two reasons...

One... It separates me from guys like him.

Two... It separates woman who believe shit like that and those that just peg it on him!


It's actually a win-win from my perspective

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 11:00:34 AM   
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Go on, KoM,
spin that thing.
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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 12:25:07 PM   
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You seem to suppose guys are enough alike to generalize. But the many differences are what allows you your choice. The solution to the problem seems to be to look the other way.

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 1:07:22 PM   
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Smart women are very good at discerning when a gentleman is intimidated by their mature, capable rock-on, sexy selves.
We just shift our focus to the many intelligent, funny, secure men out there.

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 2:03:17 PM   
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Smart strong women are hot as balls.
Besides, what fun is it conquering a sycophant?
It's so much more fun to watch an intelligent vibrant vivacious woman crawl of her own volition, willingly giving over of self to moi.
Yeah-one's drinking tap water, the other ambrosia

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 2:25:15 PM   
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You are the most attractive woman I've talked to on here.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I find you (and women like you) desirable. Intelligence, strength and confidence are extremely attractive and, really, essential for me.


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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 2:28:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AlphaFemsRule
You are the most attractive woman I've talked to on here.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I find you (and women like you) desirable. Intelligence, strength and confidence are extremely attractive and, really, essential for me.


Errr, I'm a guy.
Looks down, checks to be sure.
Yep.
Still am.

Wipes brow.
Wheew, you had me worried there for a minute.
For one brief instant, I had pink tutu visions :-)


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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 2:33:06 PM   
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Why are you even asking this question? Everyone's going to say that they prefer women with brains, regardless. You *know* that.

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 2:48:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana
Errr, I'm a guy.
Looks down, checks to be sure.
Yep.
Still am.

Wipes brow.
Wheew, you had me worried there for a minute.
For one brief instant, I had pink tutu visions :-)



I don't understand.

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 3:14:21 PM   
Kana


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quote:

ORIGINAL: AlphaFemsRule


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana
Errr, I'm a guy.
Looks down, checks to be sure.
Yep.
Still am.

Wipes brow.
Wheew, you had me worried there for a minute.
For one brief instant, I had pink tutu visions :-)



I don't understand.


Your post came up as a reply to mine (See bottom right hand corner of the comment box)
I kinda figured it might be by accident, but who knows? Best to be sure :-)

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 3:32:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AlphaFemsRule


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana
Errr, I'm a guy.
Looks down, checks to be sure.
Yep.
Still am.

Wipes brow.
Wheew, you had me worried there for a minute.
For one brief instant, I had pink tutu visions :-)



I don't understand.



if your post is not a reply to Kana but to the original poster (in this case asanaambitions), on this forum it is use to start the post with the acronym FR (fast reply).

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 5:42:15 PM   
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Why are you even asking this question? Everyone's going to say that they prefer women with brains, regardless. You *know* that.

Well, since most people know who I am married to... yeah they do *know*

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 6:20:15 PM   
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Wait...they aren't?

When did this happen?

Did I not get the submissive man memo?

If someone doesn't appreciate your intelligence and insults you for it, then they're not worth your time. Plain and simple. If you don't put an emphasis on knowledge, learning, and critical thinking then what kind of message are you sending? That's what gets us into trouble in the long run.


I'll take a strong, intelligent woman who can boggle my mind any day.

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 9:15:13 PM   
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Here's something to help you weed out the men just a teeny, tiny bit. Mind you it doesn't always work but you may pull in a few that are a little smarter that will be interested in you. It's worth the try.

Put something in your profile that you enjoy but may not be something an idiot would understand. Maybe a quote, some kind of technical jargon about something only an educated person would understand (it has to be something you actually like and would like to talk about though), a book that you enjoyed and would like to talk about,etc....

I've done this in the past and found that I would get a more upscale of men who would reply to my profile. That doesn't mean I still didn't get the idiots. I still did but at least it got more of what I wanted also.

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RE: Are strong, smart women not desirable? - 2/7/2014 9:18:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

To answer the question in your title, smart, strong women are hot as fuck.



Yup, RedMagic has this one pretty much sorted.

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ORIGINAL: asanaambitions

I guess I just have a habit of bursting people's fantasy bubbles. It's not just the guys who show up in my inbox and act like relationships should mirror porn who end up getting cranky with me, but also guys who start interesting topics and then become furious when I demonstrate that I know more about what they're talking about than they do.


Yup. In a way, you're doing them a kindness. They won't see it that way, mind you.

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