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We had a situation where are 4 wheeler was stolen out of our barn in the middle of the night. We called the police and gave the Vin numbers. We had no descriptions of people nor vehicles. Two vehicles were pulled over carrying 4 wheelers. The first vehicle pulled over was innocent, and I am sure they were not really happy about it, it was an inconvenience. The second vehicle pulled over was carrying the stolen property, and the man behind the wheel had just been released for doing this same thing previously. Theft.

I was pulled over about 10 years ago and my car searched, due to an armed robbery of a convenience store, where the vehicle matched mines description, but they had no plate numbers. Was it a little embarrassing? Yes. What else were they suppose to do in that situation? I minded but I understood their position.

My step nephews truck was pulled over by an anonymous call with plates, the report was the vehicle was waving a gun at passers on the interstate. He had his daughter with him. They had them lay along side of the road, and his 14 year old daughter to search the vehicle. No gun was found. Considering the job he does, that would be the bad apple call. A vengeful call. Now who was responsible for that injustice? The caller or the police.

It goes both ways. People are going to have different opinions.

Then of course there is "my cousin vinny"

LOL. or the God father. You know him too?

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

You ask any police department What is their biggest problem.... It's the resources to get the job done with.

That is all those punkassmotherfuckers ever do is snivle about wanting more money.
All the crime stats say that helicoptors do not lower crime yet every cop dept "needs" one...same same "swat team"



Every time they turn around some city Council has to make budget cuts someplace.

Perhaps if the politicians (chief of police is a politician) took a pay cut???


Rarely is the Police Department or the fire department off the table from cuts.

The only cuts to fire and police I have seen here in california is sometimes they try to consolidate ineffeciencies but I have never seen them cut significantly.

Here in Minnesota, after over 30+ years, they finally got a tornado warning system that's actually automated
with the National Weather Service, the previous GOP federal administration had turned them down.....

Vote the rascals out.

Almost any Police Department will tell you they can always use more men (and women ) to get the job done... And better updated equipment,....
And to me the police should have just as updated weapons as the military does. No Police Department should be outgunned by the bad guys....

Just when have the "bad guys" outgunned the cops?
Should the cops have flame throwers,grenades and machine guns?



I find it completely and totally insane that John Q Public can go to a gun show and get more firepower in three days than most police departments have or can get budget approval to buy in years.

Any validation for this idiotic nonsense?

There are people who raise private money just so that police dogs can have body armor!! There's no reason for that!!! when police dogs are just as valuable assets to the of to a department
as any other member of the team.

Perhaps the p/o might buy a few of those instead of a new helicoptor or a limo and driver for the chier?

Training costs money too...... in this case, training in how to deal with a public that's becoming more diverse every year

Any validation that our society is becoming more diverse rather than less?

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

if your wealthy friends would just get off their ass and give enough police officers, decent wages, and the resources police departments deserve to have, there would be no need for profiling in the first damn place.

Cops here make over 100k per year. There does not seem to be any shortage of money just a shortge of cops who want to actually do police work.

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We had a situation where are 4 wheeler was stolen out of our barn in the middle of the night. We called the police and gave the Vin numbers. We had no descriptions of people nor vehicles. Two vehicles were pulled over carrying 4 wheelers. The first vehicle pulled over was innocent, and I am sure they were not really happy about it, it was an inconvenience. The second vehicle pulled over was carrying the stolen property, and the man behind the wheel had just been released for doing this same thing previously. Theft.

I was pulled over about 10 years ago and my car searched, due to an armed robbery of a convenience store, where the vehicle matched mines description, but they had no plate numbers. Was it a little embarrassing? Yes. What else were they suppose to do in that situation? I minded but I understood their position.

My step nephews truck was pulled over by an anonymous call with plates, the report was the vehicle was waving a gun at passers on the interstate. He had his daughter with him. They had them lay along side of the road, and his 14 year old daughter to search the vehicle. No gun was found. Considering the job he does, that would be the bad apple call. A vengeful call. Now who was responsible for that injustice? The caller or the police.

It goes both ways. People are going to have different opinions.

Then of course there is "my cousin vinny"

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

http://sfpublicpress.org/news/2012-08/san-francisco-police-chief-to-be-nations-highest-paid-for-overseeing-14th-largest-force

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

We had a situation where are 4 wheeler was stolen out of our barn in the middle of the night. We called the police and gave the Vin numbers. We had no descriptions of people nor vehicles. Two vehicles were pulled over carrying 4 wheelers. The first vehicle pulled over was innocent, and I am sure they were not really happy about it, it was an inconvenience. The second vehicle pulled over was carrying the stolen property, and the man behind the wheel had just been released for doing this same thing previously. Theft.

I was pulled over about 10 years ago and my car searched, due to an armed robbery of a convenience store, where the vehicle matched mines description, but they had no plate numbers. Was it a little embarrassing? Yes. What else were they suppose to do in that situation? I minded but I understood their position.

My step nephews truck was pulled over by an anonymous call with plates, the report was the vehicle was waving a gun at passers on the interstate. He had his daughter with him. They had them lay along side of the road, and his 14 year old daughter to search the vehicle. No gun was found. Considering the job he does, that would be the bad apple call. A vengeful call. Now who was responsible for that injustice? The caller or the police.

It goes both ways. People are going to have different opinions.

Then of course there is "my cousin vinny"

LOL. or the God father. You know him too?

"My cousin vinny" was a movie about two kids stopped and arrested for a crime they did not commit.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

So who were the 5 ? Alito, Kennedy, Roberts and Thomas if Scalia actually grew a brain and dissented or did I miss something ?

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http://sfpublicpress.org/news/2012-08/san-francisco-police-chief-to-be-nations-highest-paid-for-overseeing-14th-largest-force

and an article about one cop proves what exactly?


Well if the top cop gets 300K a year what do the rank and file get???minimum wage...please access google and discover the depth of your ignorance.

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

My step nephews truck was pulled over by an anonymous call with plates, the report was the vehicle was waving a gun at passers on the interstate. He had his daughter with him. They had them lay along side of the road, and his 14 year old daughter to search the vehicle. No gun was found. Considering the job he does, that would be the bad apple call. A vengeful call. Now who was responsible for that injustice? The caller or the police.

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However, if we are to accept SCOTUS as the ultimate authority (as proffered by the above two cases), doesn't it stand to reason that this latest case (The OP) is just as valid, rendering any dissent kind of moot?

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http://sfpublicpress.org/news/2012-08/san-francisco-police-chief-to-be-nations-highest-paid-for-overseeing-14th-largest-force

and an article about one cop proves what exactly?


Well if the top cop gets 300K a year what do the rank and file get???minimum wage...please access google and discover the depth of your ignorance.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

I already told you what they start at here and provided a link showing more. Sorry if it didn't back up your claim, but it didn't.

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My step nephews truck was pulled over by an anonymous call with plates, the report was the vehicle was waving a gun at passers on the interstate. He had his daughter with him. They had them lay along side of the road, and his 14 year old daughter to search the vehicle. No gun was found. Considering the job he does, that would be the bad apple call. A vengeful call. Now who was responsible for that injustice? The caller or the police.

So your step nephew could have been shot, and he and his daughter were put down on the ground while their vehicle was searched, all because the police were allowed to use an anonymous tip as evidence. And you still think that's reasonable? Yes, the caller was clearly the instigator, but it wouldn't be an issue if anonymous reports were given the weight they deserve, which is basically nothing.

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I already told you what they start at here and provided a link showing more. Sorry if it didn't back up your claim, but it didn't.

You have not told anyone shit...you posted up a graph of barny fife's pay grade showing that 60k was the median starting salary for a patrolman.
Have you a clue what the word median means?
Have you a clue what over time is?
check out the pay scales for the ten largest police departments not the pay scale for buttfuck alabama.

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I stand by my description. The facts in this case do not support the court's ruling. Here's why:

1. The caller made a complaint, an accurate description of the vehicle, and an accurate description of the general location a few minutes after the alleged incident. That's all the officer had to go on before he made the stop. You could easily do the same thing to your neighbor just for kicks. I think the fact that the suspect had, uh, 30 pounds of weed throws some people off. "The officer smelled pot. The guy had pot. Fuck that guy." Or something like that. The officer didn't smell marijuana until after he made the stop.

2. Again, the majority ruled that the call was somehow anonymous AND reliable based solely on the three details listed above.

3. If anything, the officer's statement was exculpatory. The only thing he witnessed prior to the stop was five minutes of "irreproachable" driving.

Based on this ruling, an anonymous tip can indeed be enough reason for the police to make a stop.

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My step nephews truck was pulled over by an anonymous call with plates, the report was the vehicle was waving a gun at passers on the interstate. He had his daughter with him. They had them lay along side of the road, and his 14 year old daughter to search the vehicle. No gun was found. Considering the job he does, that would be the bad apple call. A vengeful call. Now who was responsible for that injustice? The caller or the police.

So your step nephew could have been shot, and he and his daughter were put down on the ground while their vehicle was searched, all because the police were allowed to use an anonymous tip as evidence. And you still think that's reasonable? Yes, the caller was clearly the instigator, but it wouldn't be an issue if anonymous reports were given the weight they deserve, which is basically nothing.

If you recall from my post I said that would be an example of a bad apple call. A vengeful call, and yes it was way over the top and abusive. SO not only was the call wrong, the police were wrong. My step nephew usually carries a gun too, but he didn't have it on him, in fact he had just forgot it that day. Lucky for him. That would be an example of corruption. No it wasn't reasonable. Do you think he just sat on his hands and said whoops, not hardly.