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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
...However, I feel certain that some young kid who's essentially harmless getting shot dead is a very rare event in the USA.

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

If I was that kids dad, I might seriously be thinking of going out there myself round about now.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

There you go, FD. LoneStaBlues has provided a neat picture of the wavelength that people are on out there. The context of threat and danger that they're used to just isn't part of our experience here in Western Europe. Myself, if I were that kid's dad, I wouldn't have let my son go out there in the first place, frankly.

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Teenagers call it garage hopping.

I didn't realize that there was a name for this.. however, otoh, this guy was 29, not a teenager and at that age you should have a pretty good idea how things work.. not to mention, the violence in America is no secret to the rest of the world.. here if you walk up someone's drive/walk for any legit reason you take a great risk (if its the home of a nutbar).. Here just this last week a nutbar came out shooting in the middle of the afternoon at tree trimmers hired by the electric company.. this particular nutbar was a precinct constable no less..

but that said.. imo this was definitely a trap, the open garage and purse as bait.. he put in cameras.. the shooter can deny all he wants but it was a trap.. just like another similar case, a guy waited in his basement in the dark and shot 2 young people, yes they were druggies and broke in there before, but the guy had a tarp on the floor waiting for them, he shot the young male 4 times that came down the stairs first, dragged his body away on the tarp (just like in the movies) and then waited, when the girl came down the stairs he shot her too multiple times.. he audio recorded the event.. He sat in wait for them, in the dark, he parked his vehicle on another street so the house would look no one was home.. He has been found guilty of murder, at least..

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

It would be utterly unrecognisable in this forum, FD. No point.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

There you go, FD. LoneStaBlues has provided a neat picture of the wavelength that people are on out there. The context of threat and danger that they're used to just isn't part of our experience here in Western Europe. Myself, if I were that kid's dad, I wouldn't have let my son go out there in the first place, frankly.

If I were that kid's dad I'd be wishing I had taken more time to teach my son that going, uninvited, into someone's home and committing a criminal act can have dire and unexpected consequences. BOTH people were stupid. Now, one is dead, the other facing charges. The kid is every bit as responsible as the guy that pulled the trigger. But in reading the responses so far it would seem that the anti-gun people want to ignore that fact. Just remember, the kid wouldn't be dead if he had not been breaking the law in the first place.

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874
I am sure you know the Whitechapel, Aldgate, Bethnal Green areas of London ???

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

It's a different world, Igor. It really is. People over here in Europe do silly things occasionally, like they probably do everywhere. But we older adults don't feel the need to inspire terror in them for being berks that they are because berks here so rarely get killed for being berks. That's *your* world, Igor. I can't be bothered to get into an argument about whether or not it's somehow better in the USA because everyone has this freedom to kill and I sure as *hell* have no interest in entertaining the bleating and whining from certain Americans here about how we Europeans look down on them. All I can say is that I want no part of that sort of world, ever, because I find it disgusting.