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ORIGINAL: darkinshadows You can request it - yet you cannot control it - but a request is different to a demand. Requests are questioning - demands are statements. (sorry - word nazi here ) So what you are saying is that one needs to be clear as to whether one's sentences are declaratives or interrogatories? Im always amused by people who make declarative statements and wait for me to answer them. I sometimes respond with "Im sorry, were you asking a question?" or if I am feeling obnoxious I will let the silence hang until the other person says something like "well" impatiently, and I will say "Im waiting for the actual question." Just me, probably wrong, but whats the point of living if one cannot derive enjoyment from it. Sinergy Usually, Sinergy - I would agree with you - but not in the context of this specific thread or the tradition which is basically being held up to public scrutiny. Gorean slaves are not expected to make any demands - if someone identifies as being a Gorean slave, yet does not behave in accordance to the protocols - even in a non Goreans arena(ie this board) one has to question the validity of the original question. I am not trying to pull jezabels post apart, nor her belief - but if one identifies as something that is as particular as Gorean slavery is - and yet does not follow the protocols that such an identification holds - one has to question the motive behind the threads and discussions themselves. We all know the old 'argument' - call yourself a slave, but you not a slave to me - thats basically the premise of this thread. Only it is turned around onto Gorean Masters and Mistress'. People within BDSM circles call themselves all manner of things, from slave to Lords... its a title and to some communities within BDSM they are honourifics BUT they are unique. In Gorean circles - the difference is that it is written in stone - carved on a tablet and printed in a book. Protocols are more expected - slaves are property and expected to call all Frees Master or Mistress(in general). Of course there are Frees who do not demand or expect this - but for a slave it is imperitive to understand that if you enter someones house or domain, there are expectations within a Gorean environment. If you dont like it, or dont expect it - don't go. But at the same time, you cannot them demand that everyone accept you within the community you associate with - just because you want them to. That is like claiming you are Native american - and never been to america and have none in your blood. Peace and Rapture Thank you for the clarification, darkinshadows. I am not overly familiar with Gorean tradition, despite having read at least 18 of John Norman's Gor books when I was younger, and submissives I have in my life are directed to speak their needs and desires in clear, concise form. Not saying they will get them, but I hate trying to figure out ambiguous comments and vague requests. Just me, etc. Sinergy
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