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Cinnamongirl67 -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 8:38:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance UMM, it can't be the end! I freaking MUST know who was killed!!! Win, as long as you've got an internet connection come Monday, (I'm estimating) October 10, you won't be able to help but know. Variety, The Hollywood Reporter, Entertainment Weekly, and every other organization that has somebody doing reviews of television shows will have somebody doing a commentary as soon as they can get it out there. However, if it makes you feel better, I went looking for an article about frustrating/unresolved cliffhangers. Link - http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/last-episodes-cliffhangers/ I, just now, found out who killed Samantha on "Reunion" over ten years later. http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/reunion-killers-identity-revealed-for-cancelled-fox-show/ She is just a whore. She is the hotel California.

Nnanji -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 8:39:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Nnanji ORIGINAL: thompsonx When you document your CIA assassins I'll document the gang bangers home invasions. The High Standard HDM is a semiautomatic pistol equipped with an integral sound suppressor.[1] Based on the High Standard HD model target pistol, it was adopted by the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) during World War II. OSS head Bill Donovan demonstrated the pistol to President Franklin Roosevelt inside the Oval Office. Because of legal concerns during wartime, full-metal-jacketed .22 LR rounds were developed for this pistol. It is still found in United States inventories, including that of the CIA, United States Marines, and Special Forces https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Standard_HDM Oh...and...the Air Force still gives pilots .22's. It's not to shoot bad guys while escaping and evading. It's to provide food while escaping and evading. I did not mention the air farce. I mentioned gary powers who worked for the cia...and got hosed by the air farce when he was released from prison. His weapon was had an intergral sound supressor..you do not need a sound supressed pistol to hunt rabits. Actually, in many parts of Europe it's required.

kdsub -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 8:44:47 PM)
Check the rest of the links.. better yet... do a search for mass murders at fast food and see what you find. Butch

thompsonx -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 8:45:08 PM)
ORIGINAL: Nnanji ORIGINAL: thompsonx http://bearingarms.com/shoot-to-wound-vs-shoot-to-stop-vs-shoot-to-kill/ Further, if you are foolish enough to state out loud that you only shot to wound, it opens the door to the State arguing that you lacked the good faith subjective fear of imminent death or grave bodily harm necessary to justify your use of deadly force. After all, if you’d feared imminent death, you’d have shot to neutralize the threat decisively, not just make him more angry with a pistol-caliber bullet wound to an extremity. If there was no genuine fear of death or grave bodily harm, your use of deadly force was not lawful self-defense, and off to jail you go. Still waiting for a cite that shows someone went to jail for a non lethal shot. All you have posted so far is chin music.

BamaD -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 8:45:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: BamaD BTW you never did come up with any expert, other than yourself, who advocates foot shooting. Had you been paying attention to anything but your own ego you may have noticed that I mentioned several times it was my opinion and only my opinion. Yes, I did notice, your opinion vs that of virtually every self defense expert in the world, I only say virtually because there may be one person somewhere who you would consider an expert who agrees with you. Hasn't it occured to you that insisting on a position opposed by virtually every expert in the feild makes you the self defense equivilant of a flat earther? The sheer arrogance should even be apparent to you.

Nnanji -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 8:46:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Nnanji ORIGINAL: thompsonx Shooting to wound or to warn also, in court, lends credence to the idea that you didn't have fear for your life. Really????how so??? In California law...you look it up, I have...the Castle Doctrine states that you may use deadly force if you are in imminent danger of death or great bodily injury. The law presumes you had the right to use deadly force unless the prosecutor can provide contrary evidence. This is in the law Shooting to wound is such evidence, shooting warning shots is such evidence. Actually, shooting to warn turns the roles around and legally provides the home invader with evidence that his/her life is in imminent danger. This is not the law in fact the law is the exact opposit. So clearly you have not looked up the law. 3) California’s stand-your-ground defense as part of the justifiable homicide rules has several conditions. Aggressors are not eligible for this — you must be defending, not striking first. Ya, it the law, upheld at the appellate level and, in fact, part of the jury instructions a judge has to provide the jury.

thompsonx -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 8:46:21 PM)
ORIGINAL: BamaD This is in line with what I said earlier. While shooting not to kill may not in and of itself be a crime, it can and is used as evidence against the person trying to defend themselves without harming the poor unfortunate criminal. You keep saying that but you have yet to show one case where it has happened.

thompsonx -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 8:50:46 PM)
ORIGINAL: Nnanji ORIGINAL: thompsonx It should be pointed out that the Castle Doctrine gives a person the right to use lethal force. It does not give a person the right to non-lethal maiming. Non-lethally maiming is not legal, as far as I know, anywhere. I have posted the california law and it most certainly does say that very thing. In fact it demands it. Note the part about proportionality. I'm not saying Castle Doctrine laws can't be changed to allow non-lethal maiming if enough people are idiots enough to want it. But I will bet a dollar to a donut there is no such law now. The law has been posted for you to read. So not only could he not double tap a moving toe at 25 yards, attempting to do so would be illigal and give the home invader the right to claim his life was in imminent danger and legally use deadly force in return. Which, by the way, most felons picked up by police after being in a gunfight actually do claim. You really need to read up on the law before posting such ignorance.

thompsonx -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 8:54:01 PM)
ORIGINAL: Nnanji ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: lovmuffin I don't believe you can double tap a one inch moving target at 25 yards in a third of a second, I promise I won't call you a liar. Your foot is not moving when it is planted for that third of a second. A golf ball is never moving when a golfer swings at it. It bigger than a toe. Few people hit it well standing right next to it. You are mistaken. Go to any driving range and watch people whacking that ball all over the place. I tell you what, we'll put a golf ball at 25 yards, yell go, then I'll pull a string attached to the golf ball and you shoot. I'll give you a whole box of ammunition, 50 rounds. If you hit the golf ball once I'll give you $1,000. If you don't, you buy me a donut. Revlon if you want to accept the challange all you have to do is show up at base legal with your toes and the money.

thompsonx -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 8:56:36 PM)
ORIGINAL: Nnanji ORIGINAL: Cinnamongirl67 I like McDonald's. My kids love McDonald's. We back McDonald's. Now if you all don't like McDonald's. Go live on an island or say no. Don't be concerned about our arteries. Recent studies have shown clogged arteries have nothing to do with what you eat. It's hereditary. Wrong. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071030120547.htm

thompsonx -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 9:00:32 PM)
ORIGINAL: Nnanji ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: lovmuffin Except for the fact that it is not true. You have yet to produce one court case where a less than lethal shot got the shooter convicted for anything. Try here: www.http//googleshootingtowoundisstoopudandyouwillfindmorelinkstoshitthanicouldevertypeoutonasinayearthatwilladdressyourinquirey Link does not work...but then you knew that. http://bearingarms.com/shoot-to-wound-vs-shoot-to-stop-vs-shoot-to-kill/ Further, if you are foolish enough to state out loud that you only shot to wound, it opens the door to the State arguing that you lacked the good faith subjective fear of imminent death or grave bodily harm necessary to justify your use of deadly force. After all, if you’d feared imminent death, you’d have shot to neutralize the threat decisively, not just make him more angry with a pistol-caliber bullet wound to an extremity. If there was no genuine fear of death or grave bodily harm, your use of deadly force was not lawful self-defense, and off to jail you go. More chin music

Cinnamongirl67 -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 9:05:41 PM)
Here's your challenge. Get out. Take your trashy mouth and trashy whores too, bitch. You have something to say? To bad. Get out, enjoy your escorts.

thompsonx -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 9:06:21 PM)
ORIGINAL: Nnanji ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: BamaD Air farce aircrews do not carry silenced pistols. Garry powers was in the cia at the time of his capture not the air farce. Again, there is no such thing as a silencer or a silenced pistol. http://www.silencershop.com/silencers/pistol.html In my experience, crews flying over hostile territory pretty much carry what they want. Just when have you flown over hostile territory? You didn't read Gary Powers book did you? You're winging it. Powers was flying a plane for the CIA when he was shot down. Yup he was in the cia while flying that plane He was an Air Force trained pilot, in a plane developed for the AirForce, flying from Air Force fields. For the cia You're going to have to give me a cite for what Air Force crews carry on combat missions. They carry what they are told to carry.

thompsonx -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 9:09:46 PM)
ORIGINAL: Nnanji ORIGINAL: thompsonx There are some specific cases where that sort of foolishness is done. A simple google search would allow you to discover at what age medical doctors agree that the human brain is fully formed and capable of making rational decissions. There is a reason why there is an age restriction for being a congressman,senator or president in this country. It would follow from that why the age restriction for joining the military is so low. What adult with a fully formed brain would join the military? My uncle went to Annapolis and gave his life for his country. So what? My father was in the Air Force. I was an Air Force brat. I know many people, men and women, who join and reenlist. So what? I find them to be smart, resourceful honorable people. So what? You wouldn't understand that it seems. It appears you ridicule much more than understand such things as honor and commitment to something larger than yourself. Roflmfao...you can take that gungie shit and put it where the sun don't shine.

Nnanji -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 9:10:00 PM)
Kak quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Nnanji ORIGINAL: thompsonx Shooting to wound or to warn also, in court, lends credence to the idea that you didn't have fear for your life. Really????how so??? The bulls eye on a 25 yard pistol target is 1.51" in diameter. Why do you think that is too difficult for someone who knows how to shoot? Lol, you went to look that up to look smart didn't you? Actually, you're describing a slow fire target. The bullseye on a rapid fire target is 5-1/2".

thompsonx -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 9:12:53 PM)
ORIGINAL: Cinnamongirl67 Here's your challenge. Get out. Take your trashy mouth and trashy whores too, bitch. You have something to say? To bad. Get out, enjoy your escorts. More chin music

stef -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 9:13:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Once again, please show where it is against the law to shoot to wound... Did I ever say it was illegal to "shoot to wound"? quote: or is this you once again trying to get my attention like some post pubescent school girl socking the object of her affection in hopes that he will chase her down and pull her hair. In your dreams, Grandpa. The only thing you're chasing down is your rapidly approaching deathbed.

WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 9:14:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cinnamongirl67 Here's your challenge. Get out. Take your trashy mouth and trashy whores too, bitch. You have something to say? To bad. Get out, enjoy your escorts. Your posts are very random and strange.

Nnanji -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 9:14:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Nnanji ORIGINAL: thompsonx There are some specific cases where that sort of foolishness is done. A simple google search would allow you to discover at what age medical doctors agree that the human brain is fully formed and capable of making rational decissions. There is a reason why there is an age restriction for being a congressman,senator or president in this country. It would follow from that why the age restriction for joining the military is so low. What adult with a fully formed brain would join the military? My uncle went to Annapolis and gave his life for his country. So what? My father was in the Air Force. I was an Air Force brat. I know many people, men and women, who join and reenlist. So what? I find them to be smart, resourceful honorable people. So what? You wouldn't understand that it seems. It appears you ridicule much more than understand such things as honor and commitment to something larger than yourself. Roflmfao...you can take that gungie shit and put it where the sun don't shine. Lol, you've demonstrated very well you just don't get things that are more than six inches from you. You can have the last word. You're not worth talking to.

stef -> RE: Does self defense allow you to beat someone to death"? (4/6/2016 9:15:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Me and stef gots history... Only in your overactive imagination. quote: she claims she does not like my apples but she keeps shakin' my tree.[;)] Apples? More like raisins, I'll bet.

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