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RE: Alternative titles - 6/7/2014 5:23:00 AM   
Arturas


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ORIGINAL: Bucephalus

I've never been a fan of being called master, I can't explain why I never liked that term, I just havn't, but my submissive wants to call me something other than "sir" which I personally prefer, however, she'd grown up in the south and is former military personnel, so "sir" doesn't quite have the same meaning for her that it does for me. Her words were along the lines of: "I don't think sir is a strong enough word for what you make me feel, I want to be able to call you by a title that means more". So, here I am, asking for opinions and suggestions on alternative titles to use.


This is a two way street with your submissive and if you want to get into her head, which is where you should be first, learn and use the triggers for her. "Sir" is not one of them so do not use it. Learn what triggers her desired reaction and use it to both your advantages. This card can be played many ways, so alternatively perhaps your disapproval of "Master" expressed firmly will trigger her desire to call you what you wish. Learn her first then lead her. It appears you are making that attempt since you are asking for advice, bravo!

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RE: Alternative titles - 6/26/2014 5:39:18 AM   
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What she is calling you or what she is feeling about you? If she feels that you are her superior and / or feels that she is yours than no need for a specific addressing.

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RE: Alternative titles - 6/26/2014 5:50:50 AM   
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I cant help but thinkof Barbara Eden in her genie outfit when a women calls a guy Master.
And even at a young age, the perverted thoughts that ran through my head if I had a hot genie who would do whatever I said.

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RE: Alternative titles - 6/26/2014 12:44:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bucephalus

I've never been a fan of being called master, I can't explain why I never liked that term, I just havn't, but my submissive wants to call me something other than "sir" which I personally prefer, however, she'd grown up in the south and is former military personnel, so "sir" doesn't quite have the same meaning for her that it does for me. Her words were along the lines of: "I don't think sir is a strong enough word for what you make me feel, I want to be able to call you by a title that means more". So, here I am, asking for opinions and suggestions on alternative titles to use.


I feel terrible for doing this but I am going to pull the "Dom" card here and tell you that if you prefer Sir, then that is what you have her call you. I assure you, I am not being UberDom here, I am actually just suggesting that if your preference is Sir, no matter what she thinks about it is what it should be. If Sir means more to you than it does to her, then you explain your preference and tell her what it means to you. If she is able to put her feelings into the title Sir simply because it is your preference and because it means more to you than her, then she will have shown you her devotion to you by doing what you wish of her. She will come around, it will take time. Besides, it is just a title.

I now need a fucking shower because I feel like I just went all DomlyDom about this... I feel so.... cheap.

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RE: Alternative titles - 6/26/2014 1:27:25 PM   
Default


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Status: offline 		I second the idea of looking into a foreign language translation (using a language from your heritage?).
It's how I came up with her nickname, Devushka (Russian for "girl").

In the mean time, you could consider the term "Mister", not as common as sir but not as stiff as master.
It's all personal preference anyway, so good luck, and lots great ideas in this thread.

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RE: Alternative titles - 6/26/2014 1:41:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		While I can see the reasoning behind "just have her call you Sir," I think it's important to explore other options. If you can find a title that resonates with both of you, it can be better than making her call you by a title that doesn't sit quite right with her.

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RE: Alternative titles - 6/26/2014 1:44:23 PM   
Gauge


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

While I can see the reasoning behind "just have her call you Sir," I think it's important to explore other options. If you can find a title that resonates with both of you, it can be better than making her call you by a title that doesn't sit quite right with her.



See why I feel so... cheap?

**sigh**

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RE: Alternative titles - 6/26/2014 1:52:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gauge


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

While I can see the reasoning behind "just have her call you Sir," I think it's important to explore other options. If you can find a title that resonates with both of you, it can be better than making her call you by a title that doesn't sit quite right with her.



See why I feel so... cheap?

**sigh**
Don't feel bad. Either option is viable. You've suggested a decent fall-back.

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/1/2014 3:49:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I personally like to be called "Dominus". It is the latin word for Master.

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/1/2014 5:12:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		If being called 'Master' is not making you feel all warm and fuzzy inside (whereas "Mistress" and "my Lady" does it for me), and you would prefer 'Sir' but this doesn't resonate with your sub, a close option for that is "Sire." If this sounds archaic, then consider as follows, optionally prefaced by "my":

Besides Mister (French Monsieur=my Sir), variant of Master; Himself or The Man

Alex, Lex = Defender, Protector (Greek: Short for Alexander, Andros meaning mankind)

Baron = Title of Nobility (British, Scottish, Irish, German)
[Duke better to name your mastiff; Earl may sound too provincial; Count *meh*]

Champ, Champion = Winner, Warrior (Late Latin campio)

Csar, Czar, Zar = Russian form of Caesar, a line of Roman Emperors; German form is Kaiser

Don = Lord (Spanish, Italian, Portugese) [Hebrew Adonai=my Lord]

Rex = King (Latin)

Ric, Rick = King (Germanic)

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/1/2014 9:03:59 AM   
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The only thing I really do not like to be called is late for dinner.

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/2/2014 6:53:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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The only thing I really do not like to be called is late for dinner.

So then, for you, it would be more like...Phydoh? Then if you were to bring back a catch, the honorific of Nimrod, the great hunter?

P.S. I didn't include "Prince" for very obvious reasons, e.g. The Artist Formerly Known As [symbol].

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/3/2014 7:44:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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The only thing I really do not like to be called is late for dinner.

So then, for you, it would be more like...Phydoh? Then if you were to bring back a catch, the honorific of Nimrod, the great hunter?

P.S. I didn't include "Prince" for very obvious reasons, e.g. The Artist Formerly Known As [symbol].


Or spot

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/3/2014 8:18:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Or spot

Hm-mm-m, spot spelled backward is "Tops." I think I like Phydoh better. Or perhaps Yttuls.

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/4/2014 5:20:54 AM   
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RE: Alternative titles - 7/5/2014 12:41:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Personally I prefer to be referred to by my sub as her master and addressed by her as Sir. I agree with the posts about alternating them and making them a game. Also you both might want to explore together titles used in different strict cultures. After all no rule said it has to be done in English. Also old English titles may be useful. Explore together. See what works. What doesn't. What tickles the funny bone. The journey is a huge part of the fun. Enjoy.

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/8/2014 2:55:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe you should consider taking a decision, whatever you want to be called, and tell her that is what she will call you.

On this topic the "question" format and dialogue, modern open communication and democracy doesn't sound like the right approach.

Or isn't that any more how it works these days? The other way around she would be kind of topping from the bottom, wouldn't she?

She is ex-military. Well something tells me she might even appreciate you ordering her how to call you and end the discussion ones and for all so you can move on to other things.
Isn't that what Dominants do or are supposed to do, take educated decisions for their Houses!

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/8/2014 3:16:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CloakedProtector

On this topic the "question" format and dialogue, modern open communication and democracy doesn't sound like the right approach.

Or isn't that any more how it works these days? The other way around she would be kind of topping from the bottom, wouldn't she?
....
Isn't that what Dominants do or are supposed to do, take educated decisions for their Houses!

And why wouldn't it be the "right approach" to agree upon a name that suits both Dominant and submissive, one that has meaning for the both of them.
Evidently this matter is of sufficient importance to the OP for him to have raised the topic for discussion.
Taking a vote on this matter isn't relevant because this is a mutually embarked-upon decision. There's already a 1-1 tie from this perspective.

Evidently also, he cares enough about his submissive to take her feelings into consideration.
That is what an non-ignorant Dominant is supposed to do.

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/8/2014 3:57:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		FireOpal, This has nothing to do with care or right approach.

This is not a vanilla situation, neither a romantic inspired topic but a BDSM related issue.

Your solution would have been perfectly acceptable if they didn't make an issue out of it and they would have agreed on a name from the start.
I was not pleading for the non and never involved submissive or so.
But clearly they didn't/don't have a solution or the topic wouldn't be out here.
And here we have a question about it on a public board with the Master saying he wants/prefers "Sir" and the sub/slave saying she wants something else.

Now unless someone comes up with a real clever name, and I didn't see any, someone is going to give! The alternating names solution sounds needless complicated to me.

So in a BDSM lifestyle I think the non-ignorant Master assumes his role of Master and takes a decision if he sees there isn't an imminent solution at hand (which there clearly isn't, this thread is about 14 days old).
And connecting such decision making to the assumptions that he would not care about his submissive or that she wouldn't be of sufficient importance to him is possibly a little too simplistic isn't it.

And as for:
"Taking a vote on this matter isn't relevant because this is a mutually embarked-upon decision. There's already a 1-1 tie from this perspective. "

If that is going to be the ground argument in decision making for their BDSM relationship then I am not sure how this will work out in the long term.
So if next time the Master says left and the sub says right then we have a comparable situation and it must be debated at all times?

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/8/2014 4:29:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: zaxxon4
I’m also fond of the medieval “Sire”, “My Lord", or” My Liege" (think allegiance).


That stuff is too Lord BananaPants for me.

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