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RE: Interrogation - 3/14/2014 6:31:44 AM   
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Interesting about facing the pain but never owning it. But I have to ask about a thread I read on here or perhaps it was on FL about rape. The first woman declared that she was raped by an uncle and then more and more women came forward and revealed they had also been raped. The rapes grew more horrifying with one woman declaring that she'd been raped half a dozen times, had her pelvis broken in one of the incidents and left for dead. The thread felt alarmingly competitive and I will openly admit that doubt started crossing my mind.

Doubt is one of the reasons people choose not to declare their inner trauma. Are we, the listener, going to put it down to histrionics ? and can they take that risk ? Remember beth from Merc and beth? she recently wrote a post on the other side about telling someone about her past and the person came back with, 'that was good but needs a little more work'. People who tell all take the risk of their truth being rejected and if part of their past trauma is 'rejection', I can't start to imagine how that would feel.

I think there are many dominants that need therapy but your right, to lead openly and with confidence you have to be free of any demons or at least like you said, 'own it'.


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RE: Interrogation - 3/14/2014 6:41:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AlexisANew

Interesting about facing the pain but never owning it. But I have to ask about a thread I read on here or perhaps it was on FL about rape. The first woman declared that she was raped by an uncle and then more and more women came forward and revealed they had also been raped. The rapes grew more horrifying with one woman declaring that she'd been raped half a dozen times, had her pelvis broken in one of the incidents and left for dead. The thread felt alarmingly competitive and I will openly admit that doubt started crossing my mind.

Doubt is one of the reasons people choose not to declare their inner trauma. Are we, the listener, going to put it down to histrionics ? and can they take that risk ? Remember beth from Merc and beth? she recently wrote a post on the other side about telling someone about her past and the person came back with, 'that was good but needs a little more work'. People who tell all take the risk of their truth being rejected and if part of their past trauma is 'rejection', I can't start to imagine how that would feel.

I think there are many dominants that need therapy but your right, to lead openly and with confidence you have to be free of any demons or at least like you said, 'own it'.



Because of the topic matter in the first paragraph, I would love it if you used that to start its own thread.





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RE: Interrogation - 3/14/2014 7:20:26 AM   
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DaddySatyr, I tried to send you a private letter but it looks as though your mail box is switched off?

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RE: Interrogation - 3/14/2014 7:36:14 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AlexisANew

DaddySatyr, I tried to send you a private letter but it looks as though your mail box is switched off?



Well, I've never had this name nor your original one blocked. So, the only two options I can think of:

1) You use another account that I do have blocked
2) CollarMe hates me (more likely)

ETA: I've checked my mail controls. You don't appear on my blocked list. I have no clue. I will try sending you one and see if you can reply?

ETAII: CollarMe is down. It's been doing that a lot, lately.





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RE: Interrogation - 3/14/2014 5:00:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pg4g


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LOL...right...


From re-reading his and your posts, you took everything SwitchBloke said, and turned it into something else.

He said he has trouble communicating.
You said he was being deceptive.

He said he held back cos he didn't want a dom to go through the motions for his sake. He wanted the dom to actually want to do it.
You said he was being manipulative.

He said he found someone pressuring him in an interrogative sense to be helpful to order his thoughts.
You said he had a kink and he was twisting his dom to do it. If he was twisting his dom, why didn't he even mention it? He said he wasn't mentioning anything at all! Specifically BECAUSE he didn't want a som to go through the motions for his sake.

You said this:
quote:

You said "he doesn't care". "My first Dom tied me to a chair and interrogated me". You stated in your OP LITERALLY that unless this Dom does the same you're going to purposefully miscommunicate until he fulfills this kink. It is incredibly dishonest and yes, you should come clean.

Actually, he didn't say that at all. He said that he couldn't form what he felt into words, it always came out wrong, or he'd only be able to get out the easy portion. That's not "purposefully miscommunicating" - that's being UNABLE to do so.

All I see is you taking everything he said out of context.


Can you please stop addressing me as if a one worded answer was an invitation to start a shameless display on the forum?
I'm above this type of nonsense and I choose to withdraw, thanks.

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RE: Interrogation - 3/14/2014 5:02:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

Many highly introverted people have trouble talking about their emotions, what they want, what's bothering them, etc. They may have a few things they can converse about (like a favorite hobby) but it tends to be an issue across the board when trying to communicate.

Even trained therapists can have a hard time with this type of person.

If this sounds like you, you're not alone.

I suggest buying a cheap notebook and calling it your journal. Write in it everyday, it can be basic stuff like where you went, what you ate, anything you can come up with. If you get in the habit, I think eventually you will find your journal is a place you can say anything to anyone.

I would make a point to keep that journal private, unless you come up with something you want to share with your dominant.

Over time that sharing *might* become easier.

As for wanting your dom to interrogate you, you could want that for a long time if you can't tell him about. I did get a bit of you thinking your dom should be able to read your mind about this. That's an unrealistic expectation in my book.






Very, very true. Yet I am an introvert and have no problem in "miscommunicating" or giving "half truths". It is a purposeful decision to do so or not. One laced into maturity in my view. Excellent advice. :)

< Message edited by GoddessManko -- 3/14/2014 5:19:10 PM >


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RE: Interrogation - 3/14/2014 5:19:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessManko
Can you please stop addressing me as if a one worded answer was an invitation to start a shameless display on the forum?
I'm above this type of nonsense and I choose to withdraw, thanks.


Why? Because everything I said logically and methodically pointed out where you were twisting every word he said? I don't need an invitation to speak. It's a public forum.

I feel for this guy. You insulted the heck out of him for nothing.

Just because you can communicate well doesn't mean he can. There are many disorders that cause this type of thing - I have one of them: Asperger's Syndrome.

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RE: Interrogation - 3/14/2014 5:20:15 PM   
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LOL...wow...

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RE: Interrogation - 3/14/2014 5:36:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

Many highly introverted people have trouble talking about their emotions, what they want, what's bothering them, etc. They may have a few things they can converse about (like a favorite hobby) but it tends to be an issue across the board when trying to communicate.

Even trained therapists can have a hard time with this type of person.

If this sounds like you, you're not alone.

I suggest buying a cheap notebook and calling it your journal. Write in it everyday, it can be basic stuff like where you went, what you ate, anything you can come up with. If you get in the habit, I think eventually you will find your journal is a place you can say anything to anyone.

I would make a point to keep that journal private, unless you come up with something you want to share with your dominant.

Over time that sharing *might* become easier.

As for wanting your dom to interrogate you, you could want that for a long time if you can't tell him about. I did get a bit of you thinking your dom should be able to read your mind about this. That's an unrealistic expectation in my book.


I agree, I'm a bit like this. I'm going to try journalling. I can get my thoughts out better writing them. Thank you.

To GoddessManko, you keep saying I didn't try and I was being deceitful, but I did try.

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RE: Interrogation - 3/14/2014 5:52:05 PM   
GoddessManko


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Glad you got helpful advice from this SwitchBloke. I hope you find a Dom where you can submerge yourself in your submission without expectations but there is definitely a level of comfort that you need and I understand. Being honest and forthright in this lifestyle is HUGE (TRUST,TRUST, TRUST), it is a bigger deal than in the vanilla world, so definitely work on opening up yourself more and I BET you will find the type of Dom that is more fitting for you as a result. :)
Best of luck! :)

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RE: Interrogation - 3/14/2014 6:56:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SwitchBloke

I agree, I'm a bit like this. I'm going to try journalling. I can get my thoughts out better writing them. Thank you.

To GoddessManko, you keep saying I didn't try and I was being deceitful, but I did try.

In addition to what ChatteParfaitt recommended about daily journaling is to incorporate brief accounts of your dreams. Dreams are a symbolic language which tap into the more creative and abstract right hemisphere of your brain. I wouldn't be concerned with trying to interpret them at this point in your life because that would over-stimulate the literal, concrete left hemispheric brain. Instead, lie completely still when you first awaken, preferably not to the sound of an alarm blaring, with your eyes closed. Picture a cinema screen in your mind where you can replay whatever fragments of your dreams you can recollect. Then jot them down in your bedside journal before starting your morning routine.

What's more important is to recapture your emotional responses at a feeling level in a few sentences. Did you feel anxiety? Confusion? Joy? Pleasure? Anger & frustration? Fear? Sheer Awe? Recording your feelings is what is paramount in order to get in touch with and keep in touch with your unexpressed emotions. As you make a habit of doing this, you will be filled with insights, and let these random thoughts flow--don't force your thinking to try to make sense of them. The language of dreams is a potent wellspring to draw from within your inner (subsconscious) resources. You are doing this for yourself, so no pressure.

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RE: Interrogation - 3/15/2014 10:35:13 AM   
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One reason males may frequently be noncommunicative is that they cannot identify their emotions. Do you know when you feel frustrated vs when you feel exasperated? Or do you lump all of them together under the anger umbrella?

If you yourself can't identify the wide spectrum of emotions, then it is indeed unfair to expect your partner to do so for you.

However you can buy charts with all of these emotions listed and then read through the definitions and write down past experiences where you've felt the individual ones. Which will help you identify them in the future.

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RE: Interrogation - 3/15/2014 10:39:03 AM   
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DesFip, I think the medical term for the disorder is called "Emotional Constipation".

Jus sayin
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RE: Interrogation - 3/15/2014 11:00:50 AM   
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This is very common in men - they find it hard to communicate. I only date the ones who can and are good at it as I am a words, verbal sort of person. I am very interested in men and love hearing all about them, what they feel and their lives. I don't think you should accept a relationship where your dominant is not interested in what is going on inside your head. They might as well have a blow up doll there or masturbate against a chair leg. Good communication makes the best relationships.

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RE: Interrogation - 3/16/2014 6:48:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SwitchBloke

Throughout my life I've always found it very difficult to put what I have to say into words. One day, someone tied me up to a chair and started asking me questions, sort of interrogating me. I found this very relieving... that someone was interested enough in me to go to all this effort to get to the bottom of matters.

I'm just wondering, am I alone in this?

My partner is dominant and won't ask me any questions. Just doesn't seem interested, and I feel bad volunteering stuff because it either comes out wrong or I only tell half of the truth... the half that isn't difficult to say. I feel like he lacks interest in me, that if he really cared he'd be pushing me for information, that he'd not be going "ok" to the few deep things I told him about my past that are very difficult for me to discuss, like abuse and stuff, and then the next moment acting like I'd just told him the sun is out outside.

Am I stuffed up for wishing the guy would push me, and interrogate me to get me to open up? And should I tell him about this, that it's helpful? I feel like I'm just basically telling a dominant how to get through to me, and he'll do it just cos I asked. Whenever I suggest things, he seems to just do them as a matter of courtesy. I feel like he'll be doing this as lip service... like if he cared he'd actually try and find out this stuff instead of having it handed to him.

Someone needs to date either LE or a Lawyer. :-)


Now me,I ask whatever I want. I'm somewhat ruthless about it in my own way too.
As in, I couldn't just do a fake interrogation scene, that wouldn't be me at all.
Buuuuuuuuut, when I want to know something, really wanna, then I'm pretty much relentless about getting to the root of things.I badger,I push,I prod and I don't relent.
I had a gal describe me once as, "That guy-give him an inch of an opening and he'll build an expressway large enough for a fleet of dump trucks to get
through."
Which is an accurate assessment.

Usually this involves more emotional and/or mental things than physical.

Now, that said, I have a law degree, spend time doing debate, worked on a crisis hotline and spent a bunch of years doing mental health so I'm pretty versed in how to manipulate words/actions/intent to get what I want.
Not to mention that I spend my days interrogating Government contractors, getting them to admit shit they are trying to hide

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