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RE: Alternative titles - 7/8/2014 5:43:50 PM   
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And connecting such decision making to the assumptions that he would not care about his submissive or that she wouldn't be of sufficient importance to him is possibly a little too simplistic isn't it.

For you perhaps.

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And as for:
"Taking a vote on this matter isn't relevant because this is a mutually embarked-upon decision. There's already a 1-1 tie from this perspective. "
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If that is going to be the ground argument in decision making for their BDSM relationship then I am not sure how this will work out in the long term.
So if next time the Master says left and the sub says right then we have a comparable situation and it must be debated at all times?

You were the one who stated that "modern open communication and democracy doesn't sound like the right approach" originally, when clearly OP and his sub do engage in so-called modern open communication, then segued into "kind of topping from the bottom." Unless you would like to clarify otherwise, you seem to be equating open communication - which is a must-have in any non-dysfunctional D/s relationship dynamic - with democracy; and with a sub daring to voice an opinion or express her wishes to be Topping from the bottom.

We are still in the dark as to what OP has decided to do next, so there is no "left" and "right" in a situation where he has not made a final decision yet. Authority rests with the final decision, less with the (co-operative) process by which it gets there. There has been no breach of D/s *protocol.*

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/9/2014 2:57:15 AM   
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FieryOpal, you probably missed this phrase in my post:
"I was not pleading for the non and never involved submissive or so. "

As well as this one:
"...take educated decisions...."

An educated decision includes listening to all House members and that includes the subs/slaves if they have something to contribute.
That is COMMUNICATION ... it is NOT DEMOCRACY indeed because after all opinions have been heard someone will decide.

From where I stand it is the Dominants task to at some point decide.
If, as was discussed in an other post, he can within the/a negotiated framework decide on intimate shaving or not then I think he can decide whether his sub/slave calls him Sir, Master or HoneyPoney.
The more that his choice could serve a purpose (part of training, rules, discipline, conformity with their BDSM club regulation, etc) behind the scope of the arguments that the sub/slave has lined up.

Now let that be the particularity of this lifestyle that when the vanilla rules (which I find perfect for modern vanilla relation) start to dominate the BDSM lifestyle you quickly end up with diluted BDSM.
It is my personal opinion, and I'll respect all others that would even strongly deviate from it, that when you are in a BDSM relationship you should FEEL that you are in one and therefore it needs to be different from a vanilla one.
The topic at hand is a good example. If in a vanilla relation a partner calls the other one, say, honey, then in GENERAL they don't discuss (as far as I know) whether the other agrees, they just each use their preferred term of endearment.


And, as you are in the lifestyle you will know that one of the TOP 3 requests of submissives is: NOT HAVING TO MAKE DECISIONS (some don't even want any involvement).
It is part of giving up control and part of the experience, a way of clearing their mind from the intricacies of live too. Furthermore their is even a BDSM discipline that completely aims for the extreme implementation of that (TPE).

Another example is behavioural training including verbal. Why do we train: "Yes, Sir", No, Sir", "Thank You, Sir". Why do we have rules that apply in certain circumstances saying that you will only speak when spoken too?
Why do we train "the Master" and forbid the possessive form "my Master", certainly in poly, why at all is this part of the many disciplines of BDSM if the Dominant can't even, after consultation, make a choice that fits his plan, that fits what he is aiming for in his House?

So again, if the Master that started this thread communicated (which he clearly did) and a difference in opinion/preference is present (which is clearly the case) and it last unreasonably long (14 days since it is on this board for such a simple thing compared to most other stuff where decisions are at order) then in a BDSM lifestyle (which they are clearly living) the Master takes a decision. He can go as-well for Sir as for Master, at his discretion, because maybe he likes Sir more but goes for Master because actually he doesn't care how he is called and grants his sub/slave the pleasure - why not.

In all cases he communicated. But no, we certainly don't HAVE TO put it to the vote if it is within the negotiated boundaries, we can but don't have to, IMO.



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RE: Alternative titles - 7/9/2014 3:25:15 AM   
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RE: Alternative titles - 7/9/2014 5:01:43 AM   
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FieryOpal, by the way, I forgot your statement:

"And why wouldn't it be the "right approach" to agree upon a name that suits both Dominant and submissive, one that has meaning for the both of them. "

Show me were I wrote that that would not be the right approach? The issue is that they DO NOT FIND such common name after 14 days or we wouldn't be here, would we. And no one keeps them from changing it again in 6 months when they find something.


I notice your eyebrow raising icon and your ability to deform post content to fit the reply!
Not sure why you do this, but I'll live with it now that I know.

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/9/2014 5:13:25 AM   
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[Italics&Bolding mine]
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Show me were I wrote that that would not be the right approach?

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CloakedProtector

On this topic the "question" format and dialogue, modern open communication and democracy doesn't sound like the right approach.

Or isn't that any more how it works these days?
The other way around she would be kind of topping from the bottom, wouldn't she?

She is ex-military. Well something tells me she might even appreciate you ordering her how to call you and end the discussion ones and for all so you can move on to other things.



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RE: Alternative titles - 7/9/2014 5:49:26 AM   
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In a book that sold a few copies, Dale Carnegie told us that there is no sweeter sound to the human ear than our own name.

For many, many, years, I have been of the opinion that people deserve to be called anything they choose; not only in this lifestyle but in any area of life. I believe it is flat-out disrespect to call someone anything other than what they wish to be called.

So, I don't see why this is even a big deal. When you add in the fact that one of the people involved (ostensibly) claims to be submissive and when you add in the lifestyle with which we're involved, why is this an issue?

I have to admit that I would probably not consent to calling anyone "Lord and Master" but that's because it kind of comes a bit too close to "religion" for my tastes.

If the OP were a strapping, six-footer from the rough end of town that wanted to be called "Alice", I'd oblige.







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RE: Alternative titles - 7/9/2014 9:11:27 AM   
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FieryOpal, I didn't ask you to show me were I wrote comparable words but were I used them to say WHAT YOU wrote:

"And why wouldn't it be the "right approach" to agree upon a name that suits both Dominant and submissive, one that has meaning for the both of them. "

The words you site are in NO WAY saying that finding a name they both agree on would be the wrong approach.

Still wondering what you are up to here. It is the second time now you try to drag this out of context.

You are not by any coincidence the sub/slave of the Master that started this thread, are you? In that case I do understand but then it would be nice to know.

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/9/2014 4:11:55 PM   
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The eyeroll was to restrain myself from posting something like what I'm going to post now.

Nobody here on these fora are a part of your Belgian House of Slaves, and there is no need to be making wall-of-text posts across multiple threads, all of which convey a similar message as if we were all idiots and/or newbies.

I've never had to use the Hide Button before for any poster, but I'm glad this option is available.

Have a good day.

ETA: P.S. If you had bothered to check a profile before opening one's mouth to stick one's foot into it, you would know that I am a Domme.

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/10/2014 2:59:41 AM   
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No need to become personal. However I can see you have a problem there and I hope that what I'll write will helps you out, although technically with the 'hide' you won't even see this post.

Did you really think I didn't check your profile and knew you were a Domme?
The day I read your reaction on the Financial Domme threat I knew what I needed to know.
I just introduced the suggestion because you didn't, for the second time, hesitate to deform the post and therefore emphasised that in a way the outcome of this had some extended importance too you, one of your slaves reading the board or so.

Maybe the hide button, while weak, is the best way out for you because really, should you have had to answer the question, in staid of turning around the hot soup and becoming personal, no mouth would have been sufficiently big for your foot to fit.

Now I'll leave it to this otherwise this is going off-topic and becomes disturbing for the other posters.

All this illustrates very well how difficult resolving issues in a BDSM Lifestyle can be. The problem of name choosing in the main thread may at first look trivial but clearly for the Dominant and sub involved it was no doubt an issue because otherwise it wouldn't have made the board. Not easier for the one or the other because while the Dominant may seem in the advantage, because of his role in the relationship, he has his own nuts to crack. He carries the burden, by lack of natural consensus which is the case here, to allow the democratic vote - which could in the longer term and certainly in a repetitive pattern when other issues occur seriously undermine/dilute the experience of their BDSM lifestyle - or take an informed/educated decision based on what the communication brought to the surface and what his future plans are.

Now, after the past debacle, I think it is clear where I stand in this. I know this is not always the most easy solution and other relational emotions may be in play but I think that in a BDSM relationship (since both wanted it) the BDSM recipes should apply.

I keep saying subs/slave are among the strongest people, often stronger and braver then Dominants, because they cope with the situation, undergo it willingly or unwillingly due to the transfer of power, and THEY have no hide button to push.



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RE: Alternative titles - 7/10/2014 4:56:14 AM   
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For many, many, years, I have been of the opinion that people deserve to be called anything they choose; not only in this lifestyle but in any area of life. I believe it is flat-out disrespect to call someone anything other than what they wish to be called.

So, I don't see why this is even a big deal. When you add in the fact that one of the people involved (ostensibly) claims to be submissive and when you add in the lifestyle with which we're involved, why is this an issue?


I'm of the same opinion as DaddySatyr and wonder why a name or title is an issue.

I call him what he wants to be called, he also calls me what I want to be called. I detest my given name so have always gone by my nickname. Although he likes my given name, he doesn't call me by it because he knows I don't like it. He calls me by my nickname or by one of his terms of endearment names he has given me.

If something as simple as a name becomes an issue in a relationship, I have to wonder how serious issues in a relationship would be handled and solved.




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RE: Alternative titles - 7/10/2014 11:05:28 AM   
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FieryOpal, you probably missed this phrase in my post:
"I was not pleading for the non and never involved submissive or so. "

As well as this one:
"...take educated decisions...."

An educated decision includes listening to all House members and that includes the subs/slaves if they have something to contribute.
That is COMMUNICATION ... it is NOT DEMOCRACY indeed because after all opinions have been heard someone will decide.


I believe your problem is that you have not mastered the english language. In the above statement you posit a contribution from each member who has something to contribute. If the one in charge makes a decission based on the input that is the definition of democracy.
If the one in charge makes a decission based on his own whim that is not democracy and he listened to the input of the others as mear sop and not for the purpose of making an informed decission based on all of the relevant data.
Hopefully this has disabused you of your ignorance.


From where I stand it is the Dominants task to at some point decide.
If, as was discussed in an other post, he can within the/a negotiated framework decide on intimate shaving or not then I think he can decide whether his sub/slave calls him Sir, Master or HoneyPoney.
The more that his choice could serve a purpose (part of training, rules, discipline, conformity with their BDSM club regulation, etc) behind the scope of the arguments that the sub/slave has lined up.

Now let that be the particularity of this lifestyle that when the vanilla rules (which I find perfect for modern vanilla relation) start to dominate the BDSM lifestyle you quickly end up with diluted BDSM.

You are hardly in a position to dictate what does and does not constitute "twue" bdsm...you may explane your position but you may not dictate anothers.



It is my personal opinion, and I'll respect all others that would even strongly deviate from it, that when you are in a BDSM relationship you should FEEL that you are in one and therefore it needs to be different from a vanilla one.

Once again your english skills have failed you. The above is a contradiction in terms.
You start by saying that your personal opinion may differ from other opinions which you are obligated to respect but then you continue to point out that your way is the only "twue" way.


The topic at hand is a good example. If in a vanilla relation a partner calls the other one, say, honey, then in GENERAL they don't discuss (as far as I know) whether the other agrees, they just each use their preferred term of endearment.


And, as you are in the lifestyle you will know that one of the TOP 3 requests of submissives is: NOT HAVING TO MAKE DECISIONS

Would you have any validation for this particularly ignorant unsubstantiated opinion?



It is part of giving up control and part of the experience, a way of clearing their mind from the intricacies of live too. Furthermore their is even a BDSM discipline that completely aims for the extreme implementation of that (TPE).

Once again your ignorance of the english language has caused you to get both feet in your mouth at the same time. Tpe does not mean that the sub becomes a mindless dependent automoton.

Another example is behavioural training including verbal. Why do we train: "Yes, Sir", No, Sir", "Thank You, Sir". Why do we have rules that apply in certain circumstances saying that you will only speak when spoken too?
Why do we train "the Master" and forbid the possessive form "my Master"

We do not do this but it is clear that you do.
"My master"???? If a sub/slave has a master would it not be that sub/slaves master?
You really do need some remedial help with your "dick and jane"





, certainly in poly, why at all is this part of the many disciplines of BDSM if the Dominant can't even, after consultation, make a choice that fits his plan, that fits what he is aiming for in his House?

Perhaps because there is a difference between a sub and a slave. Perhaps there is a difference between your perceptions and perceptions of say those with a three digit iq. Perhaps there is the possibility that each d/s couple/group does not need to depend on you to show them the "twue" way?

So again, if the Master that started this thread communicated (which he clearly did) and a difference in opinion/preference is present (which is clearly the case) and it last unreasonably long (14 days since it is on this board for such a simple thing compared to most other stuff where decisions are at order.


Not only do you seek to show us the "twue" way but also the exact timetable in which it must be accomplished.


In all cases he communicated. But no, we certainly don't HAVE TO put it to the vote if it is within the negotiated boundaries, we can but don't have to, IMO.

After all of your absolutes you finally come down to this limp wristed "well whatever"






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RE: Alternative titles - 7/10/2014 11:13:34 AM   
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Maybe you should consider taking a decision, whatever you want to be called, and tell her that is what she will call you.

On this topic the "question" format and dialogue, modern open communication and democracy doesn't sound like the right approach.

Modern communicaqtion and democracy does not seem like a concept you are terribly familiar with.

Or isn't that any more how it works these days? The other way around she would be kind of topping from the bottom, wouldn't she?

Only in the opinion of a moron. The op was pretty clear that it was a decission that he would like to solve bilaterily. Perhaps before you jump in you might consider consulting a translator?

She is ex-military. Well something tells me she might even appreciate you ordering her how to call you and end the discussion ones and for all so you can move on to other things.

Something tells me that you have never been in the military. This would mitigate severely against you having a valid opinion concerning the military or the military way of life.

Isn't that what Dominants do or are supposed to do, take educated decisions for their Houses!


Educated in the sense of accepting imput from all interested parties?

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/10/2014 11:27:46 AM   
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FireOpal, This has nothing to do with care or right approach.

This is not a vanilla situation, neither a romantic inspired topic but a BDSM related issue.

And according to you only solvable by the rules and regulations of bdsm as you have dictated them. yeah right

Your solution would have been perfectly acceptable if they didn't make an issue out of it and they would have agreed on a name from the start.

If a bull frog had springs on it's ass it would not bump it so hard each time it landed.

I was not pleading for the non and never involved submissive or so.
But clearly they didn't/don't have a solution or the topic wouldn't be out here.
And here we have a question about it on a public board with the Master saying he wants/prefers "Sir" and the sub/slave saying she wants something else.


Wow what a perfect opportunity for open and honest communication.

Now unless someone comes up with a real clever name, and I didn't see any, someone is going to give! The alternating names solution sounds needless complicated to me.

Or...they might, by discussion, come up with a proper alcolade.

So in a BDSM lifestyle I think the non-ignorant Master assumes his role of Master and takes a decision if he sees there isn't an imminent solution at hand (which there clearly isn't, this thread is about 14 days old).


Well with the end of the world so eminent I can see the need for speed in resolving this problem.

And connecting such decision making to the assumptions that he would not care about his submissive or that she wouldn't be of sufficient importance to him is possibly a little too simplistic isn't it.

Besides you who else feels he does not care for his sub?

And as for:
"Taking a vote on this matter isn't relevant because this is a mutually embarked-upon decision. There's already a 1-1 tie from this perspective. "

Once I would caution you to obtain a comptatn translator. It is a 1-1 tie for only two names not the whole pantheon of possibilities.

If that is going to be the ground argument in decision making for their BDSM relationship then I am not sure how this will work out in the long term.

How is it that in your zip code the sub/slave has no input into this enterprise?

So if next time the Master says left and the sub says right then we have a comparable situation and it must be debated at all times?


This is a discussion about a name, a form of address...did you somehow miss that? It is not about a disobedient sub/slave.
Please try to keep up.

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/10/2014 12:32:45 PM   
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well tompsonx, I see you you have been pulled out of the stables but my English was apparently sufficiently good for you to understand and dedicate 3 posts to it.

I do not wonder about your English but about your ability to UNDERSTAND things.

A) I dictated NOTHING to NO ONE. I just replied to the MAIN POST. NOW YOU, and before FieryOpal are the ONLY posters I ever address after being addressed first.
So starting with a erroneous conclusion is not really impressive, maybe you should have stayed out of it.

B) Secondly I did not involve anyone. NO ONE. This phrase that tries to include the other posters was not written by me:
"Nobody here on these fora are a part of your Belgian House of Slaves, and there is no need to be making wall-of-text posts across multiple threads, all of which convey a similar message as if we were all idiots and/or newbies. "

If fierOpal feels like an idiot that is fine, it is HER perception, not my intention. And by the way I posted ONCE in each threat (except this one) and she is in EACH of them, sometimes multiple times.
So accusing me of walls of post because I go to multiple topic at once, normal when you arrive, is a little weird.

C) I didn't make it personal. I can understand that ALL involved in BDSM for financial reasons ( excluding real pro's) may get on my back here.
Don't worry, I don't care and I am going nowhere, not even after your surreal effort to dedicate 3 posts to something your clearly do not want to understand EITHER.
Oh, nooo, don't tell me - you where not instructed by your Domme to do this were you? Ah, yeh I have to check profiles first, but in this case I'll skip that,.

Here, to give you one citation, just to show I read your fine English posts:
"This is a discussion about a name, a form of address...did you somehow miss that? It is not about a disobedient sub/slave.
Please try to keep up."
You are ABSOLUTELY right. Now have a little intellectual honesty and check WHO in this thread deformed my posts and started this storm in a glass of water making it personal.

Finally, to give you a little kick, because there is no free lunch, stay in vanilla, that is where you belong.
Let's see if that is sufficiently good English for you. And I am not even warmed up.



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RE: Alternative titles - 7/10/2014 12:54:19 PM   
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well tompsonx, I see you you have been pulled out of the stables but my English was apparently sufficiently good for you to understand and dedicate 3 posts to it.

It was precisely because you have not mastered the language I counciled you.
Stables are where livestock are kept.I am not livestock.
So clearly once again your english could use some professional help.



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RE: Alternative titles - 7/10/2014 1:13:15 PM   
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I do not wonder about your English but about your ability to UNDERSTAND things.

You can wonder until you get older. Only directed study will be of any actual help to your quieries.

A) I dictated NOTHING to NO ONE. I just replied to the MAIN POST. NOW YOU, and before FieryOpal are the ONLY posters I ever address after being addressed first.
So starting with a erroneous conclusion is not really impressive, maybe you should have stayed out of it.

Maybe you should be aware that it is "an erroneous" not "a eroneous". Please get a translator before you get both feet in your mouth at the same time.

B) Secondly I did not involve anyone. NO ONE. This phrase that tries to include the other posters was not written Perhaps if you were to compose in french and then have a competent translator help you your post would not seem so puerile.


"Nobody here on these fora are a part of your Belgian House of Slaves, and there is no need to be making wall-of-text posts across multiple threads, all of which convey a similar message as if we were all idiots and/or newbies. "

If fierOpal feels like an idiot that is fine, it is HER perception, not my intention. And by the way I posted ONCE in each threat (except this one) and she is in EACH of them, sometimes multiple times.
So accusing me of walls of post because I go to multiple topic at once, normal when you arrive, is a little weird.

I have not mentioned your posting style only your inability to comprehend english. It might be more productive if you were to address fo with issues that affect fo and not me.

C) I didn't make it personal.

so what?


I can understand that ALL involved in BDSM for financial reasons ( excluding real pro's) may get on my back here.

Those would be folks not named thompson.

Don't worry, I don't care and I am going nowhere, not even after your surreal effort to dedicate 3 posts to something your clearly do not want to understand EITHER.

I understand english quite well. I am not limited in how many post I may make. Where you go is of no interest to me.

Oh, nooo, don't tell me - you where not instructed by your Domme to do this were you? Ah, yeh I have to check profiles first, but in this case I'll skip that,.
You seem to skip most anything that require ratonal thought.
So far you have skipped trying to address any of the issues I broached in my original posts.


Here, to give you one citation, just to show I read your fine English posts:

"This is a discussion about a name, a form of address...did you somehow miss that? It is not about a disobedient sub/slave.
Please try to keep up."


You are ABSOLUTELY right.

You would do well not to forget that fact.


Now have a little intellectual honesty and check WHO in this thread deformed my posts and started this storm in a glass of water making it personal.

The idiom is "tempest in a teapot" not "storm in a glass of water".

A little intellectual honest might be in order here...

Address me for what I say and please do not try to ascribe the thoughts of others to me. Why is that too difficult for you?

Finally, to give you a little kick,

I believe it is against tos to threaten someone with physical violence. I have noticed though that that sort of bravado is usually limited to minors.


because there is no free lunch, stay in vanilla, that is where you belong.

I am not in the habit of taking advice from children. When you finally graduate to trousers from short pants you may become aware of this.

Let's see if that is sufficiently good English for you. And I am not even warmed up.

Nope your english still sux.
So in addition to getting warmed up you might consider a tune up on that underpowered pos you are making an effort to pilot.

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/10/2014 1:43:22 PM   
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Yes, everyone ought be called what they desire.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


In a book that sold a few copies, Dale Carnegie told us that there is no sweeter sound to the human ear than our own name.

For many, many, years, I have been of the opinion that people deserve to be called anything they choose; not only in this lifestyle but in any area of life. I believe it is flat-out disrespect to call someone anything other than what they wish to be called.

So, I don't see why this is even a big deal. When you add in the fact that one of the people involved (ostensibly) claims to be submissive and when you add in the lifestyle with which we're involved, why is this an issue?

I have to admit that I would probably not consent to calling anyone "Lord and Master" but that's because it kind of comes a bit too close to "religion" for my tastes.

If the OP were a strapping, six-footer from the rough end of town that wanted to be called "Alice", I'd oblige.







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RE: Alternative titles - 7/10/2014 2:00:50 PM   
thompsonx


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If the OP were a strapping, six-footer from the rough end of town that wanted to be called "Alice", I'd oblige.

From having read many of your post I believe you are telling the truth. As for alice, I would most likely change his name to pamf.


< Message edited by thompsonx -- 7/10/2014 2:02:46 PM >

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/10/2014 2:09:31 PM   
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neither is thompson involved in the BDSM industry as a professional.

Do you mean to say that all that money I pay the ladies at the butt hut does not qualify me as a professional?

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RE: Alternative titles - 7/10/2014 2:39:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

[FieryOpal:] neither is thompson involved in the BDSM industry as a professional.

Do you mean to say that all that money I pay the ladies at the butt hut does not qualify me as a professional?

I didn't think being a professional client qualified you as a sex worker.

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