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Arturas -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 5:31:55 PM)
quote: That is not true. Don't speak as if you know who is in my social circle. I have many submissive female friends. I never said anything about "friends". You only know one submissive intimately and only what one submissive does on a first meeting. I know more than that. Knowing submissive female friends does not get you that information. Knowing a Dom who knows exactly what many do, does.

LadyConstanze -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 5:35:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: That is not true. Don't speak as if you know who is in my social circle. I have many submissive female friends. I never said anything about "friends". You only know one submissive intimately and only what one submissive does on a first meeting. I know more than that. Knowing submissive female friends does not get you that information. Knowing a Dom who knows exactly what many do, does. And some of them are just full of wind

MisterP61 -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 5:35:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: That is not true. Don't speak as if you know who is in my social circle. I have many submissive female friends. I never said anything about "friends". You only know one submissive intimately and only what one submissive does on a first meeting. I know more than that. Knowing submissive female friends does not get you that information. Knowing a Dom who knows exactly what many do, does. Maybe you are too dense to see this... so I will point out the foible here. That same argument applies to you. Do you think that because you are so Domly and all that you somehow know the true submissive better then a submissive female does. You know yourself only, by your argument. Seriously dude... WTF?

Arturas -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 5:45:00 PM)
So taking that further, if a new Dom "to be" wants information on what submissives might expect from them on their first date they must ask a Dom rather than a submissive, because they will get the pat answers that bear no relationship to reality except maybe with the one submissive and even then I am certain she will react in a way that surprises her in her next meeting with a great Dom and throw that wonderful "regulars" advice out the window and still come back here and echo the standard line to lurkers and newbies. Unless she is a strong woman she will fall in line with the regulars. I'm not saying this to make myself look larger or to make the submissive female "regulars" smaller, but I instead post the way I have seen it regardless of the "regulars" because the lurkers and non-regulars from the other side, the other side where Star and I met using this wonderful site, are important to me for some reason, perhaps because I identify with them.

angelikaJ -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 5:45:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: That is not true. Don't speak as if you know who is in my social circle. I have many submissive female friends. I never said anything about "friends". You only know one submissive intimately and only what one submissive does on a first meeting. I know more than that. Knowing submissive female friends does not get you that information. Knowing a Dom who knows exactly what many do, does. Numerous submissive women have stated that your experience of what submissive women want on the first (or second) date is not what they want. (Will someone please be kind enough to quote this; it seems as though I may be on his hide list as he hasn't responded to the other times I made this same point.)

Blonderfluff -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 5:47:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: That is not true. Don't speak as if you know who is in my social circle. I have many submissive female friends. I never said anything about "friends". You only know one submissive intimately and only what one submissive does on a first meeting. I know more than that. Knowing submissive female friends does not get you that information. Knowing a Dom who knows exactly what many do, does. AGAIN you have no knowledge of ANY of my intimate relationships. I have many many friends that I consider dear, close and intimate. I understand that this concept is probably foreign to you.

Arturas -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 5:47:36 PM)
quote: Maybe you are too dense to see this... so I will point out the foible here. That same argument applies to you. Do you think that because you are so Domly and all that you somehow know the true submissive better then a submissive female does. You know yourself only, by your argument. Seriously dude... WTF? Again with the cheap shot. While that sounds good that you ask submissive women, you forget they each only know what they think they will do and nothing really about the other female submissive but a Dom knows exactly what more than this whole room full of regulars have done. Who do you go to then?

Blonderfluff -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 5:48:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: That is not true. Don't speak as if you know who is in my social circle. I have many submissive female friends. I never said anything about "friends". You only know one submissive intimately and only what one submissive does on a first meeting. I know more than that. Knowing submissive female friends does not get you that information. Knowing a Dom who knows exactly what many do, does. Numerous submissive women have stated that your experience of what submissive women want on the first (or second) date is not what they want. (Will someone please be kind enough to quote this; it seems as though I may be on his hide list as he hasn't responded to the other times I made this same point.) For Angelica

littlewonder -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 5:49:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: That is not true. Don't speak as if you know who is in my social circle. I have many submissive female friends. I never said anything about "friends". You only know one submissive intimately and only what one submissive does on a first meeting. I know more than that. Knowing submissive female friends does not get you that information. Knowing a Dom who knows exactly what many do, does. Numerous submissive women have stated that your experience of what submissive women want on the first (or second) date is not what they want. (Will someone please be kind enough to quote this; it seems as though I may be on his hide list as he hasn't responded to the other times I made this same point.) I'll be more than happy to: Numerous submissive women have stated that your experience of what submissive women want on the first (or second) date is not what they want.

Arturas -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 5:51:01 PM)
quote: AGAIN you have no knowledge of ANY of my intimate relationships. I have many many friends that I consider dear, close and intimate. AGAIN, you ignore the point. I never said I know your intimate details but instead said YOU DON'T KNOW THE TRUE INTIMATE ACTIONS OF ANY OTHER SUBMISSIVE FEMALE and if you say you do you are fooling nobody but yourself. Whereas, I was there when many submissive females met me for the first time and know more than you what they do. You know one, yourself. I and other Doms know many more first hand. So you explaining to a Dom what submissive women do is interesting but simply not true.

MisterP61 -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 5:53:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: Maybe you are too dense to see this... so I will point out the foible here. That same argument applies to you. Do you think that because you are so Domly and all that you somehow know the true submissive better then a submissive female does. You know yourself only, by your argument. Seriously dude... WTF? Again with the cheap shot. While that sounds good that you ask submissive women, you forget they each only know what they think they will do and nothing really about the other female submissive but a Dom knows exactly what more than this whole room full of regulars have done. Who do you go to then? Awwwwww did I hurt you wittle feelings. You are making an argument that is exactly inverse to what you are telling submissives. Your argument consists of the submissive can only really know themselves, yet you know someone other then yourself. Sorry but you really only know yourself. And that is based directly off what YOU said. Cry all you want for calling you on your pure unadulterated bullshit, but I refuse to sugar coat shit and pass it off as candy.

Arturas -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 5:54:54 PM)
quote: I'll be more than happy to: Numerous submissive women have stated that your experience of what submissive women want on the first (or second) date is not what they want. Where? You mean here? I have had more women than have said that here and when you add up the other Dom's here who initially said what I said to the OP then you are in the minority and have no leg to stand on.

littlewonder -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 5:56:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: AGAIN you have no knowledge of ANY of my intimate relationships. I have many many friends that I consider dear, close and intimate. AGAIN, you ignore the point. I never said I know your intimate details but instead said YOU DON'T KNOW THE TRUE INTIMATE ACTIONS OF ANY OTHER SUBMISSIVE FEMALE and if you say you do you are fooling nobody but yourself. Whereas, I was there when many submissive females met me for the first time and know more than you what they do. You know one, yourself. I and other Doms know many more first hand. So you explaining to a Dom what submissive women do is interesting but simply not true. I would suggest you go back and count just how many disagree with you Arturas. So obviously she DOES know the intimate actions of other submissive females. The one fooling themselves is you my dear.

Blonderfluff -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 5:58:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: AGAIN you have no knowledge of ANY of my intimate relationships. I have many many friends that I consider dear, close and intimate. AGAIN, you ignore the point. I never said I know your intimate details but instead said YOU DON'T KNOW THE TRUE INTIMATE ACTIONS OF ANY OTHER SUBMISSIVE FEMALE and if you say you do you are fooling nobody but yourself. Whereas, I was there when many submissive females met me for the first time and know more than you what they do. You know one, yourself. I and other Doms know many more first hand. So you explaining to a Dom what submissive women do is interesting but simply not true. Okay. I'll speak slowly YES. I. DO. KNOW. WHAT. MY. FRIENDS. DATING. HABITS. AND. PRACTICES. ARE. Clear enough ??

ExiledTyrant -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 6:01:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas AGAIN, you ignore the point. I never said I know your intimate details but instead said YOU DON'T KNOW THE TRUE INTIMATE ACTIONS OF ANY OTHER SUBMISSIVE FEMALE and if you say you do you are fooling nobody but yourself. Whereas, I was there when many submissive females met me for the first time and know more than you what they do. You know one, yourself. I and other Doms know many more first hand. So you explaining to a Dom what submissive women do is interesting but simply not true. Whew! Now we get to go into final jeopardy! This first category is "/s's blown away by my Domliness" for $600.00 quote: Whoooaaahh Did I miss the part that I am back living with him? What? News to me, but then I'm the last to know. hmmmm Please put your answers in the form of a question. Second category "Shit my /s didn't know she was into" for $800.00 quote: HOLY fuck, since when was i into fisting... Again, please put your answers in the form of a question. Queue Jeopardy Music

UllrsIshtar -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 6:02:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: AGAIN you have no knowledge of ANY of my intimate relationships. I have many many friends that I consider dear, close and intimate. AGAIN, you ignore the point. I never said I know your intimate details but instead said YOU DON'T KNOW THE TRUE INTIMATE ACTIONS OF ANY OTHER SUBMISSIVE FEMALE and if you say you do you are fooling nobody but yourself. Whereas, I was there when many submissive females met me for the first time and know more than you what they do. You know one, yourself. I and other Doms know many more first hand. So you explaining to a Dom what submissive women do is interesting but simply not true. Have you considered the possibility of the fact that you self-selected the type of submissive you're interested in meeting, and that said type also happens to be the type who conducts first meetings in the manner you describe, but that other types of submissive females you would not be interested in dating (and they not in you) may not at all fall into that category. I happen to agree with you that the type of submissive you would be interested in meeting probably falls into the category who would not be interested in 'dating' on a first meet. I personally also fall into the category of woman who doesn't 'date' at all. I don't do vanilla interactions before establishing a kinky relationship, that chemistry is either there from the first meet or it will never be there. Nevertheless, all the submissives you are interested in have you, and your interest in them, in common and are therefore a very poor representative sample groups of what submissive women in general feel about first meets. If you find several other male Doms who fall for different types of women than yourself to collaborate your conclusion, they would become far more representative of submissive women in general than your current sample size is.

Arturas -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 6:02:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MisterP61 quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: Maybe you are too dense to see this... so I will point out the foible here. That same argument applies to you. Do you think that because you are so Domly and all that you somehow know the true submissive better then a submissive female does. You know yourself only, by your argument. Seriously dude... WTF? Again with the cheap shot. While that sounds good that you ask submissive women, you forget they each only know what they think they will do and nothing really about the other female submissive but a Dom knows exactly what more than this whole room full of regulars have done. Who do you go to then? Awwwwww did I hurt you wittle feelings. You are making an argument that is exactly inverse to what you are telling submissives. Your argument consists of the submissive can only really know themselves, yet you know someone other then yourself. Sorry but you really only know yourself. And that is based directly off what YOU said. Cry all you want for calling you on your pure unadulterated bullshit, but I refuse to sugar coat shit and pass it off as candy. I don't think so, I'm good. Of course I know someone other than myself, the submissive women I have been with. Many more than the regulars in this room. Not making myself special in this regard as I suspect other Doms have had as many over the years. I would think that self evident. If you are a submissive person you only really know what you do and the Doms you have been with but not the other submissive women and men because you were not there in their first meetings and they likely will not share everything with you no matter how close you think you are to them. But you can accept that simple and natural truth or not and it does not change things.

angelikaJ -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 6:08:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Blonderfluff quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: AGAIN you have no knowledge of ANY of my intimate relationships. I have many many friends that I consider dear, close and intimate. AGAIN, you ignore the point. I never said I know your intimate details but instead said YOU DON'T KNOW THE TRUE INTIMATE ACTIONS OF ANY OTHER SUBMISSIVE FEMALE and if you say you do you are fooling nobody but yourself. Whereas, I was there when many submissive females met me for the first time and know more than you what they do. You know one, yourself. I and other Doms know many more first hand. So you explaining to a Dom what submissive women do is interesting but simply not true. Okay. I'll speak slowly YES. I. DO. KNOW. WHAT. MY. FRIENDS. DATING. HABITS. AND. PRACTICES. ARE. Clear enough ?? You certainly know many of mine. But then again I tend to choose friends whose reading comprehension is fairly decent. [:D]

Arturas -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 6:08:26 PM)
quote: Have you considered the possibility of the fact that you self-selected the type of submissive you're interested in meeting, and that said type also happens to be the type who conducts first meetings in the manner you describe, but that other types of submissive females you would not be interested in dating (and they not in you) may not at all fall into that category. I have not. But I know it is too hard to find and make contact with a great submissive because of the competition let alone so many that react to me in a certain way. Because the odds of that rule that out, I think it unlikely that I would be so fortunate. You know how hard it is.

MisterP61 -> RE: i need advice (3/16/2014 6:09:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas I don't think so, I'm good. Of course I know someone other than myself, the submissive women I have been with. Many more than the regulars in this room. Not making myself special in this regard as I suspect other Doms have had as many over the years. I would think that self evident. If you are a submissive person you only really know what you do and the Doms you have been with but not the other submissive women and men because you were not there in their first meetings and they likely will not share everything with you no matter how close you think you are to them. But you can accept that simple and natural truth or not and it does not change things. OK. Let us talk about acceptance here then. You accept that you know how submissives act the first time you meet them, right? The why is it so hard for you to accept what all of the submissive people here are telling you? That they talk to each other... you know like you talk to all your Dominant buddies. And here is a clue and a half for you... they talk about more then "what a fine ass, tits etc she had" like men do. They get into every single detail down to what your shoes looked like. Sorry, I have a hard time with any male (Myself included) being the best people to look to for what women want.

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