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Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 2:06:38 PM   
LorraineCA


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I've had this happen to me before too but not at Macy's. It's so humiliating and embarrassing. If people don't believe in the oppression of blacks by USA system, I hope they get searched just because of their race. Then they would understand how humiliating it is.

I don't understand why the above link doesn't work. You will have to copy and paste it to read the article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25/macys-racial-discrimination-lawsuit-black-shopper_n_4164823.html

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 2:11:28 PM   
mnottertail


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Yup, that happens. 

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 2:49:12 PM   
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FYI

Overall, blacks and Hispanics were no more likely than whites to steal merchandise. However, when race and gender were examined by subcategory, Hispanic females stole the most, shoplifting at more than seven times the rate of white females ~Source

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 2:54:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bigger question is Why and if there is anything that can be done to prevent such actions at the root, instead of enforced security. There is a reason for everything in this world, a cause and effect. A lot of our justice system focuses on the effects and doles out punishment based on them, instead of looking at the cause and trying to prevent future actions of the likes. If it's economic in nature, then it's clear there is lacking economic opportunity in certain areas and incentives need to be taken to improve that. But then again, there's too much money in private prisons, and that would never happen...

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 4:35:55 PM   
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I'm white so that doesn't count.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 4:37:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		No but I'm talking about objective large scale trends, you probably wouldn't even register on it, or if you did you'd be an outlier. Not that I mean to be offensive or anything

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 4:39:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		The only prob is that it happened several times over the years.

As for me being an outlier....damn right.

My point is that I wasn't detained for being white. I was detained for being.....poor..and therefore an easy target for the Gestap....errr I mean cops.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 4:49:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		My brother is white and when he first moved to his town (before he got all the scary tattoos) got hassled by the cops so many times that my mother had to speak to the chief of police.

I'm white and when I was a teenager, a clerk in a shoe store would not let me try on a pair of boots. Perhaps I looked poor, or like a shoplifter, whatever that looks like, but clearly black was not part of the criteria for this clerk.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 4:55:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		well that's that then, 2 white people have been hassled by the feds so nothing to see here, move along

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 4:56:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
The only prob is that it happened several times over the years.

As for me being an outlier....damn right.

My point is that I wasn't detained for being white. I was detained for being.....poor..and therefore an easy target for the Gestap....errr I mean cops.


People do have a desire to feel safe in their neighborhoods from suspicious people, vehicles and behaviors. Those people that reside there pay taxes. The taxes pay to hire and maintain a police force. The police force keeps an eye out for suspicious looking individuals, vehicles and behaviors. Those are checked and if things seem to be ok and in order, the officer lets them go.

For Example....

If you or others feel the police officer took action due to your race, most states if not all have some mechanism set up to report such actions to be investigated. Any police station worth its weight in gold does NOT wish to lose the respect of the community.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 4:58:16 PM   
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well that's that then, 2 white people have been hassled by the feds so nothing to see here, move along

It wasn't the feds, it was the local Gestapo.

How many folk of African descent have posted on this thread?

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 5:02:42 PM   
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well that's that then, 2 white people have been hassled by the feds so nothing to see here, move along


I talk about the evils of racism in this country all the time. The OP was poorly constructed.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 5:06:37 PM   
deathtothepixies


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Status: offline 		only the OP, but that's probably because everyone else looking at this thread is white. There is an on going argument over here about "stop and search" laws, which seem to involve a lot of black people being " stopped and searched" especially in big cities.

Don't tell me that similar discussions don't take place over there

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 5:13:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

only the OP, but that's probably because everyone else looking at this thread is white. There is an on going argument over here about "stop and search" laws, which seem to involve a lot of black people being " stopped and searched" especially in big cities.

Don't tell me that similar discussions don't take place over there

Similar discussions take place everywhere.

I was only pointing out that it isn't just minorities who are victimized by bullies with badges.

It's poor people in general regardless of color in many places.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 5:28:28 PM   
deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

only the OP, but that's probably because everyone else looking at this thread is white. There is an on going argument over here about "stop and search" laws, which seem to involve a lot of black people being " stopped and searched" especially in big cities.

Don't tell me that similar discussions don't take place over there

Similar discussions take place everywhere.

I was only pointing out that it isn't just minorities who are victimized by bullies with badges.

It's poor people in general regardless of color in many places.

sorry man, I thought you were well off, a working computer, lots of time on line, a car and enough spare cash to buy an enormous plastic cockerel...but hey, you're right, poor people get stopped more and the minorities are poorer than the whites so the feds are just playing the odds.


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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 5:29:35 PM   
Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

only the OP, but that's probably because everyone else looking at this thread is white. There is an on going argument over here about "stop and search" laws, which seem to involve a lot of black people being " stopped and searched" especially in big cities.

Don't tell me that similar discussions don't take place over there

Similar discussions take place everywhere.

I was only pointing out that it isn't just minorities who are victimized by bullies with badges.

It's poor people in general regardless of color in many places.

sorry man, I thought you were well off, a working computer, lots of time on line, a car and enough spare cash to buy an enormous plastic cockerel...but hey, you're right, poor people get stopped more and the minorities are poorer than the whites so the feds are just playing the odds.



When I was young, I couldn't afford a car so I rode a bike 30 Km each way to work.

Some folks have actually worked for what they have.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 5:37:51 PM   
deathtothepixies


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Status: offline 		and some haven't but there aren't many people from minorities who have been gifted an easy life.

Poor is pretty relative to folks with cars and computers

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 5:41:54 PM   
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and some haven't but there aren't many people from minorities who have been gifted an easy life.

Poor is pretty relative to folks with cars and computers

I agree. After I finally got enough money so I didn't have to ride a bike to work, I worked construction and lived out of the back of a '72 ford Torino that I bought for $600.

Are you going to claim I was 'gifted an easy life' in any way, shape form or fashion?

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 6:18:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

and some haven't but there aren't many people from minorities who have been gifted an easy life.

Poor is pretty relative to folks with cars and computers

I agree. After I finally got enough money so I didn't have to ride a bike to work, I worked construction and lived out of the back of a '72 ford Torino that I bought for $600.

Are you going to claim I was 'gifted an easy life' in any way, shape form or fashion?


Stop oppressing him (dying pixie dude)!

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 6:28:21 PM   
Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

and some haven't but there aren't many people from minorities who have been gifted an easy life.

Poor is pretty relative to folks with cars and computers

I agree. After I finally got enough money so I didn't have to ride a bike to work, I worked construction and lived out of the back of a '72 ford Torino that I bought for $600.

Are you going to claim I was 'gifted an easy life' in any way, shape form or fashion?


Stop oppressing him (dying pixie dude)!

I'm white, male, southern and own firearms.

Therefore, I must be the racist, sheet wearing great grandson of a slave owner, wealthy, ultra religious, neocon and shoot things and people for no reason. <sarcasm font off>

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