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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Last year, here in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsyltucky, there was a "National Day Of Prayer" event organized to include some bands and some speakers in the town square. I believe it was called: "Prayer on the Square".

I haven't lived here very long (just over a year) and I haven't delved too deeply into this (yet) but the square can be used by any group that gets a permit.

Before last year's event, a Justin Vancular (or something like that) obtained a permit to place a banner proclaiming: "Nothing Fails Like Prayer" above the bandstand.

I'm not arguing whether or not this is his right, as I believe it is but because of his banner, the banner for the event was removed.

When the god-haters engage in this kind of behavior, how can they bitch when an equal and opposite reaction comes forward (I'm planning on paying to place my own banner to depose his)?

I'm the "bad guy", of course because my spirituality banner will replace his.

He could have easily organized his own event, the next day or the next weekend, whatever. Instead, he chose to be a douche-canoe and opened the door for someone to be a douche-canoe toward him.

I'll be back. I'm going to go and grab my paddle.

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

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ORIGINAL: MistressKel

Aside from the fact that the Bible makes clear that prayer should be private (and no, I can't quote to you where I got that, just read the damn Bible and you'll know for yourself)...

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I think what you meant was, I don't like religion so they SHOULD KEEP IT PRIVATE, like it was something DIRTY or SHAMEFULL

When you push it on other people, it IS dirty and shameful...much more shameful than ANYTHING I've ever done.

Why can't Christians not accept the words, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT?

My Aunt...OMG. I quit going to holiday functions because she would corner me and push God on me. Despite my telling her that I'm good with God, and have my OWN relationship with him that I handle my OWN way. She continues to tell me that I need Jesus as my saviour...how the FUCK does this silly bitch KNOW what I need when she doesn't even listen to what I DO believe??? SO, the main reason I don't like public prayer is because it's bullshit and just a way to "weed out" 'unbelievers" so that they can target them for brainwashing.

isn't it nice to live in a country where you are free to express that opinion, to bad you don't feel everyone has that SAME RIGHT

you just FORCED YOUR OPINION ON ME DIDN'T YOU???

ohh wait, I didn't HAVE TO READ IT OR LISTEN TO IT DID I? just as YOU HAVE THAT SAME OPTION!

don't wanna be part of a religion DON'T GO TO A CHURCH, don't wanna listen to bible thumpers CLOSE THE DOOR, don't wanna hear a prayer at a pubic function STEP OUTSIDE

quit PRETENDING you are being FORCED!
seeeee you FIGURED IT OUT with your AUNT, JUST DON'T GO THERE, its called FREEDOM

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ORIGINAL: MistressKel

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

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ORIGINAL: MistressKel

Aside from the fact that the Bible makes clear that prayer should be private (and no, I can't quote to you where I got that, just read the damn Bible and you'll know for yourself)...

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I think what you meant was, I don't like religion so they SHOULD KEEP IT PRIVATE, like it was something DIRTY or SHAMEFULL

When you push it on other people, it IS dirty and shameful...much more shameful than ANYTHING I've ever done.

Why can't Christians not accept the words, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT?

My Aunt...OMG. I quit going to holiday functions because she would corner me and push God on me. Despite my telling her that I'm good with God, and have my OWN relationship with him that I handle my OWN way. She continues to tell me that I need Jesus as my saviour...how the FUCK does this silly bitch KNOW what I need when she doesn't even listen to what I DO believe??? SO, the main reason I don't like public prayer is because it's bullshit and just a way to "weed out" 'unbelievers" so that they can target them for brainwashing.

isn't it nice to live in a country where you are free to express that opinion, to bad you don't feel everyone has that SAME RIGHT

you just FORCED YOUR OPINION ON ME DIDN'T YOU???

ohh wait, I didn't HAVE TO READ IT OR LISTEN TO IT DID I? just as YOU HAVE THAT SAME OPTION!

don't wanna be part of a religion DON'T GO TO A CHURCH, don't wanna listen to bible thumpers CLOSE THE DOOR, don't wanna hear a prayer at a pubic function STEP OUTSIDE

quit PRETENDING you are being FORCED!
seeeee you FIGURED IT OUT with your AUNT, JUST DON'T GO THERE, its called FREEDOM

Dude, do you even READ the stuff you reply to? I think you're just trying to get everyone to look at you, whilst you scream for them to stop staring at you whilst asking them if they are assholes...Perhaps a case of Dissociative identity disorder? No? Yes? ALL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR ALL!! Your cognitive dissonance is frightening.

Don't bother attacking me spliffy, it won't get you anywhere because I've seen your prattling posts and do not value your opinion at all. Have a nice life. Before you whinge about it, remember that if you can't take it, then don't dish that shit out to other people--you may be a big doggie where you are, but here, you are just a poster in a forum...Buh bye Mr. Bully.

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I am not sure what gave you the impression he didn't read your post. He seems to have summed it up quite well.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: joether
That's right, the conservative justices once more handed the GOP another win.

You're making shit up again...

Though the decision split the court along ideological lines, the Obama administration backed the winning side ~Source

Lawyers for the Obama administration filed an amicus brief in favor of religious invocations at government meetings, arguing that the prayers in question do not amount to an unconstitutional establishment of religion. The administration's brief was signed by Donald B. Verrilli, Jr., Solicitor General; Stuart F. Delery, Acting Assistant Attorney General; Edwini S. Kneedler, Deputy Solicitor General, Sarah E. Harrington, Assistant to the Solicitor General; and attorneys Matthew M. Collette and Lowell V Sturgill, Jr.

Brief for the United States as Amicus Curiae supporting Petitioner

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ORIGINAL: MercTech

Hey guys, there never was a ban on prayer in public. There was a ruling that prayer in PUBLIC SCHOOLS where attendance was mandatory would be a violation of the rights of the students being forced to listen to a prayer from a religion other than their own. The key concepts were "mandatory attendance" and "public". Government funded mandatory cannot establish an official religious observation hence no religious observations sponsored by the school.

Prayer in a public meeting where attendance is not mandatory is another issue altogether.

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ORIGINAL: joether
If I go to a town meeting, I want to see things getting done in my town, not listen to 10 hours of religious prayers!

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Despite there being several Jewish synagogues and a Buddhist temple in the city the council only called on Christian ministers to give the invocation.

Yellowpages.com lists NO synagogues in Greece, NY.

http://www.yellowpages.com/greece-ny/synagogue

And according to the Christian Science Monitor, "a Wiccan priestess, a lay Jewish man, and a representative from a local Baha’i group" were invited to give invocations.

You have a nice day now.

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In 1999, the supervisor decided to start inviting members of the local clergy to present a prayer at the start of the board’s monthly meetings. Some of the prayers were oriented toward a particular faith and virtually all of the prayers were Christian. Many referred to Jesus and included references to “we” and “us,” suggesting that all persons present shared the same beliefs. 

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there's only a handful of non-Christians in the town.

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“That nearly all the congregations in town turned out to be Christian does not reflect an aversion or bias on the part of town leaders against minority faiths,” Kennedy said.