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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 11:20:20 AM   
FieryOpal


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ORIGINAL: SubMale9999

I've seen quite a few Pro-Dommes and they have all been positive experience, except for my first one.

... "Los Angeles Pro-Domme" directory I looked at and I contacted the ones I was interested in. I picked out one and although she was one of the most expensive of them all ($350 for 60 minutes) I figured since this is my first I'm willing to spend the money.
<snip>

Out of the horse's mouth, since this discussion seems to be hovering over pro-Domme rates and session length now, about how much on average have you been charged by "quite a few" of the pro-Dommes you've hired, and did you get your full hour?

You don't have to go into detail about whether it was for an OTK spanking, impact play or a kink specialty. Don't include any tip amount, if applicable. Do share, as you've invited others to share.

Are you still in the LA area or have you moved elsewhere? You have your profile hidden. I'm curious to know whether this is something some men feel compelled to brag about, how much they spent on a provider. (The nation's capital is glutted with lots of social climbers who like to believe they impress others by their big spending habits.)

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 11:23:41 AM   
FieryOpal


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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

FieryOpal, don't you think it's funny how you don't care? Seems you don't care much for the truth, yet you are very very eager to repeat anything some guy says. Does that mean you are so gullible?

As for a guy offering you $350, well, you know very skilled Dommes with professional dungeons and super hot bodies can't charge that, so some guy tells you that on a site that is for life-style and dangles it? Seems you gave him a free session in cyber.



You may give cyber sessions, I don't.

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 11:30:38 AM   
LadyConstanze


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Status: offline 		It really doesn't matter. You're paying a rate for the time, some things might have an added surcharge (medical, intensive rubber encasement) due to the fact that you need supplies that are very costly, it's pretty much frowned upon to spring higher prices for some activities during the session on the client, because that's what escorts do. With Dommes, you pay x amount for 60 minutes, showering and chat doesn't count (though she will tell you if you're a bit excessive with the time, like you want to talk for an hour), and it's also normal that aftercare doesn't count as session time.

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 1:07:24 PM   
LafayetteLady


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Status: offline 		Fieryopal,

Why do you seem so intent on contradicint people who have experience in areas you don't as well as fling back handed insults? I've noticed you doing this on several occassions.

I'm not a pro, nor do iave experience regading them. Based on your profile, niether do you, so how can you try to speak of "facts" that you know from second and third person sources?

There is no question the OP seems to have had a rather bad experience for which he paid an overly high rate.

Craig's List is not where someone finds a pro domme and yes an escort might very well not have sex with a fetish client simply because she is smart enough to know she doesn't have to.

There have been MANY discussions regarding pros over the years, long before your appearance last year. Many of our currently active or previously active pro dommes commented on those threads. Maybe you can search those threads out so you can get some accurate information regarding the business as opposed to stating your assumptions and opinions and presenting them as facts with which you have personal knowledge and experience.

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 1:16:04 PM   
LadyConstanze


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Status: offline 		It's not so much the ridiculous tribute (which established pro's with kick ass dungeons and smoking hot bodies don't get), but a few other indicators, like peeing on him without a warning in a regular apartment, err, the floors? Then just sticking up a finger up his bum, I mean really? Without gloves and everything?

And he found her on some site where the going rate is usually much much lower, and he thought the woman was the assistant and just handed over the money?

Just too many things that don't scan right

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 1:55:09 PM   
FieryOpal


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Fieryopal,

Why do you seem so intent on contradicint people who have experience in areas you don't as well as fling back handed insults? I've noticed you doing this on several occassions.

I'm not a pro, nor do iave experience regading them. Based on your profile, niether do you, so how can you try to speak of "facts" that you know from second and third person sources?

There is no question the OP seems to have had a rather bad experience for which he paid an overly high rate.

Craig's List is not where someone finds a pro domme and yes an escort might very well not have sex with a fetish client simply because she is smart enough to know she doesn't have to.

There have been MANY discussions regarding pros over the years, long before your appearance last year. Many of our currently active or previously active pro dommes commented on those threads. Maybe you can search those threads out so you can get some accurate information regarding the business as opposed to stating your assumptions and opinions and presenting them as facts with which you have personal knowledge and experience.

Let's see ... could it possibly be that I can sometimes be an opinionated bitch? Gee, know any other Dommes like that? (Or non-Dominant women, come to think of it)

So if a second-hand source is discredited, then the only people who should be responding on this thread ARE pro-Domme clients and pro-Dommes themselves, according to your logic.

Does this also mean that if a discussion thread comes up about female submissives, and my being a straight Domme doesn't give me first-hand knowledge, then I guess you would have a problem with my posting there?

I'd like for OP to fill in a few of the holes in his story, if and when he returns to this thread. Of course, taking him at face value should elicit a sympathetic response. It didn't stop him from seeking out others advertising themselves as pro-Dommes, if we are to believe his story. He must be quite intrepid.

I know somebody in this industry I haven't been able to get a hold of, but then again, that would be a second-person source.

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 1:58:39 PM   
kalikshama


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I think the problem is that Opal presented an anecdote which was interpreted that she was presenting a statistic. Can we all agree that it was an anecdote and move on? :)

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 2:03:33 PM   
FieryOpal


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

FR,

I think the problem is that Opal presented an anecdote which was interpreted that she was presenting a statistic. Can we all agree that it was an anecdote and move on? :)

Thank you, kalikshama, for being so sensible and level-headed.

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 2:06:12 PM   
LadyConstanze


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Status: offline 		Well, seriously, I got about 10 years of pro-Domming (admittedly part time as I always had a vanilla career) under my belt, is that 1st hand knowledge enough? I'm also friends with a bunch of female dungeon owners, most of them in the US, whenever I'm in the US and I have a bit of time to spare, I love helping to train their stuff and do demos. I think it's fair to say I just *might* have an idea.

Apart from the logic flaws in this guys story, the price doesn't add up (unless you also believe he pays $150 for the super saver menue at McD and didn't blink an eye), it wouldn't be the first guy who claims he was ripped off in a pro session to inspire feelings of sympathy and would try to get a free or greatly reduced session because he was so hard done by.

Now it could also be (which happens with alarming frequency) some guy who wanted to be a personal, a pro-Domme wasn't interested and he now claims he had a terrible experience, after a bit of pushing he might reluctantly spill the name, or he just might rubbish her name in PMs...

Welcome to dealing with clients... Oh and basically, the biggest problems most pro Dommes have is guys trying to pay less, so there is this guy who wants a session, didn't really look at the prices other dommes charge, just hands over the cash (at a greatly inflated price) to an "assistant" and then tells his tale of woe...

If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, smells like a duck....

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 2:24:45 PM   
ChristianDomCA


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Status: offline 		I opened this thread to read what other people's experiences were like and to share my own. However, seeing all the bickering going on I'm not going to do it. This bickering is scaring people away from sharing. Nobody likes to be put under the magnifying glass and criticized.

< Message edited by ChristianDomCA -- 2/27/2014 2:31:22 PM >

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 2:29:28 PM   
LadyConstanze


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ORIGINAL: ChristianDomCA

My take on the OP is that he wants people to share what their Pro-Domme experiences were like. With all the bickering going on it seems everyone is too afraid to do so.



For those who can read and utilize their brain, his "experience" doesn't ring true, maybe you want to share your session experiences? Ooops you did, you meet subs who do everything for a hot meal...

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 2:44:41 PM   
RedMagic1


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Status: offline 		$350/hr sounds like an Asian woman with a model's body in Los Angeles, especially one who also tries to recruit guys for draining/rinsing. The only people I've seen who charge more are very well known fetish models, or porn stars. I saw one well-known performer advertising sessions for about $1,200/hr at the Mustang Ranch. Those sessions involved "full service," of course, not just spanking botty.

$180/hr sounds much more reasonable for most major metropolitan areas in the US. In less expensive places to live, it's probably $120-200.

The encounter the OP is claiming to have happened might have really happened, who knows. The woman involved isn't likely to get much repeat business. But this isn't exactly a regulated industry, especially if guys find women through Backpage or Eros. There aren't a lot of lifestyle references available about women who are advertising in that way.

< Message edited by RedMagic1 -- 2/27/2014 2:45:38 PM >

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 2:55:40 PM   
LadyConstanze


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Status: offline 		RedMagic, I bear to differ, there are countless webpages dedicated to reviewing sessions and while I am not in favour of shorting anybody, sometimes it seems like having the stop watch seems more important for the guys than the experience.

The price seems a bit "odd" especially in a highly competitive market, but let's just think guy who booked a session never once decided to look around how much the average is (btw in most Metropolitan areas 200 to 250 are more realistic for established Dommes, which would include reputation, wardrobe, dungeon, tools, etc.), but the rest of the session, it just well, who messes up their own floor. He claimed it was an apartment, so peeing on the floor... Then the finger up the rectum, seriously? Without warning and a glove? Even if she was an escort, most escorts have fake nails, I don't think she wanted to spend hours to scrape errr residue from underneath her nails... (and I think I just threw up in my mouth)

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 2:58:21 PM   
ChristianDomCA


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Status: offline 		This Pro-Domme charges $350 an hour.

Exxotic Angel

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 2:59:23 PM   
RedMagic1


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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
200 to 250 are more realistic for established Dommes

I agree with this, but the majority of ads seem to be from women who are not (yet?) established. So I think my numbers hold up.

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 3:01:03 PM   
LadyConstanze


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
200 to 250 are more realistic for established Dommes

I agree with this, but the majority of ads seem to be from women who are not (yet?) established. So I think my numbers hold up.


I guess it's the fly by night Backpage stuff, most people tend to stay away from it, especially if they value their health

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 3:07:22 PM   
LadyConstanze


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ORIGINAL: ChristianDomCA

This Pro-Domme charges $350 an hour.

Exxotic Angel


Congratulations, you found 1 who says she charges a certain amount, and the website "sexxy girls" and "exxotic angel" doesn't clue you in? Let me help you, they don't want to wave a red flag for LE (law enforcement for you) so they use what they think is hidden messages, now take a wild guess, why are there 2X everywhere, think it just possibly, you know imaginably, might be some sort of code that they do things that dommes do not do and that is why the prices are just much higher...

Was that really so hard to figure out? I mean it's only staring you in the face, a bit more and it would bite your nose...

The fact that they also offer stripping and bachelor parties also didn't make you pause?

I have a marvellous bridge to sell...

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 3:44:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK. OK. I checked prices in the San Francisco Bay Area (somebody has to do these things).

0. I went to myredbook dot com (http://myredbook.com).
1. I pressed on "Search Reviews" on the top left side.
2. For the "Area", I chose "San Francisco".
3. For the "Category", I chose "BDSM".
4. I hit the "Search" button (leaving everything else blank).

Up came more than a dozen providers, of which 3 were reviewed this month.

The latest review (names and phone numbers removed) was an 21-24-year-old frican American woman, with BBW build and "Perky" breasts, in Emeryville, who charges $80 for Half Hour Appointments or $200/hour. 
2014-02-25 Looks=5	Service=3	this was a bad idea
2013-12-24 Looks=7	Service=7.5 Sensual vigorating massage well worked release
2013-10-03 Looks=10 	Service=10 Such a gorgeous woman with curves for days!!!! ultimate DOM for any SUBMISSIVE boy
2013-07-12 Looks=10	Service=10 A wonderful massage with release from a skilled practitioner	
2013-05-30 Looks=8	Service=8	Pretty, creative, naturally dominant


The second most recent review was for a brand new 25-29 year old "Curvy" 5'8 to 5'10 provider with "36B Perky breasts", kitty partially shaved, and 3 tattoos, who only had a single review: 
2014-02-22 Looks= 9 Service=10 Sweet, exciting, adventurous beautiful young woman who will bring your fantasies to life.


This new Domme's fee schedule states:
quote:

Sessions begin at:
1 Hour - 220
1 1/2 Hours - 300
2 Hours - 420


The third most recent review is for an 18-20 year old middle eastern 5'5-5'7 "Curvy" woman with a "bald" kitty and size "B, puffy" breasts, and a belly button piercing in Stockton California. Her reviews looked faked, and she didn't post a price, so, I won't quote more.

Next, I'll look in the Silicon Valley (aka South Bay) area, to see if the rate of $200/hour holds firm.

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 3:50:03 PM   
LadyConstanze


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Status: offline 		You know that doesn't make sense, the biggest part of a session is preparation and clean up (as in everything has to be sterilized and disinfected) and you spend as much time for 30 minutes as for 60 minutes, so usually a full hour is cheaper than 2 30 minute sessions, somebody should clue the first woman in.... if somebody can get two 30 minute sessions cheaper than a 60 minute session, why would anybody actually book 60 minutes?

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RE: Pro-Domme Experiences - 2/27/2014 3:50:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lady C, you crack me up..all true what you're saying though.

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