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Tkman117 -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/9/2014 8:03:23 PM)
I'm sorry?

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/11/2014 1:27:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 I'm sorry? Well, finally.

Musicmystery -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/11/2014 2:23:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata . But why worrying over global warming is so predominantly a Democrat pastime seems open to speculation. Arguing "stupid Republicans" doesn't explain why worry over global warming isn't eating up many Independents either. Anyone have any views on that? K. Cart and horse, chicken and egg. People concerned about global warming are more likely to be Democrats/liberals, and people favoring industry over the environment are more likely to be Republican, while people without strong leanings are likely to be independent. Then there's the wording of the poll. I wouldn't say I "worry" about it -- I don't worry about much of anything these days. But I do think it's an area that deserves concern and action.

Tkman117 -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/11/2014 3:40:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 I'm sorry? Well, finally. If you knew anything about the english language you'd that was meant as a confused statement, I know comprehension isn't you're strong suit, but it's not THAT hard [8\|]

Kirata -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/11/2014 7:48:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 If you knew anything about the english language you'd that was meant as... [8\|]

thishereboi -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/11/2014 7:55:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 Science such as climate change isn't political, it's science. The fact that libs support action to mitigate its effects just shows where their values are, not that they're trying to take advantage of people through misinformation. Believe what you want, but the fact of the matter remains that this is how the world works. If you can't handle it, then go back to your bible and you'll get all the comfort you need from that [8\|] No it's not political, so why do you keep bringing up cons when you talk about it? and now you are going to bring religion in as well? Perhaps you could try discussing facts and quit trying to show everyone how superior you are.

Kirata -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/11/2014 8:04:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi No it's not political, so why do you keep bringing up cons when you talk about it? and now you are going to bring religion in as well? Perhaps you could try discussing facts and quit trying to show everyone how superior you are. Interesting post over at Climate Nuremburg: Part of being a science communicator is hoping a natural disaster kills as many members of the audience as possible, as soon as possible, with as much media exposure as possible. As a communicator myself, I’d like nothing better than for thousands of middle-class white people to die in an extreme weather event—preferably one with global warming’s fingerprints on it—live on cable news. Tomorrow. The hardest thing about communicating the deadliness of the climate problem is that it isn’t killing anyone. And just between us, let’s be honest: the average member of the public is a bit (how can I put it politely?) of a moron. It’s all well and good for the science to tell us global warming is a bigger threat than Fascism was, but Joe Q. Flyover doesn’t understand science. He wants evidence. K.

Tkman117 -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/12/2014 8:14:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 Science such as climate change isn't political, it's science. The fact that libs support action to mitigate its effects just shows where their values are, not that they're trying to take advantage of people through misinformation. Believe what you want, but the fact of the matter remains that this is how the world works. If you can't handle it, then go back to your bible and you'll get all the comfort you need from that [8\|] No it's not political, so why do you keep bringing up cons when you talk about it? and now you are going to bring religion in as well? Perhaps you could try discussing facts and quit trying to show everyone how superior you are. Discussing facts??? LOL, I have posted page after page of facts on other threads, and I can link to them again if you're feeling like learning something. And ya I'm bringing up cons and the ultra religious because they're the only ones who deny this stuff due to sheer ignorance and a desire to maintain the status quo. The only reason why I'm making it political is due to the fact that cons already have. I want things to get done, actions to be taken, not stuck in political and social gridlock because a few wealthy donors spread misinformation through media and politicians to keep their constituents stupid and placid so they can maintain their wealth. What facts have you brought to the table? .... oh ya, none [8\|]

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/12/2014 5:06:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 I'm sorry? Well, finally. If you knew anything about the english language you'd that was meant as a confused statement, I know comprehension isn't you're strong suit, but it's not THAT hard [8\|] I'm just spit balling here but, I'm guessing what you meant to say was: "If you knew anything about the English language you'd understand that was meant as a confused statement, (period...not comma...comma's are used to continue a sentence...your sentence, of course, ended with the word "statement") I know comprehension isn't you're (your...."you're" refers to what you'd opt someone to "do" or "be", "your" would of course be a word that refers to someone else...as in the person you refer to....that being....myself) strong suit, but it's not THAT hard (period). *(You're correct...it's not at all that "hard"....however...I suspect "difficult" was the word you were actually seeking but....who's counting :) ?).*

Tkman117 -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/12/2014 5:15:09 PM)
Lol, and here I thought I was the grammar nazi [:D]

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/12/2014 5:16:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 Lol, and here I thought I was the grammar nazi [:D] Hey...we all have our days.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/12/2014 5:18:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 If you knew anything about the english language you'd that was meant as... [8\|] (Sorry...I had no choice but to take it further. It's a crushing burden I actually have no choice but to live with).

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/12/2014 5:24:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 Lol, and here I thought I was the grammar nazi [:D] (Nazi is, for the record {correctly}, capitalized).

Tkman117 -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/12/2014 5:31:21 PM)
lol, you get what I mean [:D]

servantforuse -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/12/2014 5:44:25 PM)
Back to the original question. I do not worry about it. Not for a second.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/12/2014 5:50:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 lol, you get what I mean [:D] It's the drugs...I swear. Be happy...you spelled "it's" correctly.

Tkman117 -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/12/2014 5:53:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse Back to the original question. I do not worry about it. Not for a second. And that's totally fine, but it becomes an issue when people deny it's happening and stand in the way of action to mitigate it's impacts on human life and on the economy in the years and decades to come.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/12/2014 6:39:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse Back to the original question. I do not worry about it. Not for a second. And that's totally fine, but it becomes an issue when people deny it's happening and stand in the way of action to mitigate it's impacts on human life and on the economy in the years and decades to come. Look, there are a variety of very intelligent people (on both sides of the debate....some funded by global warming wanna bee's, others funded by oil, nuclear, et al) who all have a very specific opinion (and one they would most dearly love you to share with them...because it benefits them....not you). Think "sit ins", celebrities, people you respected, admire.....what did that make you want to do? REACT!!!!! THAT'S what they WANTED you to do!!!!! That is what 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the population (that would be you by way of %) is doing as we speak....instead of educating themselves....they're (you're) feeding themselves with pablum, just as you're fed....not unfortunately, with history (as you can discern yourself....all by yourself...with no influence from ANY outside source). (BEFORE you PATENTLY respond without reading the entire post......read the ENTIRE post). Did you know (this is actually verifiable fact, now 50 years later...the oil companies admit it) that nearly all the nuclear 'sit ins" to dissuade the general public's opinions on nuclear energy...were funded by the oil companies? I wonder why that would be? (Here's a thought: They wanted you NOT to use nuclear energy...and to use more oil). Did you know that sun spots actually cycle (you know how to use Google...anyone that "demands" links will be shot...you're all intelligent enough to do your own homework) and that we're in a particular cycle that portends a cooling cycle within 3 - 5 years? Did you know that all of the chemicals we're now fearful of have been 50 - 75% higher in history (with cooler global temps) than they are today (than in the past)...and the oceans didn't rise? Ooooops. Now....with all that said (and all you crazies foaming at the mouth...take a chill pill....continue reading)....we can do better. This is ACTUALLY the FIRST time these events (specifically known chemicals in the atmosphere) have been THIS high and MOST ASSUREDLY CAUSED by man wherein which not only did WE cause them but WE can actually lower them...and we should. We are the FIRST generation of humans who can actually change this by our actions....and we should. But....global warming is NOT being caused by man (nor is global cooling). It's being caused by our solar system. But.....we aren't helping. (And neither, quite frankly, are the alarmists). Let's insulate and stop blaming. Let's drive less and quit insinuating. Let's add solar panels and dry our clothes outside. And let's (all) READ!!!!!!!! (A place I would recommend starting would be.....HISTORY). I don't believe that Kansas is going to be ocean front property any more than I believe that New York will be frozen soon and our new national capitol will be moved surreptitiously to Guadalajara. What I do believe is; we can do better. And we're the first generation of all human kind that can. Blaming fallacious bullshit instead of facts is the first step to finding a bad solution.

Tkman117 -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/12/2014 6:53:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse Back to the original question. I do not worry about it. Not for a second. And that's totally fine, but it becomes an issue when people deny it's happening and stand in the way of action to mitigate it's impacts on human life and on the economy in the years and decades to come. Look, there are a variety of very intelligent people (on both sides of the debate....some funded by global warming wanna bee's, others funded by oil, nuclear, et al) who all have a very specific opinion, and one they want you to share (with them). Did you know (this is actually verifiable fact, now 50 years later...the oil companies admit it) that nearly all the nuclear 'sit ins" to dissuade the general public's opinions on nuclear energy...were funded by the oil companies? I wonder why that would be? Please clarify, dissuade the public's opinion in favour or against nuclear? Because there's a good few reasons for either. quote: Did you know that sun spots actually cycle (you know how to use Google...anyone that "demands" links will be shot...you're all intelligent enough to do your own homework) and that we're in a particular cycle that portends a cooling cycle within 3 - 5 years? Yes I do know that there is an 11 year sunspot cycle. Did you know that this cycle isn't long enough for the climate to react fully to a change in insolation, and did you also know we are in the most inactive solar cycle scientists have seen in a very long time? The whole sunspot argument is a moot point when you consider it's actual impacts on climate. quote: Did you know that all of the chemicals we're now fearful of have been 50% higher (in cooler global temps) than they are today in the past...and the oceans didn't rise? Yes, I did know that. It was to compensate for the fact that the sun in previous time periods was much less luminous than it is today. Different continents and different climate back then. Sea level has risen and fallen numerous times in the past for a variety of reasons, melting and accumulation of glaciers/ice sheets being the major reason, as seen by prehistoric proxy records from coral. quote: Now....with all that said (and all you crazies foaming at the mouth...take a chill pill....continue reading)....we can do better. This is ACTUALLY the FIRST time these events (specifically known chemicals in the atmosphere) have been THIS high and MOST ASSUREDLY CAUSED by man wherein which not only did WE cause them but WE can actually lower them...and we should. We are the FIRST generation of humans who can actually change this by our actions....and we should. I agree completely quote: But....global warming is NOT being caused by man (nor is global cooling). It's being caused by our solar system. And here is where you are clearly and completely wrong on the science. Understand what is happening with the sun and then get back to me. Unless you for some reason believe that a planetary alignment is the cause, in which case you should probably go back to school. quote: [b]We aren't helping.[/b] (And neither, quite frankly, are the alarmists). Let's insulate and stop blaming. Let's drive less and quit insinuating. Let's add solar panels and dry our clothes outside. And let's (all) READ!!!!!!!! (A place I would recommend starting would be.....HISTORY). History is a good place to start, the history of climate, which requires a wide scope view, not nit picked details. To understand the history of climate you need to understand how climate functions first of all. And you sorely lack that understanding I'm afraid. But on all other points I couldn't agree more [:)]

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Who Worries about Global Warming? (4/12/2014 6:56:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse Back to the original question. I do not worry about it. Not for a second. And that's totally fine, but it becomes an issue when people deny it's happening and stand in the way of action to mitigate it's impacts on human life and on the economy in the years and decades to come. Look, there are a variety of very intelligent people (on both sides of the debate....some funded by global warming wanna bee's, others funded by oil, nuclear, et al) who all have a very specific opinion, and one they want you to share (with them). quote: Did you know (this is actually verifiable fact, now 50 years later...the oil companies admit it) that nearly all the nuclear 'sit ins" to dissuade the general public's opinions on nuclear energy...were funded by the oil companies? I wonder why that would be? Please clarify, dissuade the public's opinion in favour or against nuclear? Because there's a good few reasons for either. quote: Did you know that sun spots actually cycle (you know how to use Google...anyone that "demands" links will be shot...you're all intelligent enough to do your own homework) and that we're in a particular cycle that portends a cooling cycle within 3 - 5 years? Yes I do know that there is an 11 year sunspot cycle. Did you know that this cycle isn't long enough for the climate to react fully to a change in insolation, and did you also know we are in the most inactive solar cycle scientists have seen in a very long time? The whole sunspot argument is a moot point when you consider it's actual impacts on climate. quote: Did you know that all of the chemicals we're now fearful of have been 50% higher (in cooler global temps) than they are today in the past...and the oceans didn't rise? Yes, I did know that. It was to compensate for the fact that the sun in previous time periods was much less luminous than it is today. Different continents and different climate back then. Sea level has risen and fallen numerous times in the past for a variety of reasons, melting and accumulation of glaciers/ice sheets being the major reason, as seen by prehistoric proxy records from coral. quote: Now....with all that said (and all you crazies foaming at the mouth...take a chill pill....continue reading)....we can do better. This is ACTUALLY the FIRST time these events (specifically known chemicals in the atmosphere) have been THIS high and MOST ASSUREDLY CAUSED by man wherein which not only did WE cause them but WE can actually lower them...and we should. We are the FIRST generation of humans who can actually change this by our actions....and we should. I agree completely quote: But....global warming is NOT being caused by man (nor is global cooling). It's being caused by our solar system. And here is where you are clearly and completely wrong on the science. Understand what is happening with the sun and then get back to me. Unless you for some reason believe that a planetary alignment is the cause, in which case you should probably go back to school. quote: [b]We aren't helping.[/b] (And neither, quite frankly, are the alarmists). Let's insulate and stop blaming. Let's drive less and quit insinuating. Let's add solar panels and dry our clothes outside. And let's (all) READ!!!!!!!! (A place I would recommend starting would be.....HISTORY). quote: History is a good place to start, the history of climate, which requires a wide scope view, not nit picked details. To understand the history of climate you need to understand how climate functions first of all. And you sorely lack that understanding I'm afraid. But on all other points I couldn't agree more [:)] Google is your friend.

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