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kdsub -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/9/2014 7:28:19 PM)

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I think your right about that. And while I think not being able to afford legal help is a part of it, I think that growing up in the atmosphere that surrounds the inner city plays a big part to. I have a friend who is the last house standing on her side of the block. The rest are broken shells. The lawns aren't mowed and piles of garbage accumulate in front of the abandoned homes. How is a child supposed to grow up and have any hope for a future when they are surrounded by depression and crime.


Oh I agree and these are the things that they must take care of themselves...They see a kid spraying graffiti they stop him or call the police... They see someone dumping trash on an abandon lot they stop them or call the police... A house is deserted and falling apart they complain to the city and complain and complain and complain... until the owner is forced to fix it up or it is condemned and torn down and replaced with grass. They see dealers on the corner they call the police... They see a crack house they call the police... They see gangs fighting they call the police. They see children on the streets late at night they send them home or call the police. They damn well keep their own kids out of gangs and off the streets late at night.

Neighborhoods come together and petition a truck or dumpster from the city and clean up trash... they get out their cleaning equipment and remove or paint over gang graffiti. ... They form neighborhood watches...They build pride back in the neighborhoods and through their actions their children will have pride. They make sure their children go to school and do their homework. In the city of St. Louis a third of the kids don't even go to school in the first week of school... why... because their parents don't make them... Well... make them!

ONLY THEY CAN DO THIS... not middle aged white men bending over backwards and jumping through hoops to prove they are not racist.

Butch




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/9/2014 7:50:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


It's wrong to hire anyone who doesn't qualify for the job solely to meet a quota of "racial balance".


What law forces anyone to hire an unqualified person to achieve "racial balance"?


Affirmative action, a federal law that came out of Lyndon Johnson's Civil Rights act of 1964.



If that is true then perhaps you could post the relevant sections for us.


I'll let you do the reading. You're a smart guy.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/9/2014 7:52:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

"things will only change when blacks change."

His point was...things will change for blacks.....when blacks change.

They're the one's certain of outsiders influencing their future. Few others are because they understand that their own actions influence their future.

The actions of others have no effect on your future...spoken like a man with a paper asshole trying to fight a forest fire.


(Now, I made it safely past the 7th grade, and that one entirely eludes me).




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/9/2014 8:10:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

What I thought you meant was

Bend over, bozo. What you "thought" I meant, and claimed I meant, was that "blacks and blacks ALONE are responsible for the problems that afflict their communities." See here if you forget. Nice bit of quote trimming there, too. But hey, why let a little misrepresentation stand in the way? After all, it's just good family fun.

K.


Actually I, not thompson x, made the claim that you asserted "blacks and blacks alone are responsible for the problems that afflict their communities." in my post #262 on page 14. Please note that my original text didn't capitalise 'alone'* so not only have you wrongly attributed the claim, you also altered it without advising the reader that you have altered the original. And, amazingly, you accuse others of "misrepresentation" .......

The post of yours that I was responding to reads in full:
"Put a sock in it, tweakabelle. Nobody has demonstrated more disrespect for the welfare of the black community than other blacks themselves. It ain't white folks driving into our inner cities at night to paint gang signs on buildings, shoot the place up, and punch a few heads of kids who are trying to do well in school." (post #260)

In your post, you are clearly pointing the finger of blame at "blacks" and no one else. You specifically absolve "whites" of blame. You exclude all other racial groups from blame - " Nobody has demonstrated more disrespect for the welfare of the black community than other blacks themselves." The only available conclusion is that you are blaming all blacks, as you declined to qualify "blacks" in any way shape or form, and no one else. This conclusion could have been easily avoided by simply qualifying "blacks" in some way eg "some blacks ...." but you declined to do so.

The post, and the thinking that inspired it, are racist to their cores. All blacks are judged solely on the basis of behaviour by black gangbangers. An entire racial group is judged on the basis of alleged behaviour of its worst members. Everyone else is excluded. A parallel would be judging all whites on the basis of Ku Klux Klan behaviour. Textbook racism.

If you want to post such sentiments, that's your right and your problem (and I mean problem). But please defend it on the basis of what it is - textbook classic racism, nothing more, nothing less. It's not " just good family fun", It's hate speech, and to my mind, hate and hate speech are always putrid ugly and sick.

* I have bolded 'alone' so that the alteration you made is clearer


Hate speech.

Interesting.

How many Spanish music videos have anything in their final product about "my wetback"? How many Jewish music videos (or movies) talk about all the "Kikes" in the hood? How many Asian music videos go on and on about all the "Chinks" they work with, wanna fuck or think have fine booty's?

About as many as videos by white people who talk about "crackers" and other epithets.

None.

Not "very few".....none.

Why do you think that is?

Because it's offensive. It's unproductive. It values themselves and their peers as "less than".

And everyone (except for one class/race of people) agrees.

And who's being affected by this disease of language? Not whites. Not Jews. Not Asians. Not Latinos.

And who's complaining about the epithets? Not whites. Not Jews. Not Asians. Not Latinos.

How many SNL sketches are there about "stupid white people"? A movie: "White men can't jump". How many TV shows with other nationalities pick on their white boss, neighbor, ex boyfriend, etc.? (More than a few). And it's always against white men....how dare they shoot a negative against a woman, black, white or any color or race. One would be bad enough, but one against black men would create a virtual firestorm. Against black women....get the Presidential football out....it's time for fingerprint analysis, verifying the counterbalancing corresponding codes and.....push the red button. WWIII.

Yet no one seems to take offense at any of these negative backlashes against white people. Not even white people.

Anyone remember any about stupid black people? None that I recall.

Because it's perfectly politically correct to denigrate white people.

And what do white people (and others) do about it when it does happen? Let it roll off their backs...because whining about words wastes their time and interrupts the goal: Success (or at least minimally avoiding failure).

So, truly, who's the racist in this society? The ones that stand side by side with those who think it's offensive, ask that federal taxes be diverted overwhelmingly in favor of those who are (purportedly) disadvantaged, only to watch those very same folks argue that this same effort (demanded by them) keeps them "down", or, the ones who in nearly every environment, propagate the same vitriol against not only others, but themselves?

Hate speech indeed.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/9/2014 8:13:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MrBukani


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vfluc.txt

Blacks - that comprise 11% of the population commit 46% of the murders, 35% of rapists. 40$ of felony assaults.

Overall blacks comprised 55% of violent felons.


Poverty creates criminals.



Lack of effort, poor education, inconsistent effort....creates poverty.

There are as many stories of people born in a potato patch who became millionaires, as there are of those born in a mansion who ended up in a potato patch.

As a man thinketh, so shall he be.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/9/2014 8:15:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

You are the only one posting that this bigoted swill is good family fun.

Bigoted swill my ass. You just can't fucking read English.

Nobody has demonstrated more disrespect for the welfare of the black community than other blacks themselves. It ain't white folks driving into our inner cities at night to paint gang signs on buildings, shoot the place up, and punch a few heads of kids who are trying to do well in school.

"Nobody has demonstrated more disrespect" clearly implicates others in disrespecting the black community. And "other blacks" plainly refers not to all blacks but specifically to those who "paint gang signs on buildings, shoot the place up, and punch a few heads of kids who are trying to do well in school."

Now be a good fellow and stop making a fool of yourself.

K.



(You're really expecting quite a lot there).




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/9/2014 8:36:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I think it is economics more than racism when it comes to convictions today… They did commit the crimes there is no denying that…but on average cannot afford the quality of legal representation that whites… who commit the same crimes…can afford.

No, they did not always commit the crimes and sometimes the "crimes" are things that shouldn't even be prosecuted.

Take 2 examples. Simple pot possession. White kid gets caught with a dime bag and the cops simply take it, happened to me a couple of times. Black kid gets caught with the same dime bag and he's going to jail and depending on the DA he might even get a distribution charge.

2 white guys fight outside a bar, nothing worse than a broken nose, cops break up the fight, both guys get taken in to sleep it off and get misdemeanor charges (I've seen it happen). 2 black guys fight outside a bar, again nothing worse than a broken nose, cops take the instigator in and charge him with felony assault and battery (saw it happen at the old Checkerboard, I got called as a witness). The guy got a year in jail because he got drunk and got in a fight.

Same "crimes,"  vastly different outcomes.




Now....since racism is evident (and I concur, it's a fact, I've seen it as well....a brilliant attorney I dated some 10 years ago, we were getting serious, met the fam one day and her two brothers in law (white....big NASCAR fans) on the back porch {"man time"/beers and whiskey, while the girls were making food} after discussing their MOPAR engine cars and big trucks they owned, proceeded to explain to me in Orlando Florida {1999 or so} how all the N's were "stealing all {their} jobs". I remember thinking "did I just enter some kind of weird fucking 100 year time warp?"), wouldn't it be advisable for those who find themselves in the position of being listed in their annual year book (thanks to their color) as "most likely to do time" to do something other than that which destines them to failure?

It's statistical fact that 2 guys walking down the street at night, 1 black, 1 white....the black guy is much more likely (by some fairly larger) % of being stopped and asked questions,let alone taken in for "questioning".

It's also statistical fact that blacks make up the bulk of prisoners in numbers, not percentage and, at 10 or so % of the population, doesn't that beg the question..."maybe, whatever they're doing....they should consider doing some % less of that thing?"

If a white man says these things, he's a racist.

Bill Cosby said the same things 3 years ago in a very public forum and he was applauded, lauded, praised...."finally someone is telling our black youth the truth they need to hear....educate yourselves/quit selling drugs to the next generation/quit impregnating women and leaving (the largest unwed mother population is black women).

They're just as true, regardless of the color of the skin of the person standing at the microphone.

Effort, education, saving for a future, being more prepared than the next guy, being 15 minutes early, working 30 minutes more than the boss does, etc.....

It's basic stuff....it doesn't apply to blacks.

Or whites.

Or Asians.

Or Latinos.

It applies to everyone....who desires success.

It's the same rule book for everyone, because it's the same game.





LookieNoNookie -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/9/2014 8:46:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: chloryformME

bullshit your ass.....Michael Jordan is caught on the phone calling the white player or players on his roster cracker or whatever and is demeaning....the same people who are jumping for joy over Donald would be claiming racism, saying the league is out to get MJ....same in the nfl, NHL, or whatever. Obama does it continuously.

It's funny. I've followed the President's career since he was first running for state senator. I've never heard him make an accusation that someone was a racist, ever. Despite the fact that many of the attacks on him were blatantly racial.

BTW you might not appear to be such a fool and a bigot if you'd learn to spell and use at least grade school grammar.


http://danfromsquirrelhill.wordpress.com/2013/09/18/obama-racist-test/

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=obama+a+racist+against+white+people&qpvt=Obama+a+Racist+Against+White+People&FORM=VDRE#view=detail&mid=791F64404D9D2CF6A8F9791F64404D9D2CF6A8F9




BecomingV -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/9/2014 9:24:58 PM)

In the early 70's, a black boy and I kissed. I am white and our friends were white. All summer, this group had fun, until Feaster and I kissed - then, we had to run like hell from the rocks being hurled at us. A few years later, I lost a job because of affirmative action. I was all about civil rights, so I accepted the loss with grace. Doing my part for the greater good and all that. The late 70's - my brother took the FBI special agent exam. He's white. The criteria was that a white guy's 95 was equal to a non-white guy's 75 in test scores. So, all else being equal, the lesser qualified was approved.

I thought affirmative action was about proportional access and not about lowering standards. While I can't speak for everywhere, I can say that I've seen harm done through affirmative action and do not support it as a means of creating equality.




Phydeaux -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/9/2014 9:25:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I think it is economics more than racism when it comes to convictions today… They did commit the crimes there is no denying that…but on average cannot afford the quality of legal representation that whites… who commit the same crimes…can afford.

No, they did not always commit the crimes and sometimes the "crimes" are things that shouldn't even be prosecuted.

Take 2 examples. Simple pot possession. White kid gets caught with a dime bag and the cops simply take it, happened to me a couple of times. Black kid gets caught with the same dime bag and he's going to jail and depending on the DA he might even get a distribution charge.

2 white guys fight outside a bar, nothing worse than a broken nose, cops break up the fight, both guys get taken in to sleep it off and get misdemeanor charges (I've seen it happen). 2 black guys fight outside a bar, again nothing worse than a broken nose, cops take the instigator in and charge him with felony assault and battery (saw it happen at the old Checkerboard, I got called as a witness). The guy got a year in jail because he got drunk and got in a fight.

Same "crimes,"  vastly different outcomes.




Since you don't know the criminal backgrounds, you don't know the crimes are the same, do you?




DomKen -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/9/2014 9:38:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I think it is economics more than racism when it comes to convictions today… They did commit the crimes there is no denying that…but on average cannot afford the quality of legal representation that whites… who commit the same crimes…can afford.

No, they did not always commit the crimes and sometimes the "crimes" are things that shouldn't even be prosecuted.

Take 2 examples. Simple pot possession. White kid gets caught with a dime bag and the cops simply take it, happened to me a couple of times. Black kid gets caught with the same dime bag and he's going to jail and depending on the DA he might even get a distribution charge.

2 white guys fight outside a bar, nothing worse than a broken nose, cops break up the fight, both guys get taken in to sleep it off and get misdemeanor charges (I've seen it happen). 2 black guys fight outside a bar, again nothing worse than a broken nose, cops take the instigator in and charge him with felony assault and battery (saw it happen at the old Checkerboard, I got called as a witness). The guy got a year in jail because he got drunk and got in a fight.

Same "crimes,"  vastly different outcomes.




Since you don't know the criminal backgrounds, you don't know the crimes are the same, do you?

Really?

All those pot possession arrests that clog up the Chicago criminal courts are attempts to get criminal masterminds off the streets?
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/police-bust-blacks-pot-possession-after-decriminalization/Content?oid=13004240




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/9/2014 10:39:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I think it is economics more than racism when it comes to convictions today… They did commit the crimes there is no denying that…but on average cannot afford the quality of legal representation that whites… who commit the same crimes…can afford.

No, they did not always commit the crimes and sometimes the "crimes" are things that shouldn't even be prosecuted.

Take 2 examples. Simple pot possession. White kid gets caught with a dime bag and the cops simply take it, happened to me a couple of times. Black kid gets caught with the same dime bag and he's going to jail and depending on the DA he might even get a distribution charge.

2 white guys fight outside a bar, nothing worse than a broken nose, cops break up the fight, both guys get taken in to sleep it off and get misdemeanor charges (I've seen it happen). 2 black guys fight outside a bar, again nothing worse than a broken nose, cops take the instigator in and charge him with felony assault and battery (saw it happen at the old Checkerboard, I got called as a witness). The guy got a year in jail because he got drunk and got in a fight.

Same "crimes,"  vastly different outcomes.




Since you don't know the criminal backgrounds, you don't know the crimes are the same, do you?

Really?

All those pot possession arrests that clog up the Chicago criminal courts are attempts to get criminal masterminds off the streets?
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/police-bust-blacks-pot-possession-after-decriminalization/Content?oid=13004240


I'm guessing (and it's a gut feel) that it's.....to get pot sellers and possession (in a state where selling and possessing pot is still illegal) off the streets and to get people to quit selling and possessing pot.

(Could be wrong....rarely am.....can't remember the last time but.....it has happened).

See....there are laws.....and in states where pot is still illegal.....tax payers want the laws enforced.

Black, white, Hispanic....etc.

(Note that spell check ONLY comes up in error if I don't capitalize Blacks, Latino's, Asians, Jews.....whites....no prob).




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/9/2014 11:13:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BecomingV

In the early 70's, a black boy and I kissed. I am white and our friends were white. All summer, this group had fun, until Feaster and I kissed - then, we had to run like hell from the rocks being hurled at us. A few years later, I lost a job because of affirmative action. I was all about civil rights, so I accepted the loss with grace. Doing my part for the greater good and all that. The late 70's - my brother took the FBI special agent exam. He's white. The criteria was that a white guy's 95 was equal to a non-white guy's 75 in test scores. So, all else being equal, the lesser qualified was approved.

I thought affirmative action was about proportional access and not about lowering standards. While I can't speak for everywhere, I can say that I've seen harm done through affirmative action and do not support it as a means of creating equality.


And this same affirmative action is now being derided by Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton as more "proof" whites are holding the black man down because we're not letting him gain forward movement on his own....."by his own merit"....letting him prove himself with his own "95", a true "95"....even while deriding the SAT's because they're "white oriented".

"A rigged system".

SAT's aren't "white oriented", and they're not rigged.....they're skill oriented.

Asians, Jews and Latino's for some odd reason don't seem to hold on to this ridiculous masturbation. They simply study until they can equate their skills to the test which is, oddly enough, the test that determines whether or not you can cut the mustard and.....fit in.

There is no "white world"...whites are now firmly the minority in this country. It's a "skill oriented" system, and it has been for multiple decades.

Bring the skills....you'll get hired and....advanced.

BC Forbes (the man who started Forbes magazine in the early 1900's) stated very presciently: "of all thy getting, get knowledge".

Get knowledge.

Knowledge isn't white.

Knowledge is color blind. Knowledge doesn't care if your Mom was a maid or your Father was a janitor. Knowledge doesn't care if your parents (collectively) achieved the 7th grade. Knowledge doesn't care if there were books in your home, Andrew Carnegie saw to it that books were available to you....were you available to them? Knowledge never cared if you were a bad ass or a Princess waiting for her Prince. Knowledge only cares that you cared....enough to put the desire for it first.

To find it. To consume it. To devour it.

Lots of folks before you cared enough about knowledge....to get some.

Get some.

Knowledge ONLY cares if you give your best. Those that do, of any color or nationality....advance. Here in Redmond (Microsoft/Yahoo/Google) country, that's a proven fact. Indians (as in from India) outnumber, per capita, every other nationality as to tech hires...and they're all from one of the poorest countries on Earth.

They study.

Knowledge is a pair of ski's for a downhill slalom.

How you ski on them is up to you. Your finishing time is the only thing anyone gives a shit about.

The Wide World of sports films winners. Those that give their all.

Yet knowledge will leave you FAR behind if you ever try to "better deal" her.

Knowledge is about preparation.

Knowledge is the key to getting out of the starting gate exactly 0.0000014737 seconds earlier than the other guy.

And more often than not in this age of atomic clocks....that's the win.

Knowledge is the gold standard for winning. Get some.

Knowledge, skills and ability isn't white, Latino or Asian, and any suggestion that any others by virtue are destined to fail because someone is putting them in some kind of horrid position to fail is nothing less than a paragon of arrogance, and a pantheon of stupidity.

Whining insures a certainty of failure, and has it's own rewards. And you're welcome to them.

(None of which will help you cross the finish line first.....knowledge and preparation, however, will).

Winning has it's rewards as well. Those rewards require awareness.

And effort.




tweakabelle -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/10/2014 1:53:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

It's the same rule book for everyone, because it's the same game.

Pathetic.

We are being asked to pretend that the rules are the same for everyone, and that they are enforced equally across the board. If only this was true .....

The game is not the same for someone who starts off in an under-funded under-resourced school. The game is not the same for children growing up in impoverished households. The game is not the same for someone whose skin colour or ethnic background marks them out as 'different' from the majority. For example, Australian Aborigines have on average a life span c20 years shorter than white Australians. Even among white Australians the game is not the same for everyone. Womens' salaries are on average, c80% of mens' salaries.

Some individuals are so talented that they can rise above any mess and make good. Such talent is rare. Such individuals are very much the exception. Most people don't possess the mix of personal and intellectual qualities, perseverance and good fortune needed, whatever their ethnic background. It is delusory to pretend otherwise.

The devastating effects of crushing poverty, racism, social marginalisation and exclusion on individual and communal achievement are well documented. To pretend that the game is the same for everyone is to deny the mountains of research that record the negative effects of these forces on individuals and entire communities.

It would be wonderful if the game was the same for everyone. It would be wonderful if there really was a level playing field. The sad reality is that there isn't. Anywhere.




vincentML -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/10/2014 6:29:54 AM)

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One potential explanation suggests that the extreme and long-term social and economic disadvantage experienced by many urban blacks has resulted in cultural and normative adaptations that have removed important social constraints on violence (Anderson, 1994; Rose and McClain, 1990). While this position maintains the primacy of structural factors (e.g., socioeconomic deprivation) in determining aggregate rates of homicide, it also emphasizes the importance of crime-tolerant cultural responses that arise when deprivation is concentrated, extreme, and long term (Anderson, 1994; Rose and McClain, 1990).

To suggest that blacks in inner cities are crime tolerant is total bullshit and simply adds insult to injury. Crime tolerance? Mothers and fathers don't fret for the lives of their children? Crap!

btw, this research confirms my earlier observations on the history that created these isolated areas.

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However, once such a culture is in place it is difficult to dislodge. And I see little improvement in race relations resulting from whites trying to tell the residents of our inner-cities that their culture is dysfunctional. Fortunately, however, many have figured that out, some a long time ago, and it is they who must take the lead in their communities. I can think of nothing more insulting to any blacks with pride than this infernal notion that they need the help and guidance of white folk.

I never said they need help and guidance from white folks. You are inventing that shit. I said they need earlier intervention to develop reading skills and they need jobs. I can think of nothing more tragic to say to people they need to better themselves and then withhold the tools for them to do so. We live in a capitalist system but we withhold the flow of capital to where it is most needed within our own nation and send it to cheap slave labor in foreign nations. Your talk about "they" who must take the lead is a grotesque absolution for the nation that created the situation in the first place. Oh no, industrial America red-lined them into ghettos, moved the jobs elsewhere, and left them without the means to help themselves. Oh no, not our problem, inner city folks. You deal with it. Yeah, we created the problem, we shit on you, but its up to you to wipe yourself clean. Oh, sorry. No towels available for you.

Kirata, your empty rhetoric shifts the blame to the victims and lets white Americans either walk away or rage in racist anger against 'them.'




DomKen -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/10/2014 6:35:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: chloryformME

bullshit your ass.....Michael Jordan is caught on the phone calling the white player or players on his roster cracker or whatever and is demeaning....the same people who are jumping for joy over Donald would be claiming racism, saying the league is out to get MJ....same in the nfl, NHL, or whatever. Obama does it continuously.

It's funny. I've followed the President's career since he was first running for state senator. I've never heard him make an accusation that someone was a racist, ever. Despite the fact that many of the attacks on him were blatantly racial.

BTW you might not appear to be such a fool and a bigot if you'd learn to spell and use at least grade school grammar.


http://danfromsquirrelhill.wordpress.com/2013/09/18/obama-racist-test/

This involves an action by the civil rights division of the DoJ not a statement by the President.

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http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=obama+a+racist+against+white+people&qpvt=Obama+a+Racist+Against+White+People&FORM=VDRE#view=detail&mid=791F64404D9D2CF6A8F9791F64404D9D2CF6A8F9

A thoughtful statement about the racial reaction by his grandmother? He was not calling his grandmother a racist. He was saying that she had prejudice like everyone does.




DomKen -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/10/2014 6:39:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

I'm guessing (and it's a gut feel) that it's.....to get pot sellers and possession (in a state where selling and possessing pot is still illegal) off the streets and to get people to quit selling and possessing pot.

(Could be wrong....rarely am.....can't remember the last time but.....it has happened).

See....there are laws.....and in states where pot is still illegal.....tax payers want the laws enforced.

Black, white, Hispanic....etc.

(Note that spell check ONLY comes up in error if I don't capitalize Blacks, Latino's, Asians, Jews.....whites....no prob).

Note how the city changed the law so simple possession would only get you a ticket not an arrest and cops are still arresting minorities but not whites which they were never arresting for possession in the first place.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/10/2014 8:43:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

It's the same rule book for everyone, because it's the same game.

Pathetic.

We are being asked to pretend that the rules are the same for everyone, and that they are enforced equally across the board. If only this was true .....

The game is not the same for someone who starts off in an under-funded under-resourced school. The game is not the same for children growing up in impoverished households. The game is not the same for someone whose skin colour or ethnic background marks them out as 'different' from the majority. For example, Australian Aborigines have on average a life span c20 years shorter than white Australians. Even among white Australians the game is not the same for everyone. Womens' salaries are on average, c80% of mens' salaries.

Some individuals are so talented that they can rise above any mess and make good. Such talent is rare. Such individuals are very much the exception. Most people don't possess the mix of personal and intellectual qualities, perseverance and good fortune needed, whatever their ethnic background. It is delusory to pretend otherwise.

The devastating effects of crushing poverty, racism, social marginalisation and exclusion on individual and communal achievement are well documented. To pretend that the game is the same for everyone is to deny the mountains of research that record the negative effects of these forces on individuals and entire communities.

It would be wonderful if the game was the same for everyone. It would be wonderful if there really was a level playing field. The sad reality is that there isn't. Anywhere.


You get the same sun, and the same sunset.

Everything else is what you make of it.




thompsonx -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/10/2014 8:49:13 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


that whites are evil racist bastards who are completely responsible for the plight of
the black community.

We agree.



Your candor is is rather uncommon





thompsonx -> RE: Liberal delusions on racism (5/10/2014 8:51:15 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

You are the only one posting that this bigoted swill is good family fun.

Bigoted swill my ass. You just can't fucking read English.

This is english.


"It ain't white folks driving into our inner cities at night to paint gang signs on buildings, shoot the place up, and punch a few heads of kids who are trying to do well in school."







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