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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/10/2006 6:24:36 PM   
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A buddy of mine in IE speaks of a desire for the entire  Ireland to be its own country. He went into a spiel about potatos, England treating IE like slaves, refusing them autonomy. He mentioned to plight of the IRA. He says England took the best areas for itself- leaving the less desirable parts to be independent.

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We do not treat the irish like slaves lol


I think pahunkboy that if you asked your Irish friend again he'd tell you that the talk of potatoes is to do with the famine, potatoes were the main food of the average Irish person then and when a blight hit and the crop was wiped out the people starved, they were kicked off their small holdings for not being able to pay the rent and many died. Some who could afford it made the trip to America on what became known as coffin ships and hence one reason why there are so many Irish Americans.

The slave reference would be probably to do with the fact that tho' at that time we were supposedly part of Britain it was more that we were under British rule and very little was done to help the starving.

The Easter rising of 1916 when a small group of men took over the GPO (general post office) was what led to Southern Ireland regaining its independance, the northern counties weren't kept because they were better but because there was a stronger presbyterian influence there.

When it comes to football we have separate teams, The Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland ....in rugby we play together as Ireland.

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/10/2006 6:27:09 PM   
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Hang on the term half bath was used when we were looking at houses in the US .... and all the water ran out.........


What's called a "half bath" here is called a water closet in the rest of the civilised world. :)

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/11/2006 4:56:29 AM   
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Uhhh, folks, I'm not talking about the wording or the phraseology.  I'm talking about the fact that a fucking hotel room without a toilet is even an option.


I dont know how long it is since uve been in the U.K but every hotel has en suite - the only places that dont are the occasional guest house at the seaside where you share with others on your same floor. These are not hotels. I personally wont stay anywhere that doesnt have its own bathroom.
 
On another note a mate of mine stayed in a motel in America where she shared her bathroom with a family of cockroaches - now if i had to decide between a shared bathroom or sharing with a family of insects i know which id choose.

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/11/2006 5:02:16 AM   
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have eatin at a wimpys .
 
Lol we havent had wimpy since i was about ten. Its burger king and mcdonalds.
 

they are about to have an economic melt down over their Euro dollar ... fuck it all . I say we get drunk and screw

We dont have scabby euros - we use are mighty pounds and pence lol
 

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/11/2006 5:32:53 AM   
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Just out of interest would it bother you if Scotland, England, Wales and Irelands football teams merged into one?


You can take all the rest, just leave My boys (Celtic) where they are and of course Rangers for us to give a good kicking to and no-one will notice the diffrence. After all, they are the only two teams worth taking notice off north of the border


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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/11/2006 5:35:28 AM   
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Are they sheep?

If they were. the Scotsmen would have imported them already.


Bloody merkins can't even get THAT right, It is Wales where the men are men and the sheep are nervious!

The only thing a sheep has to be nervious of in Scotland is someone deep frying it!


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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/11/2006 5:37:12 AM   
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We dont have scabby euros - we use are mighty pounds and pence lol


New fangled moneys! Bah! Bring back the GROAT!


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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/11/2006 7:00:07 AM   
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The slave reference would be probably to do with the fact that tho' at that time we were supposedly part of Britain it was more that we were under British rule and very little was done to help the starving.

When it comes to football we have separate teams, The Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland ....in rugby we play together as Ireland.

Oumae


At the time of the famine, Ireland was a net exporter of food. The government was locked into lassez faire ideology and thought that interfering in the market would make matters worse. While it is often portrayed that while the Irish were starving the average Englishman was eating scones and drinking tea, this was not true. The industrial revolution was in full flow, the average English person having had to migrate to the new cities to find work and were living in squalor and had a very short life expectancy. Most of the food in the cities was adulterated, sanitation barely existed. The government and capitalists who governed this state of affairs were as likely to have been Scottish Welsh or Irish as aopposed to English. My great grandfather came over from Ireland to London in 1848, the year of another cholera outbreak in which 15,000 people died, a death rate of 50%. That was famine proportions and it was not the only city of such outbreaks. If the people that governed this country couldn't see what was under their noses they couldn't see what was out of sight. That is the price of ideology.

As for the Irish football team, as Keane said, it is full of plastic Irishmen ie. Englishmen with an Irish grandmother.

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/11/2006 7:16:25 AM   
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How'd the American team do in football? The Pittsburgh Steelers won the Superbowl.
As for soccer perhaps they should remove the goalies to make it more exciting.
Wasn't it Winston Churchill who said about Britain and America; "we are two countries seperated by a common language."

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/11/2006 7:33:59 AM   
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I thought that quote was made by George Bernard Shaw but I have also seen it attributed to Churchill.

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/11/2006 9:56:47 AM   
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I'm dubious about my ability to properly slam the United Kingdom, but as it was pointed out that my serious post will only offend, I feel the need to at least try. We will stick with the hotel theme. Please be so kind as to pass this on to your convention and tourism organizations, whatever they may be called.
 
We stayed at the Radisson May Fair in London, which is supposed to be a five-star hotel. A few quick points.
 
1. When you stay at a $300 a night hotel in the United States, you get a suite. For those not familier with the term, a suite has multiple rooms, including one where you would sleep, and one you could just hang out, watch television, eat, etc ...
 
NOTE: If you have to sit on your bed to eat, you are in a crappy hotel ... no matter what you paid.
 
2. A dresser is a place to put your clothing, likewise a closet serves the same function. Taking into consideration that people paying that much for a room will probably not be wearing the same clothing every day ... please consider actually having enough room to hang/fold and store at least a weeks worth of clothes. It's a pain in the ass to have to live out of suitcases. Everyone knows your are a tourist a mile away, because all your clothes have suitcase fold lines all over them.
 
3. Combine #1 and #2 ... when you only have one room, and you have luggage all over it, you look like you came to London for the baggage handlers convention.
 
NOTE: Have enough room for people to store their crap. Have a place for them to put EMPTY luggage. Have a closet that has enough room for a weeks worth of dresses, and for the love of God, three hangers is about ten too few.
 
4. If you are a hotel, there is an expectation that actual travellers may be staying there. Exactly 22% of these travellers may be American. We found this out earlier, in some very mean-spirited posts. Americans take lots of showers, and many of them don't use the same towel again, and again, and again. If you shower when you get up, then walk around London all day, you may want to shower again before you eat, in which case your towel from the morning will still be wet. Dry towels, dry. Wet towels don't.
 
NOTE: Have enough towels for a person to take more then one shower a day. I realize that some American are like compulsive clean freaks and may take as many as three showers a day. If that's not acceptable, please name your hotel the "Radisson, No Fucking Clean American, May Fair Hotel."
 
NOTE #2: If you call down to the desk to ask for more towels ... NO, I didn't just grow a third eye in the middle of my forehead, and YES, I actually want some. NO, you don't have to say, "Miss, you need more towels?" and YES, I do understand that housekeeping left towels this morning.
 
Note #3: The towels (actually it was towel) that is folded in the cabinet is the CLEAN towel ... all the others are the DIRTY towels. Housekeeping should take the dirty ones away, and make sure they replace them with an EQUAL number of clean ones. This will ensure that guests don't have to repeat the steps taken in NOTE #2, every day.
 
FINAL NOTES ON TOWELS: Towels shouldn't be that complicated: lots, clean, dry, daily!!! I know we didn't cover that at the UN ... I guess we thought people could figure it out on their own.
 
5. Roomservice in the UK sucks. All they have is fried shit, fish on a cracker and little fried things with whipped cream in them. It's completely impossible to get fruit delivered to your room in the UK. You could go buy some food, but since you don't have a second room, you don't have a small refrigerator to keep it in.
 
NOTE: If you order roomservice breakfast, it will come with some dark stuff in a small bowl, that looks like chocolate. I don't know what it is, but it isn't chocolate. I should have asked during my daily towel call, but I didn't. Whatever it is, by international law it should have a biohazzard symbol on the bowl. Warning, do not eat it, under any conditions. I think it may be some kind of laxative. If it isn't, it should be.
 
6. Don't knock on my door, EVER. When you knock on my door while I'm sleeping in a strange place, it scares the shit out of me and I'm likely to scream. This isn't the Holiday Inn. A hotel this expensive is supposed to know when you are gone, and send the cleaning people then. You are the country that could detect the whole fucking German airforce. I'm sure you can keep track of one American girl.
 
OK ... that's the best I can do. Sorry for offending you earlier with my serious comments.

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/11/2006 10:33:16 AM   
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I pissed myself laughing at your post. I have stayed in 30 - 40 hotels in the U.K and have never come across a hotel as bad as you mention. You may get a suite over there for $300 which is the equivalent of approx £162 but over here you would pay a lot more than that for a suite. In London $300 a night would get you a basic room.
 
Consider the price you paid and the price you'd pay for a suite over here and that tells you why you had only one room and had to eat on your bed (note here my heart bleeds for you on that one). Closet space again you booked a room not a suite so wardrobe space is bound to be small.
 
The towel issue despite you obviously thinking us Brits are dirty we tent to shower 2 - 3 times a day too and i cannot believe you picked a hotel that only left you one towel. Every hotel i have stayed in here has left 2 -3 clean daily.
 
Imagine a hotel with 300 plus rooms - keeping an eye who and who isnt in the hotel room at one time is a little difficult. It is considered polite here for the cleaning staff to talk when entering. If you are that nervous a knock on the door frightens you maybe you shouldnt travel lol.
 
Room service - you can get anything you want from lol. Either you picked a really bad hotel or you travelled here a long time ago.

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/11/2006 10:56:23 AM   
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Miss, everything is much BIGGER here in the U.S.
I stayed in a gigantic suite in Boston once for about $270 for the night.
The roads are bigger, cars are much bigger. I had trouble getting into and out of those rental cars in England and Ireland, like being in a tuna fish can! And what is it with the sidewalks over there, some of them are only wide enough for one person to pass at a time.
As for towels there's usually about 6 in hotels and even motels here, big puffy terry cloth ones plus face clothes and a bath mat to put on the floor.

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/11/2006 11:02:23 AM   
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Well i look forward to staying in your fine hotels buttttt you want a suite here you pay through the nose for it. You are all used to your bigger stuff im used to my stuff smaller a bit like myself at 5ft 4 lol.

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/11/2006 12:02:27 PM   
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My trip was last summer, and just to be clear, I had a wonderful time in your country. It was the best vacation ever and I can't wait to come back.
 
I think we actually paid a hell of a lot more for our rooms in London. I wasn't the one paying, but I'm pretty sure it was a lot more. I used the $300 figure for an American hotel suite, because that is about right for very high quality hotel suite where I live. I don't even know if we have hotels in Houston that cost more.
 
Now, on the towel thing.
 
I was doing a little of your English exaggerating with the one towel thing (I actually had two big towels and one hand towel) ... but I'm sorry, two to three clean towels every day isn't going to cut it. I have a body, hair, and I don't walk in my bare feat on someone else's floor tile. Call me Polly Prissy Pants, but THREE towels is enough or ONE shower. In virtually any nice hotel in America, you will have ten to twelve clean towels at your disposal, daily. And no, I don't think you're dirty people ... not at all. You are just towel challenged.
 
Perhaps we can help ... charge and up-towel fee.

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/11/2006 12:31:00 PM   
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Polly Prissy Pants....

We got to make the beast and you just GOTTA say that to me.

Hi, I am Polly Prissy Pants...(I will be underdog or something).......

LOL..

such a vision.

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/15/2006 6:02:04 PM   
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caitlyn - loved the post, some comments in no particular order -
Size of room - the UK is roughly the size of Wyoming but with 60 million people living in it. Compare that with the US and the % proportion of the UK you rented for $300 dollars was massive compared to the % proprtion of the US you get when you rent a suite.........I've just got back from Nebraska and paid $100 (£57) for a room with 2 double beds fridge the size of a garage and a "whole" bath room (the bath was only half size though).  

London Hotels - never, ever, ....absolutely ever............stay in a London Hotel. In this context I mean within the M25 ring road. If you have a 0600 morning meeting and were at the Theatre until 11pm the night before you still never ever, EVER, stay in a London Hotel.......cost, size, run down (even the good ones), space, fighting at Breakfast, "bloody tourists (LOL)" etc  are the main reasons...... 

There is one very uncivilised aspect to most US hotels / motels. ...lack of  a bar in the hotel, or within walking distance of the hotel......... this is clear evidence of lack of full cultural civilisation on the western side of the Atlantic b(or I may just have discounted rate with the wrong chains). In the UK nearly all Hotels have a bar which for residents continues to serve alcohol until you want to finish drinking. This is one of the few good reasons for running training curses in the UK rather than the US ...... of course this view depends on whether you are a delegate or the company sponsoring the delegates...!!  

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/16/2006 5:24:39 AM   
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Glad you liked the post.
 
Everything about alcohol in the United States is annoying. I guess the hotels think you should be in your room having sex.

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/16/2006 6:19:17 AM   
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Caitlyn,

Basically I agree with your take on British hotels.  I think they really suck compared to hotels in other countries, including other countries in Europe.  But here's a good rule to remember the next time you're traveling.  If your hotel has the name "Radisson" in it, it's not a five-star hotel, no matter what they tell you.  Ritz Carlton?  OK, now you're talking, that's five stars.  Four Seasons, that's five stars too.  Radisson isn't going to be five stars.

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We stayed at the Radisson May Fair in London, which is supposed to be a five-star hotel.

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RE: Minority but what the Hell lol - 7/16/2006 6:34:37 AM   
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Three towels for ONE shower? Yikes! And all of them need to be replaced after each use? Double yikes!

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