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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 7:27:14 AM

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That is the nature of porn. Porn is a form of kink. Denigrating anothers kink is pretty low rent on a kink forum don't you think?

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 7:32:38 AM

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Everyone is scantily clad in my country,

Bullshit

tank tops and micro shorts, super short mini skirts, even if they are not going to a party, because it's 100% humidity 24/7 and the sun is burning hot here,

I rode a pushbike from bangkok to singapore. I am not unaware of the climate on the malay penensual.

and even at night, it's like a sauna,

Perhaps "global warming" is more prevelent in your zip code. When I was there (summer of 1967) nite time temps were typically in the 80's hardly a sauna.

and if I had a choice, I just stay naked.

Me too.

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 7:35:25 AM

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Is there a hierarchy of kink in which some kink is more noble than others?

Absolutely, I would put pedophilia right at the bottom of that nobility.

My understanding is that pedophilia is a crime so by definition it is not a kink.

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 7:38:59 AM

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That is the nature of porn. Porn is a form of kink. Denigrating anothers kink is pretty low rent on a kink forum don't you think?

Talking to another human being live is not porn.

Infact, why are these guys doing it to girls that interact with them live? They should either pay to do it with women who does this for a living, because they are offering a service as their job, or wank to Porn.

Arent these men paying these women to interact with them on line?
If so then by what definition is that not porn?
If one pays for goods or services that is ok unless it is porn?

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 7:42:37 AM

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During a state training on sexual assault counseling, the post below is exactly like the ones presented as "red flags" to a rapist mentality. It takes years, if ever, for that mindset to become healthy or whole.

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While I agree they are idiots, I wonder whether that would be your advice to drunk/partially-dressed college girls who get raped at a party.

Tim's statement is in response to two other posters claiming that the "victim had it comming"
If the scantily clad rape victim did not have it coming to her then the wanking perv also did not have it coming to him.

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 7:53:41 AM

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Tim's statement is in response to two other posters claiming that the "victim had it comming"
If the scantily clad rape victim did not have it coming to her then the wanking perv also did not have it coming to him.

I never said they had it coming, I simply say, I feel no sympathy for them. I have no fondness for men who objectify women. I believe if there are more connection than just that, this would not have happened. But I still wouldn't say they have it coming because I bet they have done this alot and nothing happened. They just pick the wrong girl to mess with.

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 7:56:44 AM

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Arent these men paying these women to interact with them on line?
If so then by what definition is that not porn?
If one pays for goods or services that is ok unless it is porn?

You are putting both together.
1) Pay a reputable professional who specialise in your fantasy, fine, and seriously it's her job, and she needs referals or more business, so you won't get blackmailed and since it's her job, she won't get hurt.
2) Watch Porn, it's not live, the other lady feelings cannot get hurt.
3) Randomly find some vulnerable chick online to flash wank yourself to, and treat her like an object, if you mess with the wrong one, do expect backlash. Treating another human being like an object is usually not wise, even if it's a kink.

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 7:58:26 AM

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My understanding is that pedophilia is a crime so by definition it is not a kink.

I didn't know kinks can only be kinks if it is legal by law. Don't think that is in the definition of what is a kink.

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 8:02:20 AM

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Everyone is scantily clad in my country,

Bullshit

tank tops and micro shorts, super short mini skirts, even if they are not going to a party, because it's 100% humidity 24/7 and the sun is burning hot here,

I rode a pushbike from bangkok to singapore. I am not unaware of the climate on the malay penensual.

You rode into Singapore and you don't see scantily clad women all over the streets??? Are you blind? Did you ever go Orchard road in the afternoon? Our women here flash alot of skin, and it's not unnoticed by Caucasian dudes usually. Local boys are used to it, so they don't care. Also, probably also, I always say this, when our local women has no boobs or ass, and they wear tank tops and micro shorts, nobody blinks an eye, because there are no curves, so it does not attract sexual attention. Now put a woman with boobs and ass on the same attire, and then she looks overtly sexual. It's probably why you didn't notice too.

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Perhaps "global warming" is more prevelent in your zip code. When I was there (summer of 1967) nite time temps were typically in the 80's hardly a sauna.

If you were here only back in the 80's, probably why you didn't see scantily clad women then, because it was the 80's, and also, yes there were less skycrapers, although still alot then, but not as much as now, it's freaking sauna at night out here. I'm always sweating like a pig being outside.

See this picture, woman on the left, tank top, micro shorts and flip flop or ballerina flats, most typical everyday attire of a Singaporean woman on the streets.

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 8:04:28 AM

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AND, here we go... A raped person never has it coming. That's just some sick crap some twisted (rape mentality) types say to blame the victim, but more importantly, to encourage and support the pandemic of rape.

This completely different situation involves two consenting adults, who engaged in risky play, that any adult knows, entails the risk of exposure. Pun intended. What happened to these guys was awful but the consequence is loss of privacy.

At no point, did these guys risk having genitals ripped, their bodies broken, contracting AIDS, etc... is it getting clear now?

So, if a person has the mentality of a rapist, they are not going to be able to see the extreme difference in the two scenarios.

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During a state training on sexual assault counseling, the post below is exactly like the ones presented as "red flags" to a rapist mentality. It takes years, if ever, for that mindset to become healthy or whole.

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While I agree they are idiots, I wonder whether that would be your advice to drunk/partially-dressed college girls who get raped at a party.

Tim's statement is in response to two other posters claiming that the "victim had it comming"
If the scantily clad rape victim did not have it coming to her then the wanking perv also did not have it coming to him.

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 8:05:04 AM

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OMG. Excuse me, NO ONE said the victims "had it coming". That was your own conclusion. See, this is where you have problems, sticking to the topic. Instead, you like to stretch and twist words and statements and create all kinds of new scenarios and contexts. If you want to change the scenario, why don't you start a new thread? You can't even carry on a decent debate about a topic because you create new ones with every post.

There's a big difference between being stupid and doing what you were warned not to do, and "having it coming". You won't see it, though. You'll be off on some other irrelevant-to-the-topic tangent. Or just make one up to distract yourself, what the hell.

As far as snark ribbons, thank you, it's not like you'll notice any missing, lol.

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 10:08:33 AM

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Actually, that is what was said.

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With all the warnings posted and spoken everywhere about not putting yourself out there on the internet, if anyone gets "caught", it's their own fault, IMO. Some people just need to learn things the hard way.

Clearly, in your view, they deserve to be victims of a crime.

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 10:42:00 AM

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Nope, not my view at all. You clearly are incapable of comprehension so maybe you should focus on simpler concepts.

It's intriguing how alike you and your thompson-twin cohort think, lol.

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 10:47:45 AM

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I'll be honest, my first thought wasn't very sympathetic either. But on second thought, other than the one example given where the man was obviously doing this behind his girlfriend's back, we don't know that any of the guys were doing anything remotely immoral. I could be having mutually satisfying, consensual, not-cheating cam sex with someone. Doesn't mean I still wouldn't be mortified if my kids or parents were sent the video. Doesn't mean it wouldn't put my job at risk if my boss knew there were pornographic images of me circulating on the internet.

We really don't know that these guys were up to no good. They may not have been cheating. They may have felt these encounters were 100% mutual and not be trying to treat women as an object (I know it's not as common, but some women do like casual sex too, even online).

So yeah, I have some sympathy.

But no. It's not equivalent to rape.

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 10:50:04 AM

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Hide behind insults if you like. Not very adult of you.

I quoted you, and I can read just fine.

If you want to pretend otherwise, so be it.

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 11:03:08 AM

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For me, morality has nothing to do with it, but the fact that I'm not sympathetic doesn't mean I also think they deserved to be hurt.

I'm not saying the ones causing the harm shouldn't be held responsible.....IF you can catch them. Since that is so unlikely, you HAVE to take responsibility for your own actions.

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 11:05:22 AM

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Definitely chancey, but no one should be subject, to extortion. Who is to say some of them aren't single guys just trying to have a safe good time?

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 11:06:08 AM

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Hide behind insults if you like. Not very adult of you.

I quoted you, and I can read just fine.

If you want to pretend otherwise, so be it.

I didn't say you couldn't quote and read and cut and paste. I just pointed out that you were wrong in your interpretation of what I said. I'm not hiding anywhere, I'm right out in the open here.

You are wrong in your interpretation. If you want to believe otherwise, you are welcome to. But you're still wrong.

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 12:02:01 PM

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Hide behind insults if you like. Not very adult of you.

I quoted you, and I can read just fine.

If you want to pretend otherwise, so be it.

"It's intriguing how alike you and your thompson-twin cohort think, lol."

Go on tim tell em about your "ol buddy" thompson

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RE: Police warn men over online 'sextortion' - 5/16/2014 12:05:35 PM

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yeah really -- first time anyone has even pretended we agree!