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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 3:44:03 AM   
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Am I right to be as angry as I am? I'm just looking for input to see if I'm just over reacting:

From my last journal update:

I am sick of shallow women! By shallow I mean all they see is the 'chair and automatically dismiss me as not good enough or don't bother to learn the fact I'm in it from the Military defending y'all's Freedoms. Geeee, surprise surprise. Reality check: How many guys have been in 2 comas and died 3 times for you ungrateful cunts?

(My britches are in a bunch since I received another response telling me, freaks like me shouldn't be on here, rather a site for the disabled.) And 'freak' as in my disability, not my sexual proclivity.

I'll admit, I was upset and shaking from rage at getting another message like this. I mean, c'mon... I know certain protocols are followed, but hearing this from a potential interest sub???



OK, first of all, anybody having a go at you for your disability, that person disqualifies herself and isn't a person you'd want to serve anyway. You should count your lucky stars that they are wearing their prejudices on their sleeve and you don't have to invest any time finding out their real character.

As for that you got your disability in the military, I don't mean to sound rude, but personally I wouldn't think I owe you to be your Dominant because of your career choice or medical conditions you have suffered due to that choice. I think as a citizen we all owe veterans to make sure they are well provided for, but relationships are slightly different than social obligations of a society, just like I'm not "entitled" to have a sub (I have to be worthy or else I just get people I really don't want) and you're not entitled to have a Mistress or Dominant.

Might sound unfair, but a lot of it chemistry...

Now I do have one question, the ladies that were quite rude to you, did you check their profile and check if they were actually looking for a submissive, or did you just Cmail them out of the blue? I'm not making excuses for their rudeness, but if you were the 20th person approaching them that day, despite them explicitly stating they aren't looking, that might have something to do with the harsh reaction (again, not an excuse for insulting you, but maybe you can avoid those situations by reading profiles carefully).

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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 3:46:27 AM   
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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 3:52:18 AM   
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You know Rule, your posts seem somewhat different from when I use to be on the forum last year.
I don't think I've read anything thus far that wasn't pretty reasonable both in structure and content.
Last year it was like the diary of a madman.

I am proud to be a madman.

I thank you for the compliment.



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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 3:58:12 AM   
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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 4:10:24 AM   
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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 4:26:11 AM   
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T?hank you Angelika. Sprichst du Deutch? Your name is spelled in that manner.

I checked my mail, nothing came through.



Check your bulk folder.

Good Catch! :)

And once upon a time I took a German language class (2 years) in my High School.

We had to select German names for class.
My last name is towards the end of the alphabet and I think only Dagmar was left on the printed list.
So I was going to select it.
The teacher had also taught my mother French and so had a soft spot for me.
And she gave me the name Angelika (which wasn't on the printed selection list).

Ich spreche fast kein Deutch.

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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 5:35:07 AM   
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Waaaaaay back when I was working my way through school, I worked for the university's disabled students program. One of the most fantastic persons I've ever met was in that program, he was a quad. Only a few years earlier he'd dove into the lake at a party after his high school prom and broke his back.

He could have been terribly angry, but he wasn't. Although I helped him physically as part of my job, he helped me emotionally, b/c he taught me that when life hands you a bad deal, it's up to you how to react to it. Life always hands people hard stuff to get through, and the measure of who you are is how you deal with it.

One of the worst students in the disabled program was a vet who over stated her injuries and pretended to be disabled for the attention and benefits. With the help of the coordinator of the program, I outed her. (She pretended she couldn't walk, but could manage to get out of my car to buy donuts, and no I'm not kidding.)

About a year later I saw her as a check out clerk, standing on her feet all day.

Yes, there are some lessons in my morning's ramblings, for those who need it.

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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 5:38:41 AM   
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I like what I like.

No one DESERVES a shot a me, regardless of what they've been through. I happen to not be attracted to overweight men, and I do not want to enter in a relationship with someone in a chair.

I have a right to my preferences, just like you have a right to yours.

Also, stop fucking milking the DV thing, Jesus.

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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 5:48:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Chatte, couldn't agree more, at the moment I have a bit of time on my hands and decided rather than just donating a bit of money to a charity and feel better about it, I volunteer as most small charities can't afford to hire a PR person (I also rather support small charities where the money goes to what it is intended for instead of being wasted on huge administrations and lavish salaries for figure heads), I'm constantly amazed at what some people can achieve despite their disabilities and that instead of drowning in self-pity actually try and make a difference for others, I find them far more inspiring than the latest pop idol winner or other such nonsense.

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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 5:50:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some of these people's disabilities might not be visible to the naked eye. They might rally need mental help from a professional. I strongly do believe this after dealing with the most bewildering individual I have ever met in my entire life. Traumatic events can change people for the worse unfortunately.

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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 7:05:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thinkyoucanhang

Am I right to be as angry as I am? I'm just looking for input to see if I'm just over reacting:

From my last journal update:

I am sick of shallow women! By shallow I mean all they see is the 'chair and automatically dismiss me as not good enough or don't bother to learn the fact I'm in it from the Military defending y'all's Freedoms. Geeee, surprise surprise. Reality check: How many guys have been in 2 comas and died 3 times for you ungrateful cunts?

(My britches are in a bunch since I received another response telling me, freaks like me shouldn't be on here, rather a site for the disabled.) And 'freak' as in my disability, not my sexual proclivity.

I'll admit, I was upset and shaking from rage at getting another message like this. I mean, c'mon... I know certain protocols are followed, but hearing this from a potential interest sub???



Wow ungrateful cunts eh? Sounds pretty fucked.

So lets get this straight someone doesn't want to submit to you and some how because of your military time you feel they owe you something?

Not lets be honest here. There women aren't crappy human beings they are just human. The same faults you have are similar to the ones they have.

I've been on this site less than just about 24 hours and had my fair share of shit messages.

Now lets return to shallow women ? Are you looking for a wheelchair bound sub? Or did that just not enter your mind at all? If you weren't in a wheelchair would you be gung ho about finding a woman that is in one? If you can say NO then it's not all surprising why you're being passed by.

Also does every woman want to actually share a man? I mean there's enough available cock out there to go around so a married man may not be what they're seeking. Have you even thought about that? Maybe they're looking for what you have sans the open relationship.


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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 9:08:18 AM   
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That scene slays!

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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 9:14:05 AM   
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I'm also thinking this part of your profile (if anyone gets that far) is not going to help you much, either:

"As for my 'condition', possibly look on it as a form of degradation, meaning, you're not good enough for a 'whole' man if you can't even handle half and I am much much more a man than many men could ever be... "

Honestly, your wheelchair would not bother me a bit. Your attitude, however, would.


Now...I haven't read the profile, but seriously....this line itself is a contradiction....having worked as a carer with folks disabled neck down....I do know for sure, that men in a wheelchair can be way much work than the ones without...
So seriously....to try to make fun of it with degradation would not be a turn on at all...

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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 9:32:55 AM   
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Wow ungrateful cunts eh? Sounds pretty fucked.

So lets get this straight someone doesn't want to submit to you and some how because of your military time you feel they owe you something?

Not lets be honest here. There women aren't crappy human beings they are just human. The same faults you have are similar to the ones they have.

I've been on this site less than just about 24 hours and had my fair share of shit messages.

Now lets return to shallow women ? Are you looking for a wheelchair bound sub? Or did that just not enter your mind at all? If you weren't in a wheelchair would you be gung ho about finding a woman that is in one? If you can say NO then it's not all surprising why you're being passed by.

Also does every woman want to actually share a man? I mean there's enough available cock out there to go around so a married man may not be what they're seeking. Have you even thought about that? Maybe they're looking for what you have sans the open relationship.



I agree with some of the stuff you wrote here.

Begin rant.

I want to say to thinkyoucanhang... As an NCO you really are making Me sick. Dude, you are not in the Army anymore, so guess what? You now have the ability to buck the system. Don't like the way the VA is treating you? Either join one of the VA rights groups out there who are trying to change the system or form one yourself. You are being part of the problem, not the solution. Your self pity is detrimental to your health, and everyone around you and it oozes from all your hatred ridden propaganda that you are posting.

Does a NCO ever have all the resources needed to complete a mission? This is a serious question. I know I rarely do. Yeah I will complain, but guess what? I get the mission accomplished anyway. Does an NCO EVER do this complaining in front of PV2 Joe Snuffy? No. Does an NCO ever bring an issue to the table with no solution? No, we bring many possible solutions and work on implementing one or a combination of any number of them. I was deployed but not into an actual "combat" zone, but that is because I reclassified into a different MOS. I WAS a 19K when I joined though, spent 3 years in the 3rd ACR (All Criminal Regiment), and I have witnessed 2 very bad accidents from tanks. 1 deadly, the other, a life changing mangling. First one was a friend having his head ripped off by a traversing turret, and the second guy thought he could guide a pac through brute strength, and it slammed his left arm between the pac and the hull.

You seriously need to get your PTSD taken care of, for yourself most importantly, and for all around you. As long as you keep focusing on all this bad, that is all anyone will ever see from you.

PS Submissive women are still human beings... not some piece of trash that you can stomp all over. How about showing them what you have to offer to them instead of what you are lacking? I would be willing to bet you get much better results that way.

PSS How lucky are you to have gotten back alive? How many have not? I am grateful for every one of our brothers and sisters in arms who gets home.

End rant.

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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 9:33:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know if this will make you feel better or not but, when I am out and about I don't pay attention to anyone, wouldn't matter if they were upright or seated. 
It may be because you are sensitive to being in that chair that you are focusing on it as the reason people are not seeing you but I don't think that is accurate.
I don't see anyone.  Many of us do not. We shop, walk, jog, drive, head out to our destination or on our way to do some chore and that is our focus. 
It is not that people are deliberately ignoring ONLY those who are in chairs.  It is more that in our society we are more likely to be in a hurry, or choosing to avoid human contact as a way to protect ourselves.

The chair becomes just one factor when people are looking for a possible mate.  And people have a right to want what they want.  My old standard used to be 6'2", eyes of blue, and that was shallow.  My new standard is no married or attached men.... and eyes of blue.  lol so see we all like what we like.


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Quit ignoring me or acting like I'm invisible in public, then I won't act out. It's that simple.


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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 9:39:00 AM   
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Part of why it worked so well for me then was subs did what you said, before you said it. Not this I'll do it when I want, if I want vibe. Then again, my subs were also Soldiers or from surrounding Army base areas.



Maybe YOUR subs did what you said, before you said it, but not all subs.

There is a phrase: I may be submissive, but I'm not YOUR submissive. As a submissive, I'm not required to obey any schmuck who decides to tick the dominant box on an internet site. We are still human beings with the right to choose to whom we will submit.

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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 9:42:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MisterP61


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ORIGINAL: GoddessBlueKura
Wow ungrateful cunts eh? Sounds pretty fucked.

So lets get this straight someone doesn't want to submit to you and some how because of your military time you feel they owe you something?

Not lets be honest here. There women aren't crappy human beings they are just human. The same faults you have are similar to the ones they have.

I've been on this site less than just about 24 hours and had my fair share of shit messages.

Now lets return to shallow women ? Are you looking for a wheelchair bound sub? Or did that just not enter your mind at all? If you weren't in a wheelchair would you be gung ho about finding a woman that is in one? If you can say NO then it's not all surprising why you're being passed by.

Also does every woman want to actually share a man? I mean there's enough available cock out there to go around so a married man may not be what they're seeking. Have you even thought about that? Maybe they're looking for what you have sans the open relationship.



I agree with some of the stuff you wrote here.

Begin rant.

I want to say to thinkyoucanhang... As an NCO you really are making Me sick. Dude, you are not in the Army anymore, so guess what? You now have the ability to buck the system. Don't like the way the VA is treating you? Either join one of the VA rights groups out there who are trying to change the system or form one yourself. You are being part of the problem, not the solution. Your self pity is detrimental to your health, and everyone around you and it oozes from all your hatred ridden propaganda that you are posting.

Does a NCO ever have all the resources needed to complete a mission? This is a serious question. I know I rarely do. Yeah I will complain, but guess what? I get the mission accomplished anyway. Does an NCO EVER do this complaining in front of PV2 Joe Snuffy? No. Does an NCO ever bring an issue to the table with no solution? No, we bring many possible solutions and work on implementing one or a combination of any number of them. I was deployed but not into an actual "combat" zone, but that is because I reclassified into a different MOS. I WAS a 19K when I joined though, spent 3 years in the 3rd ACR (All Criminal Regiment), and I have witnessed 2 very bad accidents from tanks. 1 deadly, the other, a life changing mangling. First one was a friend having his head ripped off by a traversing turret, and the second guy thought he could guide a pac through brute strength, and it slammed his left arm between the pac and the hull.

You seriously need to get your PTSD taken care of, for yourself most importantly, and for all around you. As long as you keep focusing on all this bad, that is all anyone will ever see from you.

PS Submissive women are still human beings... not some piece of trash that you can stomp all over. How about showing them what you have to offer to them instead of what you are lacking? I would be willing to bet you get much better results that way.

PSS How lucky are you to have gotten back alive? How many have not? I am grateful for every one of our brothers and sisters in arms who gets home.

End rant.


Oh MrP, it's been rare that I have seen you post so often, and I have enjoyed seeing you about the place just lately. I like your Mrs a lot because she posts a lot of straight to the point stuff. Now I see her husband is the same.

Good posting MP

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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 9:48:24 AM   
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Quit beating a dead horse here folks.

Ever think I'm SICK of people telling me how to act? I'm not going to change just because you're uncomfortable.

Quit ignoring me or acting like I'm invisible in public, then I won't act out. It's that simple.



Do you really think that the way to get people to behave the way you want them to is to have temper tantrums filled with all sorts of inappropriate very adult behaviors?

Being in a wheel chair does tend to make you less visible.
You aren't at eye level.
That does not mean you are intentionally being ignored.
It means that you just aren't a part of someone's attention.

That isn't personal.
It isn't malicious.
It is just human.



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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 10:34:22 AM   
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Quit beating a dead horse here folks.

Ever think I'm SICK of people telling me how to act? I'm not going to change just because you're uncomfortable.

Quit ignoring me or acting like I'm invisible in public, then I won't act out. It's that simple.



So we specifically, the CM community, have ignored you in public? It seems you have anger issues with the general public and are either looking for a place to rant or get sympathy. If that's the case I wouldn't recommend these forums. I have a vast amount of respect for service men and women as I have several vets in my family. My father was also disabled before he passed and was wheelchair bound for about five years. My step mother stayed with him until he passed and loved him unconditionally. But she dealt with that because she loved him. You have a disability which doesn't make you any less of a person but it does make it more difficult for your partner. So if a woman is seeking casual play with someone with no emotional attachment it realistically will be with someone without a disability. If you were in a position to build a relationship and an emotional connection I'm sure you could find someone. But what you're looking for is very unlikely. It's not fair but that's how it is. Submissive girls who just want to be "passed around and used" are a rarity, if there are any out there. They can be picky. And you're attitude toward women and you're aggression with the general public doesn't make you a desirable candidate.

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RE: Shallow/superficial women? - 2/15/2014 10:35:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thinkyoucanhang

Quit beating a dead horse here folks.

Ever think I'm SICK of people telling me how to act? I'm not going to change just because you're uncomfortable.

Quit ignoring me or acting like I'm invisible in public, then I won't act out. It's that simple.



1.
I will quit beating a dead horse when you get off your high one. You are not entitled to a submissive. You are not entitled to hot sex on the side. You are entitled to certain military benefits and gratitude for your service.

2.
If you're sick of people telling you how to act, stop hanging around those people. That, or consider that perhaps 10,000 flies can't be wrong.
Don't change because other people are uncomfortable. If the way you're behaving is getting you what you want in life keep on keepin' on. If not, remember the definition of insanity.

3.
Quit ignoring you or you'll act out huh? Well bucko, I am not responsible for your behavior. You chose not to act out when you were on active duty, no matter what shit crossed your way. That means you're choosing to act out now just because you can and it gives you satisfaction. If you're not choosing to do it, if it's beyond your control and you cannot help yourself, you have no business being a dominant. If you get all emotional because you have a chip on your shoulder how on earth are you going to make good decisions for someone else? And yes, being angry is being emotional -- the most counter productive form of all.

You cannot change other people's behavior. You can only change how you will respond to them.


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