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RE: chastity belts - 3/23/2014 10:58:56 AM

LadyConstanze

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With most of the devices you do get what you pay for, it has to fit to actually work, doesn't help if you slide out, doesn't work if you can't wear it because it doesn't fit and will rub you raw....

You want one where you can also take care of basic hygiene and all that. Buying one and it won't fit, you're really wasting money and since you said that's a problem right now, I wouldn't bother.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/23/2014 2:23:49 PM

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Rubber hose and pipe clamps can let you know what it "feels" like if that is what you are trying to figure out. Being in real chastity does cost money, unless you are good at making things. As for finding a key holder through an online site...you have to pay for most of those so without an income it more than likely isn't a very good idea. The site that UllrsIshtar gave you is very reasonable for picking up some things for self play, you should have taken a better look at it. As for the whole opinion thing about buying toys when you don't have a partner, I have to respectfully disagree with the lovely Lady Pact. I boy toys all the time. For me it doesn't matter if I am with someone or not. Things like whips, floggers, canes, can be practiced with without someone else there. I will admit though that I have an odd attraction to such things so for me it isn't a lot different than buying a sword or a gun. I might want it just because I have it attractive, even if I never use it on another person.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/23/2014 2:38:33 PM

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OK thanks for more input. Everything I'm reading is helpful.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/23/2014 2:51:05 PM

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As for the whole opinion thing about buying toys when you don't have a partner, I have to respectfully disagree with the lovely Lady Pact. I boy toys all the time. For me it doesn't matter if I am with someone or not. Things like whips, floggers, canes, can be practiced with without someone else there.

I think we disagree because those are the types of things that should be practiced with before somebody else is there. If I buy a toy that I'm not accustomed to, anybody who would let Me swing it at them before being familiar with it would be out of their mind. It's not like a chastity device where the concerns are on a singular person's comfort and fit. The only way to hurt another person with a chastity device would be if somebody threw it at them from across the room. I wouldn't exactly put that in the same category as a skill set.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/24/2014 12:57:01 AM

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Everything is moot without a job or income to pay for anything. I'm so sick of being dirt poor!

Better start thinking with your big head instead of letting your little head run your life.

Without income, you can't do sh!t. You can't afford the S&H charges for a FREE chastity device. It's not one size fits all either. You don't even know whether your future (figment of your imagination) Domme will approve of your selection. She may want you in a steel cage that you can't wiggle out of.

Please get both of your heads out of your arse. No woman, much less a Keyholder Mistress, is going to give you the time of day in your current straits.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/24/2014 3:01:30 AM

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Actually, LP, you can hurt someone with one without throwing it at them...though that has been a thought from time to time. Do to unexpected...swelling removing one can be harder than some might think. Those that play with teeth or maintainer should know what they look like, feel like, how to put them on correctly and remove them quickly from a member that might not be cooperative (for lack of a better word) Not to be insulting but, in my experience half the time a sub doesn't even know how to use one and they don't expect a dom/me to know either. Which just puts things in an area of danger that they shouldn't be. I truly do believe that if a domme is going to put a man in chastity she should at the very least do things like stick her fingers up against teeth and see what they feel like against her skin. She should also carry a device around for a day or so. If my opinion and if she can get away with it around her neck. Steel cages weigh more than some women are able to understand. Put one on a chain around your neck and carry it around for awhile then think about how uncomfortable a man would be with it around his junk. (advice not directly to you, I know you aren't into chastity, but to others who might not have thought it and want to try it) IMO almost all toys should be held, touched, used in one manner or another to find out how they feel before they are used on another person.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/24/2014 9:23:40 AM

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I was told about a site called keyholder...

Sounds like a pay site.

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Everything is moot without a job or income to pay for anything. I'm so sick of being dirt poor!

While it is tempting to console yourself with porn when things are not going well, I'm glad you have realized where your priorities lie.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/24/2014 10:08:36 AM

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yes, Key holder is a paid site just like 90% of all sites. You are limited to what you can do there but you can make contact with mistresses without having to upgrade.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/24/2014 10:29:35 AM

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ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain
Actually, LP, you can hurt someone with one without throwing it at them...though that has been a thought from time to time. Do to unexpected...swelling removing one can be harder than some might think. Those that play with teeth or maintainer should know what they look like, feel like, how to put them on correctly and remove them quickly from a member that might not be cooperative (for lack of a better word) Not to be insulting but, in my experience half the time a sub doesn't even know how to use one and they don't expect a dom/me to know either. Which just puts things in an area of danger that they shouldn't be. I truly do believe that if a domme is going to put a man in chastity she should at the very least do things like stick her fingers up against teeth and see what they feel like against her skin. She should also carry a device around for a day or so. If my opinion and if she can get away with it around her neck. Steel cages weigh more than some women are able to understand. Put one on a chain around your neck and carry it around for awhile then think about how uncomfortable a man would be with it around his junk. (advice not directly to you, I know you aren't into chastity, but to others who might not have thought it and want to try it) IMO almost all toys should be held, touched, used in one manner or another to find out how they feel before they are used on another person.

I must be coming across very poorly these last couple of days.......

You are correct that I'm not into chastity. Rather, I prefer orgasm control. In other words, "don't touch your junk without permission" seems to suffice. I figure, if I can teach a toddler to do that, I should be able to do so with a grown man.

I'm afraid I'm still a bit lost on how a device that is purchased before I ever come along has the potential to hurt Me. Of course, I'm talking about physically, here. Not the possibility of mentally because someone I actually care about has put himself in a poorly fitting device. I would hope that I would be cognizant enough to get something off of another human if his balls were turning blue. I'm pretty sure I've got a pair of wire cutters around here, somewhere.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/24/2014 10:54:14 AM

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I'm not an expert but have heard that depending on the belt, you need bolt cutters in some cases. Titanium is that strong.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/24/2014 12:27:50 PM

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I did not mean to imply it would hurt the person holding the keys but it can hurt the sub. Also the average set of wire snips won't go through a steel cage or a reinforced lock. You practice your things like floggers and whips so that you know you have control and won't hurt the other in a way that you don't intend to. The other, if he is going to put on a cage, should think about trying it out first. Test the weight, the discomfort, the ins and outs so to speak. The only reason I suggest that the person holding the keys do something like wear one of a chain around her neck for awhile is just so she has a better understand of how weight, sound, etc. can affect things.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/25/2014 8:30:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: mummyman321
Lady Pact,
Many subs usually buy their toys way before they ever find a Domme to use them. Its like getting 1/2 of the present. You have the toy you now cherish and you now dream of the Domme who will use it on you. I must confess, I had a mummy bag before I had a Domme to use it on me.

If you please......

Perhaps it is different because I am on the other side of the kneel. A whip? I know I have to be skilled in the art before another *person* ever comes along to use it. A collar? I would never buy that before the other person is in My life. It becomes cold and impersonal.

To Me, that's not the Domme. It's the ideal of a Domme and has nothing to do with the woman, herself, at all.

Edited for proper tense.

LadyPact,
Sorry I'm late joining this party, but I wanted to chime in here.

I agree with Mummyman. Lots of guys buy toys without a Domme. I can see why that concept would be foreign to you. But I don't think it's because you're on the Domme side of the kneel. Instead, I think it's because you don't have a penis.

I've tried to be very transparent in the past about how men think/feel/react in certain situations. This is one where I think that type of transparency is necessary. I believe you are operating from a false paradigm. IMO, you mistakenly believe that D/s and having a partner are relevant factors. But for many male subs, the driving force is their penis, and not D/s or the lack of a partner.

When it comes to chastity devices, much of the sensation is the same, whether you have a partner or not. That's why it's so easy for some male subs to have a long-distance (or imaginary) key holder.

Regardless of whether there is a partner, they still get 90% of the experience. They get to feel the device on their dick. They get to experience the bondage aspect. They get to feel the discomfort at night. They get to experience the sensation of thinking that everyone around you knows that you're wearing it. They have may have to sit when going to the bathroom. They are prevented from achieving erections and orgasms. Do you see where I'm heading with this? To paraphrase Tina Turner, "What's a Domme got to do with it?"

Stop thinking like someone who is used to having a partner, and instead, think like someone whose primary partner is their right hand.

Also, I'm sure that in the many BDSM organizations that you've belonged to, you've met many people who were into self-bondage, self-flagellation, self feminization, etc. In the absence of a female partner, many male subs are able to get along quite nicely. In fact, in some ways they may view it as a superior arrangement. After all, without a Domme, there's nobody to ask you to do chores while you're trying to focus on your penis.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/25/2014 9:58:22 PM

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Rochsub, that was a really good post. I hope you don't mind, but I found it very funny that the issue is that I don't think enough with My penis. Thank you for the laughter that ensued.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/26/2014 4:20:36 AM

LadyConstanze

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To be honest, Roch's post also made me think of something else, when somebody would ask me to do chastity play, I'd be a bit "baffled" if the guy would expect me to buy the cage so he can have his play....

Whips, crops and all the rest, different thing, those are all mine, mine, mine, but a cock cage, that's pretty specific and yeah, has to fit, apart from (maybe that's a very female POV) I would find it icky to put a device like that on different people, I mean I wouldn't like to wear somebody elses underwear...

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RE: chastity belts - 3/26/2014 7:05:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: mummyman321

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I never understand folks who want to lock themselves in chastity without a partner. It would be like Me carrying around a whip 24/7 with no one to hit.

However, there is some darn good advice on chastity devices that can be found through the search feature under the author name Rochsub2009. If I had questions about a device, that would be who I would go to.

Lady Pact,
Many subs usually buy their toys way before they ever find a Domme to use them. Its like getting 1/2 of the present. You have the toy you now cherish and you now dream of the Domme who will use it on you. I must confess, I had a mummy bag before I had a Domme to use it on me.

To the OP:
Try Amazon - Type in Chastity Devices. They have some fairly cheap
http://www.amazon.com/b?node=1243841011

yea I bought my first toy before I had met anyone. I got home and spent about 10 minutes hitting my leg (it was a small paddle) and imagining a mistress doing the same thing but that really wasn't much of a thrill all alone, so I stopped. Then I looked at it and thought, well that was a waste of money. At least until I meet someone to use it. Then I met someone, found out it wasn't anything she was interested in and found it was still a waste of money.

I have always been under the impression that chastity belts/cages were to stop the sub from playing with himself until the mistress says he can. If there is no mistress what is the thrill of not being able to do it. At least with the paddle I could cause pain, as useless as that was. With chastity all I can do is tell myself when it's ok to play with myself and I am just not seeing how that does anything for anyone.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/26/2014 7:12:16 AM

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Thanks for clearing that up. It makes much more sense now.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/27/2014 5:14:01 PM

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Thanks for clearing that up. It makes much more sense now.

IMO, the thing that you have to remember is that most "submissive" men aren't really submissive at all. The only one that they submit to is "Mistress Penis". She rules him with an iron fist. Her wish is his command. He will obey her above all others.

Think I'm wrong, just ask the average Domme what kinds of requests they get from "submissive" men. It's usually things like "Will you please cuckold me?" or "Will you force me to suck another guy's cock?" or "will you lock me up in a chastity device?" or "Will you humiliate me for having a tiny penis?". Notice that all of these requests are cock-centric, and not Domme-centric. The Domme in each case is Mistress Penis. She rules!!!!

If you think I'm wrong, just ask him to clean your garage or rake your leaves. Then you'll see just how submitted the "submissive" man really is.

Oops, gotta run. Mistress Penis just instructed me to go watch some porn.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/27/2014 5:15:46 PM

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Rochsub, that was a really good post. I hope you don't mind, but I found it very funny that the issue is that I don't think enough with My penis. Thank you for the laughter that ensued.

I'd like to see what you would be like if you DID think with your penis. That would be a scary thought. VERY scary.

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RE: chastity belts - 3/27/2014 5:18:03 PM

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quote:

or "Will you force me to suck another guy's cock?"

Was that your sock puppet writing that to me again?

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RE: chastity belts - 3/27/2014 5:29:36 PM

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or "Will you force me to suck another guy's cock?"

Was that your sock puppet writing that to me again?

Does that mean you WILL force me to suck another guy's cock? Yippee!!!!

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