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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Bullshit. SYG laws decriminalize shoot first behavior when retreating is an option. That is what it is designed to do. Self defense has always made the use of deadly force legal when no other option was available.

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Bullshit. SYG laws decriminalize shoot first behavior when retreating is an option. That is what it is designed to do. Self defense has always made the use of deadly force legal when no other option was available.

Ya know, if someone shoots a guy for playin loud music or throwing popcorn and uses SYG for an excuse and the judge or jury sucks for it then what are ya guna do ? I get it, shit happens and someone is always lookin to blame something. Casey Anthony got away with it and so did OJ, no SYG needed.

But if some lowlife wants to jack my truck or comes toward me up the walkway with a knife while I'm on my porch, fuck em. I'll be happy to warn them if time and distance allow but fuck em if they can't take a bullet to the brain. If I look in someone's direction who is playin loud music and he says, "what are you lookin at" with an attitude and pulls a weapon, fuck em. If he doesn't pull a weapon but comes over towards me with an attitude and friends tagging behind while I'm with my wife and kids, they'll get a fair warning then fuck em. I'm not only saving my ass but the likely unarmed person who would be his next victim. Fuck em, fuck those low life street urchins, fuck dirt bag anti gun prosecutors, fuck Mike Nifong and fuck New York City. [8D]

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That's not going to happen then... you may as well turn your gun into a bedside light... that is unless there is a mafia hit out on you.

Butch

The dog is a recent addition to my defenses.
I live in a neighborhood that is so bad that I am the only person in the area that can get pizza delivery.
That is because I promise to be on my porch ready to protect the driver.
Our gangbanger wantabees cross the street when they get to my house.
I don't worry about a home invasion and because I am prepared.
I don't worry about an assault away from the house for the same reason.
I make it a point never to look like a victim, wolfs would rather hunt sheep than grizzly.

The problem in your case clearly isn't the guns or any of that, it's the environment around you. I understand that. While I personally dislike guns, I can understand that in a bad neighbourhood, they are necessary to remind others you're willing to do what it takes to protect themselves. With that said, the real problem isn't the fact that the people around you are dangerous, it's because they have nothing else to do than be dangerous. The US has a horrible education system, and a lot of the education funding goes to places that have a fine reputation, no gangs, and no problems. The places that are already in a disadvantage are disadvantaged further because of a lack of education and a lack of opportunity. The problem about guns in america is simple; if people didn't feel threatened, they wouldn't need guns. Clearly there is a problem that is caused by variables outside of simply having guns. The already failed trickle down economics and poor education funding being the likely two-teaming culprits. Until those problems are addressed, until people of misfortune are provided better opportunities in terms of jobs and education, nothing will change. Will it get rid of gangs for good? No, but it will solve a lot of problems and allow for a proper transition out of such a gun obsessed lifestyle. Am I saying I know the solution? God no, I'm just trying to point out the problems. As soon as CEOs stop shipping jobs overseas, as soon as the rich pay their fair share, and as soon as education is prioritized as highly as the military, you'll start seeing some positive changes in your country.

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I really don't think you realize how you come off..

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Bullshit. SYG laws decriminalize shoot first behavior when retreating is an option. That is what it is designed to do. Self defense has always made the use of deadly force legal when no other option was available.

Ya know, if someone shoots a guy for playin loud music or throwing popcorn and uses SYG for an excuse and the judge or jury sucks for it then what are ya guna do ? I get it, shit happens and someone is always lookin to blame something. Casey Anthony got away with it and so did OJ, no SYG needed.

But if some lowlife wants to jack my truck or comes toward me up the walkway with a knife while I'm on my porch, fuck em. I'll be happy to warn them if time and distance allow but fuck em if they can't take a bullet to the brain. If I look in someone's direction who is playin loud music and he says, "what are you lookin at" with an attitude and pulls a weapon, fuck em. If he doesn't pull a weapon but comes over towards me with an attitude and friends tagging behind while I'm with my wife and kids, they'll get a fair warning then fuck em. I'm not only saving my ass but the likely unarmed person who would be his next victim. Fuck em, fuck those low life street urchins, fuck dirt bag anti gun prosecutors, fuck Mike Nifong and fuck New York City. [8D]

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Bullshit. SYG laws decriminalize shoot first behavior when retreating is an option. That is what it is designed to do. Self defense has always made the use of deadly force legal when no other option was available.

Ya know, if someone shoots a guy for playin loud music or throwing popcorn and uses SYG for an excuse and the judge or jury sucks for it then what are ya guna do ? I get it, shit happens and someone is always lookin to blame something. Casey Anthony got away with it and so did OJ, no SYG needed.

But if some lowlife wants to jack my truck or comes toward me up the walkway with a knife while I'm on my porch, fuck em. I'll be happy to warn them if time and distance allow but fuck em if they can't take a bullet to the brain. If I look in someone's direction who is playin loud music and he says, "what are you lookin at" with an attitude and pulls a weapon, fuck em. If he doesn't pull a weapon but comes over towards me with an attitude and friends tagging behind while I'm with my wife and kids, they'll get a fair warning then fuck em. I'm not only saving my ass but the likely unarmed person who would be his next victim. Fuck em, fuck those low life street urchins, fuck dirt bag anti gun prosecutors, fuck Mike Nifong and fuck New York City. [8D]

And that is exactly why you shouldn't be armed in public. Shooting someone should be the last resort not the first.

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So you will not answer... ok... I really don't think you realize how you come off... Nothing I have said is advocating criminals own the world...lol

I am only advocating good sense.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Bullshit. SYG laws decriminalize shoot first behavior when retreating is an option. That is what it is designed to do. Self defense has always made the use of deadly force legal when no other option was available.

Ya know, if someone shoots a guy for playin loud music or throwing popcorn and uses SYG for an excuse and the judge or jury sucks for it then what are ya guna do ? I get it, shit happens and someone is always lookin to blame something. Casey Anthony got away with it and so did OJ, no SYG needed.

But if some lowlife wants to jack my truck or comes toward me up the walkway with a knife while I'm on my porch, fuck em. I'll be happy to warn them if time and distance allow but fuck em if they can't take a bullet to the brain. If I look in someone's direction who is playin loud music and he says, "what are you lookin at" with an attitude and pulls a weapon, fuck em. If he doesn't pull a weapon but comes over towards me with an attitude and friends tagging behind while I'm with my wife and kids, they'll get a fair warning then fuck em. I'm not only saving my ass but the likely unarmed person who would be his next victim. Fuck em, fuck those low life street urchins, fuck dirt bag anti gun prosecutors, fuck Mike Nifong and fuck New York City. [8D]

And that is exactly why you shouldn't be armed in public. Shooting someone should be the last resort not the first.

So you would use your Chuck Norris commando skills to protect your wife and kids against that type of mob. I suppose you can stop bullets like superman too.

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No. But I don't assume every situation will result in needing lethal force. As a matter of fact I've lived in a rough urban environment for my entire adult life and never needed a firearm to be safe. Common sense has served me far better. Never once have I been in a situation where I could not withdraw. If you draw a weapon in front of your wife and children it just makes it more likely that bullets will be coming towards your wife and kids.