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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 6:28:32 PM   
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I'm white and when I was a teenager, a clerk in a shoe store would not let me try on a pair of boots.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 8:15:52 PM   
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and some haven't but there aren't many people from minorities who have been gifted an easy life.

Poor is pretty relative to folks with cars and computers



That's spoken like someone who really doesn't know much at all about being poor, but has lots of opinions about it. Some people stay poor, others get the hell out of it. Hunger can be one hell of a motivational tool. The life I have today bears little resemblance at all to the one I had 15 years ago, and every bit of it is on making better choices.

I called it ponytail probable cause, when I'd get hassled back in the day.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/3/2014 9:53:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did I miss something ? He was told his ID was fake and he couldn't afford to buy such an expensive item ? Where was the packaging and his receipt ? This is pure racial profiling...shopping while black.

Marcus Allen, NFL hall of fame running back was stopped regularly by LA police for driving his Ferrari. Blacks are stopped regularly on I-95 suspected of being drug runners. Apparently...the list goes on.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 3:40:00 AM   
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25/macys-racial-discrimination-lawsuit-black-shopper_n_4164823.html


The article indicates that it was undercover officers with NYPD who stopped and searched Brown, not Macy's personnel. So, I wonder why Macy's would be named in the suit. I'm also curious as to why police officers would be doing this kind of duty anyway, since that seems something the store should have to pay private security for.

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I've had this happen to me before too but not at Macy's. It's so humiliating and embarrassing. If people don't believe in the oppression of blacks by USA system, I hope they get searched just because of their race. Then they would understand how humiliating it is.


I was on a Greyhound bus one time, heading across Texas. We stopped at that Border Patrol checkpoint just this side of Van Horn, and the Border Patrol agents had the drug sniffing dogs searching around the baggage compartment. The agents also came on board and started checking ID's and searching people's carry-on luggage. I showed him my ID and told him which bag was mine, but he said he didn't need to see my bag. They were only searching through black people's bags. A lady on the bus noticed this as well and asked "Why are they only searching through the black people's bags?"


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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 4:05:03 AM   
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and some haven't but there aren't many people from minorities who have been gifted an easy life.

Poor is pretty relative to folks with cars and computers

I agree. After I finally got enough money so I didn't have to ride a bike to work, I worked construction and lived out of the back of a '72 ford Torino that I bought for $600.

Are you going to claim I was 'gifted an easy life' in any way, shape form or fashion?


Stop oppressing him (dying pixie dude)!

I'm white, male, southern and own firearms.

Therefore, I must be the racist, sheet wearing great grandson of a slave owner, wealthy, ultra religious, neocon and shoot things and people for no reason. <sarcasm font off>


Oppressor! Now I am feeling oppressed by you.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 6:55:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		One thing to consider; crime is more of a cultural factor than a race factor.

Poverty seems to cause petty criminality to flourish and breeds a mindset where theft is considered acceptable. In some areas that may be predominately black ethnics. Other areas may have high crime by people of Hispanic heritage. Decades ago the same complaint was levied against "[Ethic slur for Irish]" and "[Ethic slur for Italian]" (derogatory terms used to make the point).

An occurrence from the 1970s to illustrate the type of cultural mindset that drives the labeling of an ethnic group as prone to criminality:
Many moons ago, there was an associate at a well known electronics outlet (associate, what they called their counter clerks) that spotted a teenager grabbing a stereo receiver off a stack and running out the front door. The clerk yelled out to the manager and ran after the thief. The clerk tackled the offender in the parking lot with the mall security just clearing the doors far behind. The thief suffered "road rash" to the face, knee, and arm. At the arraignment; the mother of the perpetrator of the theft screamed at the judge "He had no call to hurt my boy. He was only stealin'"


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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 7:00:18 AM   
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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 7:27:04 AM   
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it seems to me if you check most prisons they are filled with more blacks/wonder why


In what area? Which prison?
You may find many have a preponderance of Hispanics.

Which ethnic groups currently are in the majority among the poor? Poverty sows crime.
I still have this niggling suspicion that the preponderance of one ethnic group being incarcerated has more to do with the ethnic makeup of those in poverty than an overt attempt at racial discrimination.
Are you looking at a pattern of racial discrimination or a cultural meme that tends to anti social behavior? I've noted over the years that race has little to do with thug attitude. The ghetto gangbanger and the redneck klansman really sound a lot alike when you get rid of the racial specific epithets.
It is a unpalatable fact that the people in the front lines, seeing a majority of perpetrators of crimes being of one ethnic group, start seeing every person with a congenital suntan to be a potential criminal to be watched closely.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 7:30:53 AM   
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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 7:31:52 AM   
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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 9:08:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have flown like maybe 7 times in my life. Most before they got more strict due to 9/11.

I am white, blond, blue eyed, tall, dress pretty average....don't stand out to much other then height, and all but one time.........THEY WENT THRU ALL MY LUGGAGE at the airports. I must look like a serious smuggler or something. LOL. NO joke, Id watch people go right ahead, and me they pick to stand to the side to have my stuff gone through. I must have looked suspicious

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 9:30:12 AM   
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I have flown like maybe 7 times in my life. Most before they got more strict due to 9/11.

I am white, blond, blue eyed, tall, dress pretty average....don't stand out to much other then height, and all but one time.........THEY WENT THRU ALL MY LUGGAGE at the airports. I must look like a serious smuggler or something. LOL. NO joke, Id watch people go right ahead, and me they pick to stand to the side to have my stuff gone through. I must have looked suspicious

I know what you mean.

I got into a helluva verbal fencing match with three DEA agents in the middle of the Minn./St. Paul airport all because I had a ponytail and paid cash for a first-class one-way ticket to San Francisco. One thing they apparently don't like is when you tell them it's none of their fucking business where you're going or why.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 9:39:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LorraineCA

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25/macys-racial-discrimination-lawsuit-black-shopper_n_4164823.html

I've had this happen to me before too but not at Macy's. It's so humiliating and embarrassing. If people don't believe in the oppression of blacks by USA system, I hope they get searched just because of their race. Then they would understand how humiliating it is.

I don't understand why the above link doesn't work. You will have to copy and paste it to read the article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25/macys-racial-discrimination-lawsuit-black-shopper_n_4164823.html

If you truly believe blacks are oppressed in the USA then please explain how a black man with no pertinent education or experience got elected POTUS and his wife a black woman with no pertinent education or experience was hired as Vice-President of a major hospital?

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 9:46:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		By your definition everyone who was the president was inexperienced or had no pertinent education. A lot of presidents were formally senators (Nixon, Obama, JFK), and other presidents did other jobs. Just because they were never POTUS before their election doesn't mean they don't have a pertinent education or experience needed to be president.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 9:51:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LorraineCA

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25/macys-racial-discrimination-lawsuit-black-shopper_n_4164823.html

I've had this happen to me before too but not at Macy's. It's so humiliating and embarrassing. If people don't believe in the oppression of blacks by USA system, I hope they get searched just because of their race. Then they would understand how humiliating it is.

I don't understand why the above link doesn't work. You will have to copy and paste it to read the article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25/macys-racial-discrimination-lawsuit-black-shopper_n_4164823.html

If you truly believe blacks are oppressed in the USA then please explain how a black man with no pertinent education or experience got elected POTUS and his wife a black woman with no pertinent education or experience was hired as Vice-President of a major hospital?


Well, look at Washington, he failed his way to the top.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 10:10:44 AM   
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I have flown like maybe 7 times in my life. Most before they got more strict due to 9/11.

I am white, blond, blue eyed, tall, dress pretty average....don't stand out to much other then height, and all but one time.........THEY WENT THRU ALL MY LUGGAGE at the airports. I must look like a serious smuggler or something. LOL. NO joke, Id watch people go right ahead, and me they pick to stand to the side to have my stuff gone through. I must have looked suspicious

I know what you mean.

I got into a helluva verbal fencing match with three DEA agents in the middle of the Minn./St. Paul airport all because I had a ponytail and paid cash for a first-class one-way ticket to San Francisco. One thing they apparently don't like is when you tell them it's none of their fucking business where you're going or why.


Well ya crazy hippy IM surprised they didn't cut your ponytail off!!!!!! LOL

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 10:25:58 AM   
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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 10:28:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I looked in the Huffington Post for a White Voices section but I couldn't find one. Sounds a little racist to me.

I am always skeptical about the race card being played because whites do not have a race card to play. That too sounds racist to me.

We have a black president for fuck's sake. Are you fucking serious??

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 10:35:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		This subject is tough to comment on and not seem racist. In my town I am privy to arrest statistics. Well over 70 percent of all crime is committed by African Americans. They make up about 8 percent of our towns population.

So... you are a police officer well aware of what areas of town are affluent and the racial makeup of the areas. What do you do if at 3 in the morning you see a vehicle with African Americans slowly cruising an area where none live? In my town they pull them over and ask what they are doing... Is this racial or responsible policing? I say responsible policing.

BUT... there are reasons for the higher crime among blacks and if the same circumstances were to be prevalent in a white neighborhood there would be the same crime rate as with blacks.

So the bottom line there is still much discrimination, although getting better, and this still leads to higher crime rate. But I cannot blame the police for doing their job... They are there only to enforce the law which protects us not to change society... That is for US.

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RE: Blacks Get Searched Just Because Being Black - 3/4/2014 10:46:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LorraineCA

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25/macys-racial-discrimination-lawsuit-black-shopper_n_4164823.html

I've had this happen to me before too but not at Macy's. It's so humiliating and embarrassing. If people don't believe in the oppression of blacks by USA system, I hope they get searched just because of their race. Then they would understand how humiliating it is.

I don't understand why the above link doesn't work. You will have to copy and paste it to read the article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25/macys-racial-discrimination-lawsuit-black-shopper_n_4164823.html

If you truly believe blacks are oppressed in the USA then please explain how a black man with no pertinent education or experience got elected POTUS and his wife a black woman with no pertinent education or experience was hired as Vice-President of a major hospital?


How is Magna Cum Laude Harvard not pertinent? And double for the First Lady ie: Harvard, LOL. :)
Edited to add: Also Editor of the Harvard Law Review, are you kidding me? LOL anyway...

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