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RE: My True Self - 4/1/2014 9:21:51 PM   
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RE: My True Self - 4/1/2014 9:22:02 PM   
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Taking you at face value, that you are genuine, here are my thoughts. As far as not knowing what you were, that is quite common, the stereotype of the little boy who knew he was a girl, always played with dolls, ran away from home and transitioned, while real, is not the only story. Some people go through life into middle age without knowing, some think they are crossdressers, others are seemingly normal men who bury deep down what they are (in technical parlance, they are often called type 1 and type II trans folks), so that part is not uncommon, and you are only in your 20's.

You need to take a deep breath, you are getting way ahead of yourself. It is quite common when you start getting an inkling of what you are to have the floodgates open, you suddenly see something and wow it is all talk of hormones, transition and so forth..and you aren't there yet, not by a long shot. It is a process, and it takes time, and you have that, finding this young in many ways is easier, before you have established careers and family and so forth......

It is a step by step thing, to make sure you know what you want/need, and it is often not that clear. People suggested counseling, and while therapy may be difficult, some therapist offer a sliding scale fee structure, and often LGBT centers offer counseling and support groups, and they are usually free or nominal charge and I highly recommend you check them out (I put a few of the links in your neck of the woods). Support groups are amazing places, and can help a lot to find what you are. A sissy sub is a bit different than someone who wants to fully transition and sees themselves as a women, gender is a very broad spectrum, and you don't really know until you go there. There will be doubts, and it takes exploring to figure out if you want to be a sissy, whatever that entails, whether you want to live as a woman but not get surgery, it all kind of happens as you explore. Maybe you'll find that you want to express your femme side part time, or be something of a gender bender, you don't know until you go there....you can be literally on the cusp of going full time as a woman, and for whatever reasons pull back (that is my story), everyone is different. You can't/shouldn't make decisions overnight, it just doesn't work like that, and in the heat of the moment, it is very easy to make bad decisions.

The net is a wonderful resource, there are a lot of websites out there, semi dating sites like urnotalone.com, tg forum, susans place. One note on the net, there also are a lot of people claiming they know what you are, and will tell you things like "of course, darling, you are a transsexual/transgendered", when that is bullshit..even a therapist doesn't tell you what you are, they help you figure that out, if a therapist ever tells you you are transgender and need to transition, walk the fuck out of the office, they are a quack; therapists help you work through things and decide.

It is important because it isn't easy, there is no other way to put it. You need to learn to accept yourself, because to be honest, it is quite common to sit there and think "how can I be like this? Am I nuts?". Plus you need to accept yourself because there are people who won't accept you, family members, friends, it isn't easy; some people will be wonderful and supportive, others you thought loved and cared for you will turn into Jerry Falwell over night, when they are usually someone far removed from that. Others will struggle to understand or accept it, but can come around, and understand, it isn't exactly an easy thing to comprehend for others. Therapists help with that, their primary job is helping you be happy with your decisions.

It also is expensive. To get rid of the male beard can take many hundreds of hours, depends on your beard density and such, typical is around 400 hours, and electrolysis is going to run you anywhere from 30-75 bucks an hour roughly (hint: find a school of electrology, lot cheaper). Some girls use laser hair removal, while it has come a long way, it still is not permanent the way electro is.

HRT (hormone therapy) can be expensive too, usually you are taking hormones and an androgen blocker, and insurance often will not pay for it (they will if they think it is treatment for a prostate, but with a young person at 20 something, they prob will balk). Some girls get hormones without a script by buying on the internet internationally, but that is playing russian roulette, you don't know what you are getting....and more importantly, hormones are not something to self med with, everyone is different, you need to work with a doctor on that, and please do, you can end up royally fucking yourself if you try self medding, you can end up with pituitary tumors, liver damage, cancer, blood clots, etc (and if you smoke, quit before starting HRT, smoking and hormones is a big risk factor). Put it this way, I was on what they considered a starter dose on HRT< and my endocrinologist wanted to cut me back, because my blood levels were very high......and hormones change you, a lot, we used to say it is what separated the women from the crossdressers, because when you take them it suppresses the sex drive, and someone doing this on a fetish level won't like losing the male drive, ability to get erections or to ejaculate.

And in the end, all the talking in the world won't solve it, it means exploring who you are and seeing where it takes you. Trans gals are often like 14 year old girls, excited by sexy clothing, makeup, getting their ears pierced, body piercings, and that is part of this, more than a few explore sexuality, BD/SM, having sex with men, women as a woman, whatever.....but you need to do it eventually, sitting talking doesn't do it. It means expressing yourself, learning to present as a woman, lot of questioning gals dress for support groups, or go out to safe spots like trans nightclubs, or to sympathetic gay or lesbian venues (if a gay club has a drag show, chances are you will see CD's or t gals there), eventually you may go to support groups, then go out for dinner with gals from the group, or start doing other things.....you may start out scared shitless (I remember being fully dressed for the first time, parked in front of a friendly women's bar in one of the more safe neighborhoods for LGBT people around, scared, literally shaking......2 months later, I was going to movies and such with friends dressed, riding the subway, etc..:).

Don't push it, explore it and take your time. Right now, you are questioning, and that is a good place to start, and eventually you will find what you need, whatever that is. If you are transgendered, then for many the ultimate goal is to transition and live as a woman, and though most will call themselves a transgendered woman, what they really want is to live their life as a woman and be treated as any other woman would (there are those who live differently, who relish being a 'transwoman' or whatever, who are open about it, which is fine, too)...lot of trans girls don't hide their past, but they also don't make a big deal about it, others try to go totally stealth, create a fictitious past, etc......but the key end point isn't a label, it is simply saying 'this is me'

Below are some links to things that may be helpful, groups in the northern Virginia/DC area, some general ones as well.

I wish you luck and good hunting.





http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/epidemiology/diseaseprevention/hotline/transrrlist.pdf
http://www.thedccenter.org/virginia.html
http://www.tgea.net/

www.susans.org

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RE: My True Self - 4/1/2014 9:38:08 PM   
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Thanks! I will take your advice. I am not gonna esplicitly act like a woman, i am gonna continue acting like me. Heck, i might even be a tomboy. I want to look like a girl and be a girl, i want to be seen as the same as i always been, but as a she.

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RE: My True Self - 4/1/2014 9:48:23 PM   
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lauren's post above is beautiful. Some things I'd like to add, from secondhand experience:

She said "You need to learn to accept yourself". That's not an instant thing. I've known one MtF who's accepting herself more lately than before. She's been on HRT six years, and it's not 100% acceptance.

HRT does weird stuff. Assuming that pre-transition you're attracted to women, HRT will do one of several things:

1. No change.
2. You become attracted to men and become either bi or exclusively attracted to men.
3. As lauren suggested above, loss of drive.

The good news for you is that you're young. The younger you are, the better your body will take to transition.



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RE: My True Self - 4/1/2014 9:57:03 PM   
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Right now i consider myself somewhat of homosexual, in that im attracted to mtf non ops. I want to eventually find a loving DommeNon (dominant non op mtf) one day, but im in no rush. Im ok with my penis, i dont want to get rid of it, but i also want to be very femine and a girl. I aint attracted to men, but i think penis loooks sexy. I love womens body, but vagina for some reason just doesnt exite me. Im sorry im wierd.

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RE: My True Self - 4/2/2014 10:05:34 AM   
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Don't be sorry for being you. Everyone has self-doubts, and sometimes needs some outside assistance to settle themselves internally. Granted, you're conflicted now, nothing unusual when you're young. And what Lauren said should become a sticky somewhere. I'd take what was said to heart, and go from there. You're not weird, just different. We all are, conformity is boring.

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RE: My True Self - 4/2/2014 10:19:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman

Don't be sorry for being you. Everyone has self-doubts, and sometimes needs some outside assistance to settle themselves internally. Granted, you're conflicted now, nothing unusual when you're young. And what Lauren said should become a sticky somewhere. I'd take what was said to heart, and go from there. You're not weird, just different. We all are, conformity is boring.


Yes, agreed. Please take Lauren's advice before making bold decisions. I agree with FeralFoxy also that you should get some therapy to help you figure out what you truly want and will make you happy and you can settle your internal conflicts.

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RE: My True Self - 4/2/2014 12:45:02 PM   
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There is one thing for absolute certainty, im confused. I think deep down i just want to be made femine and crossdress, but my body right now is not feminine. I waznt born with the feminie features some transgenders are born with. I dont have a baby face so i need HRT so my body can be more femine. Its not a sexual thing. Is it wrong i want to look and act like a girl, but not care if someone callsme male. I just so confused. I really need therapy but fatchance on me getting any.

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RE: My True Self - 4/2/2014 1:38:46 PM   
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Sweetie, you keep asking if it's wrong or almost apologizing for things. You know what...it's your life and you have nothing to apologize for. You have to live the life YOU want to live and be who YOU are. If it's non-OP transgender, so be it. This is a very personal decision that only you can make. Embrace it, don't apologize for it.

I haven't really ever said so, but NJLauren happens to be one of my fave posters because I get a really good understanding of subjects that I don't know a lot about. This one about transgender issues was stellar in my honest opinion. FeralFoxy also knows their stuff when it comes to transgender issues. Both have given great advice. Just take it step by step and your heart will guide you on whatever path you choose.

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RE: My True Self - 4/2/2014 2:48:53 PM   
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Sweetie, you keep asking if it's wrong or almost apologizing for things. You know what...it's your life and you have nothing to apologize for. You have to live the life YOU want to live and be who YOU are. If it's non-OP transgender, so be it. This is a very personal decision that only you can make. Embrace it, don't apologize for it.

I haven't really ever said so, but NJLauren happens to be one of my fave posters because I get a really good understanding of subjects that I don't know a lot about. This one about transgender issues was stellar in my honest opinion. FeralFoxy also knows their stuff when it comes to transgender issues. Both have given great advice. Just take it step by step and your heart will guide you on whatever path you choose.


Im just was afraid that if i said i dont have gender identity issues and just want to be a sissy crossdresser bisexual with hormones, people would think im only doing it for sex and/ or to be a ladyboy porn star. Im too shy to do porn, even amatuer. ......though Cobalt Rose does sound like a hot and original porn star name. Who know how much confudence i will have when this change is done. I use to like vagina and despise penis. Now i have sexual dreams about servicing penises. I dont know myself.

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RE: My True Self - 4/2/2014 7:20:26 PM   
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quote:

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Sweetie, you keep asking if it's wrong or almost apologizing for things. You know what...it's your life and you have nothing to apologize for. You have to live the life YOU want to live and be who YOU are. If it's non-OP transgender, so be it. This is a very personal decision that only you can make. Embrace it, don't apologize for it.

I haven't really ever said so, but NJLauren happens to be one of my fave posters because I get a really good understanding of subjects that I don't know a lot about. This one about transgender issues was stellar in my honest opinion. FeralFoxy also knows their stuff when it comes to transgender issues. Both have given great advice. Just take it step by step and your heart will guide you on whatever path you choose.


Im just was afraid that if i said i dont have gender identity issues and just want to be a sissy crossdresser bisexual with hormones, people would think im only doing it for sex and/ or to be a ladyboy porn star. Im too shy to do porn, even amatuer. ......though Cobalt Rose does sound like a hot and original porn star name. Who know how much confudence i will have when this change is done. I use to like vagina and despise penis. Now i have sexual dreams about servicing penises. I dont know myself.


As others have said, there is no right and wrong, only to find what make you happy and allows you to live. Will there be people who judge your choices? Yes. Are they right? No. Someone might tell you the cost of doing something, the possible issues, but in the end they have no more knowledge of what is right than anyone else. Want to know a not so secret secret? Lot of trans folks judge each other, there will be trans gals who would judge you if you wanted to be a crossdresser taking hormones or a sissy or whatever, saying that hormones should be reserved for 'real trans gals' or some such.....when I made the decision to revert after being on the cusp of going full time, for some very strong and personal reasons (basically, it wasn't just about me and it was about understanding consequences and such), I did what I thought was best, and I took a load of shit from people I never expected it from, I even stopped seeing my therapist because they made me so ashamed.(the therapist didn't make me ashamed, lot of other people did).....I was fortunate to have some good friends who had my back and loved me for who I was and could understand my decision, and that helped me......but judgement can come from all over. I have regrets every day about my decision, I look at other women, young, pretty, plain, dressed in jeans and a sweater and looking like a tired mom, or a glamourous woman wearing incredible stuff, older, and what i see that they all have is being themselves; but I also see the results of my decision, what it has allowed to happen, and I cannot let it make me bitter, though it is kind of like seeing the promised land and not being able to go there, every day.....

There is also reality out there, and you will face that, too. Someone who wants to look femme when dresed but wants to live as a male can have problems, HRT can make massive changes to the way you look, and it can be pretty obvious what is going on....some people do that just fine, but it can be risky, and you will have to think about things like how will you support yourself? It is a nice fantasy to dream of finding a well of dominant to 'own you' and keep you as a sissy slut whatever, but ask yourself, is that real if that is what you are thinking? It is why it is so important, not to ask questions, but to actually live into them, you won't know what you want until you experience it, there is no roadmap, no magic spell. The links I sent have resources in your area, the biggest step you can do is look at them, call them up and see what they have, some of the hardest steps I took were getting up the nerve to go to a support group for questioning people, where you will see everyone from trans folks living full time, to crossdressers, to drag queens, to almost anything, and it is so valuable.....what usually happens is you will gravitate towards certain people, and that will tell you a lot. I figured out what I was in part because when I heard people tell their stories, when I talked to people, if their story resonated with me, it told me what I was feeling by seeing their feelings in front of me. It is hard to get there in part because deep down, it is natural to be afraid, thinking 'what will I find if I go there?" I told myself the fear was of others judging me, of not fitting in, but mostly i think I was afraid to find out:).

As they say, a journey of any size starts with the first step out the door......these days with sliding scale or even free counseling, where LGBT centers like Callen Lourde in NYC can make getting what you want possible at little or no cost, there may be ways to find that dream..but you need to see what is out there to do it. I hope you find yourself, anything you do to find yourself, whatever that is, will make your life better:)

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RE: My True Self - 4/2/2014 7:23:47 PM   
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I plan on living like i always do. I have a mix of masculine and feminine personality traits. I am not gonna explicitly act more femine, though i may be more open.

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RE: My True Self - 4/2/2014 7:36:51 PM   
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Have you had any medical tests run lately? If not you might wanna think about getting a checkup. It sounds to me like you are confused and this could be for tons of different reasons, one being there is something physically wrong with you, such as a testosterone or hormone imbalance or something else that is physical. That would be my first step. After that, a therapist. You should be able to get one through your college. Lots of clinics and therapists also have sliding pay scales. And no, your family doesn't have to know anything unless you end up using your parents' insurance. If you do, your family doesn't have to know the reasons. Just tell them you were not feeling well and had some work done or you were stressed out from classes and needed someone to talk to.

But definitely check with a doctor.

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RE: My True Self - 4/2/2014 8:33:38 PM   
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One of the things im worried about is the HRT will go wrong. That i will be disfigured. Or that i might change my mind (right now im sure but who know how i will feel in a couple of months) and thus be called a liar on the forums and never be trusted again.

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RE: My True Self - 4/2/2014 8:48:17 PM   
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I think you really need to figure out what you are, what you want. I can't tell from the posts you have made if you want to be an androgynous person, a femme male, it is hard to tell, and without that, you can't know what to do. To be honest, you are way away from hormones or anything that can be permanent. One thing you have to know is hormones work slowly, it isn't fiction where the guy takes a magic pill and has D breasts a month later, plus when you take HRT they start you off slow, and even at full dose, it takes a while to see big changes...and it also takes a while before anything that happens is permanent. It is why I say everything is a process, it happens in steps. You should't attempt HRT until you know with some certainty what you want, and to be honest, it may be hard to get someone to prescribe hormones if you don't even know what you want. The standards are a lot less strict than they once were, but if your goal is to be more feminine appearing without doing much else, not sure someone would prescribe them. More importantly, you need to do the work first, you need to figure out if you need them, want them, or want to go through physical changes like that. Yep, people do the work, think they want HRT, go on them, and then decide it isn't for them, and that is cool, but they did the initial work.

As far as what people on the forums think of you, that is not a great reason for doing something or not, though there are people behind these screen names and pictures, we aren't God, we don't control anything about you, and in the end, while we may have some impact on your life, we aren't in it.....the whole process of finding out who we are as people, whether dom/sub, genderfucked or trans, bisexual, homosexual or tri sexual, or whatever, is often a process of trial and error, and people change all the time. New a guy who spent a large part of his life as a man's man, raised a family, did all the right things, then when the kids were out of the house, decided to transition and became the owned slut sub of a well off guy (yeah, lot of fiction around that, she did it for real, looks incredible after a lot of surgery and such),people change all the time, albeit not so drastically. Few people choose the perfect path every time, or at all, and there is nothing shameful in trying something and finding it didn't work; the only shame is in not trying, or in continuing to try something that fails.

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RE: My True Self - 4/2/2014 10:02:01 PM   
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I of course know this wont happen in a month. Or a year. Or hell, even a decade. But its good to set a goal.

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RE: My True Self - 4/6/2014 5:57:16 PM   
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I really hope i can get some therapy soon. My head is spinning. Im very confused. On one hand, i really want tonbeva girl. On the other hand, i been in this body for over 21 years. Not sure if i am young enough to start. And it probably be 10 to 15 years before i officially start, so it might be too late.

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RE: My True Self - 4/6/2014 6:55:45 PM   
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That is a great place to start. You can get things sorted out and talk about all of the things that are going through your mind. Do you go to college? If you do, you might want to check with whatever LGBTQ organization your school has available. Many schools do have something like this and it can be a great resource

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RE: My True Self - 4/6/2014 7:04:58 PM   
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That is a great place to start. You can get things sorted out and talk about all of the things that are going through your mind. Do you go to college? If you do, you might want to check with whatever LGBTQ organization your school has available. Many schools do have something like this and it can be a great resource


I dont go to college. Trying to. Part of me is thinking this might in fact be depression, and wanting to be a girl is just my responce. Sometimes being transexual is real the desire is real. Other times its a phase. No matter what the bigots OR politically correct say, both are possible. Which is why i REALLY need therapy to see if my wanting to be a girl is true or the diguise of a deep mental problem.

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RE: My True Self - 4/6/2014 7:23:09 PM   
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I totally agree with you. Sounds like you have questions and concerns as to your motivations behind why. And it's great you are trying to get some guidance to figure things out. It's never too late if that is where your heart and soul leads you. Its just a matter of figuring out where exactly your heart and soul are leading you . Just take it step by step...one little step at a time.

Lao-Tzu once said that "a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step"

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