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Justified use of deadly force


Prevent a rape
  16% (27)
Prevent bodily injury to self or family member
  17% (28)
Protect home from intruders
  11% (18)
Protect private property.
  3% (6)
Protect self from armed attack
  18% (30)
Protect self from attack
  14% (23)
Finding an intruder in your home
  8% (14)
Stop a trespasser
  2% (4)
Stop someone attempting to break into your home.
  5% (9)


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RE: Justified use of deadly force - 3/21/2014 3:55:15 PM   
freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Much better to put someone in the hospital because you don't have a gun than prevent the
violence in the first place because you do.

I don't agree with your synopsis.
Personally, I think you would have pulled the trigger and killed him.
And what's more, I think you'd be thinking you were perfectly within your rights to do so.

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RE: Justified use of deadly force - 3/21/2014 4:17:28 PM   
BamaD


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quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
And I wouldn't have had to fight him because it would have been fatal for him to attack me,
I would have made this clear to him and unless he is a dedicated candidate for a Darwin award.
Why is it that everyone who opposes guns turns out to be Superman?

And that is precisely why guns guns are dangerous - even in the hands of responsible and fully trained people.

I'm not superman either and don't pretend to be.
All I'm pointing out is that for a lot of scenarios, a gun just isn't necessary.
In the event of an accident, you with a gun would have gotten him killed and you would be thinking you were lawfully justified in doing so.
In my case, he had a very sore head but he still lived to face the consequences.
Unless I got very unlucky and he happened to die as a result of me hitting him, that's a completely different matter entirely.
But to routinely use a weapon that is pretty much guaranteed to cause a death to another human being, no matter how bad they are, is just anathema to me and completely uncalled for.
Whether a gun was available or not is immaterial; just the thought that I could very easily kill someone by using a deadly weapon instead of something more appropriate just makes me cringe.


I don't have accidents, and the law, not me would say I was justified.
You think it is wonderful because you won a fight, whoopee
I think it is good because on at least 4 occasions I have been able
to prevent a fight.
You have every right to handle these things the way you want,
but I have the same right.
You seem to be obsessed with "accidents" these are not the situations where
"accidents" happen.
Too many shootings occur because people wait too long before making the assailant
know they are willing to fight and are in the middle of violence before they act.
Presenting them with overwhelming force tends to take the fight right out of them.
I do not expect you to understand this line of thought, much less agree with
it but that doesn't make you right.
And if you can't cope with the thought of taking a life don't fight back at all
that broomstick could have killed.
And if you had lost your daughter would be dead too.
If I had killed the drug dealer my family would have been safe.

< Message edited by BamaD -- 3/21/2014 4:18:29 PM >


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RE: Justified use of deadly force - 3/23/2014 10:32:34 AM   
truckinslave


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[quoteJust that you appear to prefer to use sledgehammer tactics and draw a gun when in a lot of scenarios there is no need to.][/quote]

My mother is 82 years old and carries a gun.
Should she, too, rely on her fists and handy lumber for self defense?

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2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
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