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obombacare is a giant tax - and it contains more print then the tax code.
If you had actually take the time to READ, the Affordable Care Act (all 2409 pages of it), you would understand its not a giant tax. Actually its the creation of a logistics engine that creates four separate classifications of insurance instead of the thousands that were in existence between the bill became law. Cuts down on the court's time trying to handle things equally with just four rather than over a thousand uniquely designed insurance policies. The law spells out specifically what happens if a citizens does not have an insurance plan. An only the most clueless would go without such a plan the higher in age they get. Since its been observed in medical science that the human body does experience a wide variety of conditions as it exists through decades.
Also, its YOUR responsibility (as a citizen) to know what bills are being passed into laws in this nation. If your allowing someone else to do that job, then in effect, they are telling you how to think and reason. Since you'll never check on the information, they can give you totally bogus material. Not a wise thing when it comes to your healthcare...
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ORIGINAL: Paladin9
80% of black voted for obomba the first time 90% the 2nd time.
For 2008, it was 95% for Mr. Obama. For 2012, it was 93%
However, in each election BEFORE 2008, 100% of white people voted for a white guy. And when blacks were allowed the right to vote as freely as anyone else, they voted for a white guy in each election.
Maybe you should get your bullshit, updated with the facts. Just saying.....
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ORIGINAL: Paladin9
The man is a puppet.
This coming from someone that has shown he lets others do his thinking, reasoning, and understanding for him....
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ORIGINAL: Paladin9
The question everyone should be asking is why did the dumocrats pick a unknown senator to run for potus? Do they know something we don't - like our votes are not really counted. Picking such an unknown is without president.
Many liberals and moderates (and even a few conservatives) liked his keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention. After that, Democrats started 'grooming' him for a national race. It came down to two Democrats for the nomination: Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama. Two people, representing two specific minority groups in America. Mr. Obama became liked by many for being up-beat, intelligent, educated, and many good ideas (not just of the wrongs in our society, either).
BTW, the party is called 'Democrats'. This is a forum, not a text chat on your smartphone; Its the President of the United States of America. Do try to show respect for the position, regardless of who sits within it, ok?
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ORIGINAL: Paladin9
Want an sample of what obombacare will be? Go visit a VA hosp or a American Indian reservation.
The Affordable Care Act has nothing within the VA hospitals. That would be handled under the Defense Budget. Go talk to the Republicans; its their fault those hospitals are in sad shape!
You do not sound like the sort of individual that could handle an in-depth explanation of how public and private hospitals do/are operating under the ACA. Its pretty hellishly long, that assumes you have a college degree at the minimal to understand the subtly parts. The 'rant' you made, is not of someone with a college education.
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ORIGINAL: Paladin9
Ever wonder why gasoline in europe costs per liter the same as a gallon here? Social programs inc govt health care.
This has nothing to do with the topic. In fact, it has nothing to do with the United States of America. Heck, there is nothing here that links what happens elsewhere to the United States.
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Austria has a 20%, yes twenty, sales tax to help pay for social programs.
You do FAIL at google.com searches apparently....
The 'sales tax' for Australia is 10%.
The amount of taxes in Australia is lower than other nations.
So who does your thinking for you? Because its apparently not you....
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ORIGINAL: Paladin9
obombacare has zero price controls.
If you actually had done your responsibility and read the law, you would know whether this is true or not.
The Affordable Care Act Its been around for over three years now, what's your excuse for not reading it?
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Medicare is govt controlled and forced enrollment govt employees are exempt. The premiums keep going up as do the co pays. Co pays, In the last couple of years blood tests went up 33%, some medicines 100%, eye glass coverage $100 every 2 years is now $50 every 2 years,
And those costs going up would be due to the industry, NOT, the government. Its funny that you give the industry a blank check while bashing the government at stuff its not responsible for. You must like that 'conservative nanny state'.....
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ORIGINAL: Paladin9
IF obombacare is so great why aren't the govt, unions, boeing, McDs required to enroll?
Yet again, if you actually READ the law, you might understand that your question was answered three years ago. Each of these groups have healthcare insurance plans that are legal under the law. Those employees can take the insurance policies offered by their employers or seek one from the exchanges in their state/area. those required to enroll under the law, would be those that do not have a healthcare insurance offered through their employer or some other entity (i.e. Massachusetts with Mass Health).
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The difference between the Ds and Rs can not be seen with a electron microscope.
Like you even know what an electron microscope is, let alone know how to use one correctly with this 'rant' of yours. Republican/Tea Party wants to undermine, if not destroy this nation (i.e. the Partial Government Shutdown in Nov. of 2013). Democrats have been trying to help the nation out of a very bad economic recession that could have been a depression (thanks to the 'wisdom' of the Republican/Tea Party).
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DEFUND GOVT
Yeah, had the Republican/Tea Party been successful at fully shutting down the US Government, its fair to say it wouldn't be the tourism business that was angry at them. ALL The industries in America would have been against them. And a good percentage of the nation (say 80%, rough guess), would oppose them. Since that would mean federal paychecks to all public sector employees would stop. All contracts to private businesses big and small would stop. Tell me, how much do you think the United States buys/maintains with each $100 Billion in spending?
There would have one or two hundred million Americans that were EXCEEDINGLY pissed off at the Republican/Tea Party. Enough to throw ropes over trees and hang 'em all dead! Why do you think the Speaker of the House and many Republicans told the Tea Party to go to hell (its in the history books)? They (the Republicans) saw the writing on the wall, and decided going down the path of 'clown car Tea Party idiots' was not in their best interests. All Democrats have to do, is show the individual members that were in favor of doing financial harm to citizen's wallets to throw those idiots out of office this election.
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