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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 5:49:32 AM

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What do you think Ben? I think he should at least get a C-? He is trying to understand this phenomenon. IT counts.

I will think about it.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 5:53:27 AM

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It is nice to be able to share this rather delightful film with someone who is also able to appreciate it.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 5:57:46 AM

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Kirata commenting on what GotSteel wrote in reply to chatterbox24.

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I have found it necessary to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith. ~Immanuel Kant

Is Kant "intellectual" enough for you?

That was a power quote.

You are right Ben, but don't be getting arrogant and haughty! LOL.
What you are right about I am sure, is that cute movie you had me view, wasn't just cute. You also told me that earlier in this thread. It had many elements of teaching in it and the movie didn't have any religion outwardly discussed, but the belief in God.
Einstein's character in the movie, as he was speaking to his intellectual companions said. "To Squeeze the mind, to make room for the heart" The movie was about destiny and a love affair between two people, and Catherine settling also. But that perfect balance between the mind and the good heart could be applied in many ways in life. All different kind of loves.

It seems likely that you are going to prefer to interpret the film in a New Age kind of way, but symbolically speaking the notion of not settling is a central tenet of Christianity.

I strongly encourage people NOT TO SETTLE. Is this not a new age Ben? The texts we read are ancient, but this is a new age. I said earlier in this thread I am old school, and I believe the ancient texts. I try to speak though, in a language others can understand, if they are struggling.
BUT BUT BUT
You are the professor of God, so feel free to direct me, if anything I say, you feel is purely wrong. I might argue the point, but if in the end it is said you are right, I will admit my error. Being right is highly over rated.

I would like to add, coming from someone who LOVES TO BE RIGHT.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 6:11:35 AM

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GotSteel gets a D for effort.

Marc2b got an F and failed the course.

That's only because we keep cutting this boring class to sneak outside, smoke some doobies and listen to my Bob Marley mix tape.

AN F!!!??? I think your being generous. G for God awful? I mean really, vile vile vile. Bragging about pounding his pud, to mind altering drugs, cutting class, posting degrading pictures of people peeing on graves! I mean really I wouldn't even do that to an ax murderer. IT is a reflection I would not want to see in a mirror.

This coming from someone who did a lot of drugs back in the day. But I can say one good thing. I like Bob Marley music, and his sons music Ziggy. I attended a ZIggy concert once which was wonderful.
Funny you like that music so much when he speaks of respect, one love, and power to the people. Hmmmm, think about that silly person.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 6:39:04 AM

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Now you must chase God since He is playing a game of tag with you.

You think an infant has to chase a parent? All they have to do is cry.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 6:50:55 AM

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Now you must chase God since He is playing a game of tag with you.

You think an infant has to chase a parent? All they have to do is cry.

I like this post. Thank you for posting BitaTruble.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 6:53:16 AM

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I think morality should be based arround basically "as long as it harms no ones life, liberty, or property its not wrong."

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 7:30:37 AM

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It is nice to be able to share this rather delightful film with someone who is also able to appreciate it.

It is good. I m going to quote from a book of devotions written in the early mid 1900. It was written by two listeners in England, who wanted to remain anonymous, and so was published under the name of another author, A.J. Russell.

First a verse from Mathew 18:19-20
If two of you shall agree on earth as touching anything that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

First page of the devotional

Between the years

Our Lord and our God, We joy in Thee. Thy help we could not face unafraid the year before us.

I stand between the years. The Light of My Presence is flung across the year to come--the radiance of the Sun of Righteousness. Bckward, over the past year, is My Shadow thrown, hiding trouble and sorrow and disappointment.
Dwell not on the past--only on the present. Only use the past as the trees use My Sunlight to absorb it, to make from it in after the days the warming fire-rays. So store only the blessings from Me, the light of the World. Encourage yourselves by the thought of these.
Bury every fear of the future, of poverty for those dear to you, of suffering, of loss. Bury all thought of unkindness and bitterness, all your dislikes, your resentments, your sense of failure, your disappointment in others and in yourselves, your gloom, your despondency, and let us leave them all, buried, and go forward to a new and risen life.
Remember that you must not see as the world sees. I hold the year in My Hands--in trust for you. But I shall guide you one day at a time.
Leave the rest with Me. You must not anticipate the gift by fears or thoughts of days ahead.
And for each day I shall supply wisdom and the strength.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 7:52:46 AM

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I think morality should be based arround basically "as long as it harms no ones life, liberty, or property its not wrong."

Being a good person is honorable. Caring for others is beyond honorable. You are right, and peoples differences should be respected. Who made us the authority, insisting people have to BE LIKE THIS AND THAT.

You may already know, I have no knowledge of that, but there is something out, even Greater then that.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 10:32:46 AM

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You never answered my question. The one about what you meant by "homosexual case."

Are you prejudice against homosexuals? Do you advocate the denial of their rights? Is that why you would get so bent out of shape over some well deserved trashing of that (former) walking used tampon known as Fred Phelps? God awful, really vile, vile, vile, pud pounding, mind altering drug using, class cutting degrading picture posting people would like to know.

I ask because I am not sure. I've gotten used to and have accepted the fact that most god believing people are very bigoted and cruel toward others who don't believe as they do. Still, as I said earlier, I do believe that if you only know a person through some posts on a message board then you only know a tiny piece of them . . . which means you don't really know them at all. For that reason I am willing to grant people the benefit out the doubt. For that reason I will seek clarification.

I just wish others would do the same.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 10:48:56 AM

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You never answered my question. The one about what you meant by "homosexual case."

Are you prejudice against homosexuals? Do you advocate the denial of their rights? Is that why you would get so bent out of shape over some well deserved trashing of that (former) walking used tampon known as Fred Phelps? God awful, really vile, vile, vile, pud pounding, mind altering drug using, class cutting degrading picture posting people would like to know.

I ask because I am not sure. I've gotten used to and have accepted the fact that most god believing people are very bigoted and cruel toward others who don't believe as they do. Still, as I said earlier, I do believe that if you only know a person through some posts on a message board then you only know a tiny piece of them . . . which means you don't really know them at all. For that reason I am willing to grant people the benefit out the doubt. For that reason I will seek clarification.

I just wish others would do the same.

I am not defending the man. He is a terrible example of what Christians represent. How he and his followers decided to get publicity is appalling. I am sure you have heard the saying, or will assume you have.
"No news is good news" There are people, good people, behind the scenes you don't know about, because they want zero recognition. It is pure sincerity. They too, know they are on journey, and they are not so silly to not listen to changes and directions and guidance from who they take orders from.
It isn't man either.
I believe in free choice, good and bad, and people being allowed to make those decisions. I should have choose my words better rather then "homosexual case"
We have strict laws that can be hard to follow. Excruciating at times. It pays off though, for us to follow those laws.
Trust me, I have my own problems I have to face and correct everyday, that allowed to myself, I would just fall into patterns that were not good for me, or others. I am not saying people should not have freedom of choice, but what I am saying is with good conscious and direction, I can not vote for things when asked, I simply do not have the heart for. I hope this helps to give understanding.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 2:34:00 PM

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chatterbox24 is the new TA.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 4:45:27 PM

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http://www.marypages.com/BrigittaEnglish.htm

Whoever recites these Prayers will attain the first degree of perfection.

I do not want any back talk about these are Catholic prayers; it isn't my style.

I have the following assignment. Go to http://www.marypages.com/BrigittaEnglish.htm and make a print out. Each time you complete saying all the prayers on the back make a hash mark.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 5:00:06 PM

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You may also want to record the date that you first started saying the prayers just because you may be curious about it years from now.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 5:16:44 PM

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You will need to staple the pages together.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 5:21:51 PM

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For those who want to talk about such topics as homosexuality and abortion, since Catholicism is orthodox as I've explained you don't get to have an opinion. Don't trouble the TA. I suggest that people who bring up such topics should be put on ignore. It is unlikely that you have been sufficiently trained to defend the position of the Church on these matters.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 5:27:07 PM

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Whats a TA?

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 5:35:12 PM

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Whats a TA?

TA stands for teaching assistant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_assistant

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 5:56:23 PM

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... as I've explained you don't get to have an opinion.

It is not for you to challenge it. You are to live it and reflect upon it.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 4/2/2014 6:43:40 PM

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Though a copy of the Our Father and the Hail Mary is provided you will need to copy them to a separate page until you have them memorized because you must recite them before each prayer.

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