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cloudboy -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 9:39:36 AM)
I suppose we can't be surprised conservative here don't give a shit. How on earth can Fox News play this one?

subrob1967 -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 10:33:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 FR Is anyone else amazed by the thought process of progressives? The people crying about this are the same people crying for government run single payer healthcare. What do you think the government is going to do to the remains of people with no loved ones left to claim the remains? That and the fact that "progressives" need to go five + years into history to detract from Obummer's fuck-ups. Screen captures *still* RULE! ya feel me? Not to mention none of them can prove the government actually buries unclaimed bodies, or gives the deceased any sort of "dignity. I really don't see any difference between a paupers field and a landfill.

mnottertail -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 10:39:35 AM)
Thats why people like you are not allowed outside their institutions among the real people.

igor2003 -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 11:51:23 AM)
--FR-- Since this thread is kinda about W, I'll just say that I always have considered him something of a jerk of the first magnitude. However, there are enough things about him to not like that using this as a means to further degrade him is something of a moot point. And about the means of discarding partial remains, I'm really of two minds. I fully understand the need and desire to honor and respect the deceased and hold them in high regard. But it is the PERSON that is remembered...not bits and pieces of that person. If a friend or relative loses a limb due to illness or injury, do we hold a burial ceremony for that lost limb? No, we let the hospital get rid of the appendage, and good riddance. And guess where that appendage ends up. It's not Forest Lawn. But do we care? No. We still honor and respect the PERSON that the appendage used to be attached to. Also, I have a theoretical question...Let's say a serviceman is in a vehicle hit by an RPG. In the blast he survives, but loses an arm, and at the time the lost appendage can't be found. Later it is found and ends up as one of those bits and pieces in question in the OP. Does the lost arm of the living serviceman still raise the same amount of ire as when the appendage is that of a dead serviceman if or when it ends up cremated and in a landfill? Personally, I do think that such remains should have a tomb or shrine in which they can be kept, something like the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. But it's not something I would get worked up about either way.

mnottertail -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 12:08:16 PM)
Uh, sorry, human waste from hospitals do not end up in landfills, try again. And I am thinking if all that is left is an arm of a guy who died in service to us, just like remains coming back from WW2 and Korea and Vietnam still today, we try to find a way to identify, and if not possible they get interment in a national cemetery.

mnottertail -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 12:10:52 PM)
Lets do it this way, lets have a documentary, showing the landfills in america, put it on prime time the 26th, and say, this is where your MIA, KIA and loved ones are being interred here at the national cemetery, city dump, as a rememberence to their service to our great nation, where they will be surrounded by debris and stench and peaceful while skunks eat whats left, and dogs run around chewing on their nuts. I approve this message, vote nutsacker 2014. Big stuff there, guys. Own the shit.

greywlf -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 12:25:27 PM)
EVERY MEMBER OF THE SERVICE NOW HAS THEIR DNA COLLECTED SO THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT WHO THEY ARE REGARDLESS OF THE CONDITION OF THE REMAINS.

mnottertail -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 12:26:40 PM)
yeah, except some of the remains are so damaged dna tests are not possible, as stated in the article. BUT THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP.

BitYakin -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 12:30:24 PM)
you make it sound like there are 274 families who didn't get a funeral/flag because their loved one's bodies were cremated then disposed of... Only someone who had not read the op would think that? noo just someone who reads and UNDERSTANDS ENGLISH " ever since she got a report on her husband's autopsy and learned that some of the remains had not been put in the casket for his funeral, according to The Post." did they AUTOPSY and empty casket? kinda have to have a BODY for an AUTOPSY huh? ohh wait it also mentioned HIS FUNERAL... add that to the fact that, in the 2nd paragraph it says "The incinerated partial remains of at least 274 American troops" what it does NOT SAY is BODIES. I'd be willing to BET, it they were BODIES, it MIGHT have been mentioned SOMEPLACE in the article soo MAYBE I did read it, and maybe you should brush up on your comprehension skills

BitYakin -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 12:38:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail yeah, except some of the remains are so damaged dna tests are not possible, as stated in the article. BUT THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP. sooo its POSSIBLE some of these remains weren't even AMERICAN SOLDIERS, possibly enemy combatants "so damaged dna tests are not possible" THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP!

mnottertail -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 12:41:44 PM)
Uh, when we see shit blown to hell with M16s and desert camo and humvees burning all around them and people are missing we can safely assume over half of them are americans. So, I wouldn't start masturbating over some stupid shit like you just said.

BitYakin -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 12:50:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Uh, sorry, human waste from hospitals do not end up in landfills, try again. And I am thinking if all that is left is an arm of a guy who died in service to us, just like remains coming back from WW2 and Korea and Vietnam still today, we try to find a way to identify, and if not possible they get interment in a national cemetery. oppssss not according to BYU anyway... I found the answer here: theboard.byu.edu/index.p… QDear 100 Hour Board, What happens to amputated limbs once they are cut off? Ask Jeeves just doesn't know. -Anxious Amputee Direct Link to Question ADear Amputee, There are two categories of amputated limbs: those amputated in a traumatic event and those that are surgically removed. For a limb that is cut off in an unexpected, traumatic manner, the goal is to try and save the limb and allow surgeons to reattach it if possible. In that case, the limb should be wrapped in wet gauze, sealed in a plastic bag, and then the bag should be placed in ice and brought to the hospital with the patient. For limbs that are surgically removed or those that are severed and cannot be reattached, they are treated as Biomedical waste and are disposed of. Disposal of biomedical waste is a subject of some controversy, as each type of waste requires different disposal techniques to ensure that there will not be any spreading of contamination. For human tissue, it is sometimes burned, and sometimes sterilized and sent to landfills

mnottertail -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 12:54:13 PM)
Yeah, so what? This is not biomedical waste, it is the remains. This ain't a piece cut off, this is the piece left. Wake the fuck up. It doesnt end up in landfills, special secure landfills are required, just like for cemeteries. You don't want to be drinking that bone water sport, get you a glass of cancer, TB, HIV or dysentary tall cool iced drinks, yanno?

BitYakin -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 1:03:39 PM)
what part of STERILIZED went over your head? one might presume, that which couldn't be sterilized gets incinerated

mnottertail -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 1:04:42 PM)
No part, what part of weapons grade stupid are you staking out?

BitYakin -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 1:06:23 PM)
apparently some part of it must have cause you claimed you can get DISEASES from sterilized parts what a SURPRIZE, when your answered and its makes sense you call the person STUPID yeahh WHAT AN ARGUMENT!

mnottertail -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 1:22:24 PM)
What part of your hallucination is not fucking ignorant. American soldiers, who are not whole remains but body parts are thrown in a fucking landfill. Put it up on a nutsacker reason to vote for putrid fucks like nutsackers. Proudly proclaim it, don't sit there and talk about biomedical waste, or biomedical waste landfills. These were people serving their country, and if unknown, if a goddamn hair is left, should be buried and remembered. Even if it is a collective grave or area set aside. Nutsackers vote for the wars, but by god do not do the right thing by the wounded and dead. Course, I am a veteran and have served my country, and none of us made this contract with america, america should keep their contracts with their people. Nutsackers as we are all quite awar have no such patriotism or common decency.

BitYakin -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 1:22:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Yeah, so what? This is not biomedical waste, it is the remains. This ain't a piece cut off, this is the piece left. Wake the fuck up. It doesnt end up in landfills, special secure landfills are required, just like for cemeteries. You don't want to be drinking that bone water sport, get you a glass of cancer, TB, HIV or dysentary tall cool iced drinks, yanno? PS. my reply was in response to you saying "Uh, sorry, human waste from hospitals do not end up in landfills, try again." earlier might wanna remember what YOU actually said before you start calling people STUPID! you feel free to claim what was posted at BYU.EDU is INCORRECT all ya want, you said what you said I posted something that REFUTES your statement... hey moderator, wasn't there some mention of still not being able to ATTACK the poster

mnottertail -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 1:24:57 PM)
and they do not, they end up in secure landfills .....special landfills to you, that must meet stringent quarentine and segregation requirements, cuz you don't want to be drinking that bonewater, and even a human limb should be shown reverence, they don't go into general landfills. Not legally.

BitYakin -> RE: more on Ws warcrimes. (5/21/2014 1:29:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail and they do not, they end up in secure landfills .....special landfills to you, that must meet stringent quarentine and segregation requirements, cuz you don't want to be drinking that bonewater, and even a human limb should be shown reverence, they don't go into general landfills. Not legally. says you, I didn't see that mentioned in the post from BYU, but if YOU SAY IT, then it MUST BE TRUE OOOOOOOK I KNOW, maybe you could show , I don't know ANYTHING that's supports what you say????

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