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LookieNoNookie -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/24/2014 10:14:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten And you sound like a bleeding heart pain in the ass. Seriously... Im a 6 foot 2 black man with an 18 inch penis... Regardless of the fact Im Not... I said it on the internet so it must be true.... I take issue with the story as there are no really good (read top medical care) hospitals in cardiology for kids in CA That specialize in the condition the "kid" has. All of them are on the east coast.... I am a white man with a 47 inch inch penis. I am the only known male in North America who can actually cum BEFORE I actually arrive.

Capablanca -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/24/2014 10:26:36 PM)
To whoever's watching: Clicking on names on this side still goes to CollarMe, although clicking in profile pics goes to collarspace. greping the codebase for "collarme.com" would be a good idea.

DeviantlyD -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/24/2014 10:42:17 PM)
Someone's watching?!!?!? [image]http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.9818063.8071/flat,550x550,075,f.jpg[/image] Officially creeped out Ahem. :P

punisher440 -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/24/2014 10:43:25 PM)
FR I clicked on an old email notice and got directed to the blog Tiffany started on the old domain and read this interesting post in response to her blog....which I happen to agree with. "Until you give the accused equal exposure, on this forum, you cannot ever validate anything you are saying. It could very well be that you are in fact a jilted lover who is only out to seek revenge, and not caring about all the thousands of people you affect in the process, or it could be that everything you have stated, as you have stated it is absolutely true. We cannot ever know because all the evidence required to make an informed opinion is not available to all of us, nor will it ever be. To make this all public disgusts me. Airing dirty laundry is never the proper way to go about getting what is rightfully yours, even if it honestly is. And what disgusts me further is that you are using your daughters ailment to justify your taking the site down. With all due respect, and I feel horrible about what your daughter suffers from and how it must affect you personally, this post was not the place for that information. You certainly do not want your daughters information to be associated with the history of collarme. That is something that will follow her around for life. You affected thousands of people, in a negative way, and the only reason any of them are not saying what I am is because you pulled the “my daughter suffers from a serious medical condition” card. Otherwise, if we were to remove that information, what you have stated would never justify putting so many people out in the cold. If you are going to commit to providing a space for people to connect, specially when it’s so difficult to do so in real life, then don’t change your mind because things get hard and take the site down to exact your own personal flavor of revenge. What about the other people who work for collarme? Do you honestly think that the site will ever be able to attract advertisers ever again? And if you put up another site, do you honestly think, given your inclination to take a site down because of emotional reasons, that anyone would invest, or advertise with you again? You’re crazy if you do, if I were an advertiser, I wouldn’t want to be associated with someone’s petty squabbles or personal drama. I certainly wouldn’t want to be associated with a site like collarme, if I am selling goods and services, that brings babies into a personal fight with a business associate. That’s just sick. The more I think about this entire dramatic situation, the more I am realizing that regardless if or not what you have stated is the absolute truth, you still never should have exposed it on public forum, you should never have brought your baby daughter into this mess, and you certainly should not have murdered the only method you will ever be paid by, that being the website and the money generated with ads. And I think if you consult with a lawyer, you w ill find that doing what you have done, ruining the businesses ability to generate income and operate, will in the end enable the people who actually own collarme to sue you instead. I would think very carefully on this point, because regardless if the website is in your name or not, if it can be proven in court, that the actual business is owned by someone else, the website follows. If the name is trademarked, even if you own the website, it can be taken away from you. It would be just like a company like AT&T owning their name, and someone else buying AT&T.com. AT&T would sue, and win the rights to the website. There are numerous cases of exactly this all over the internet if you just simply google, and read them. Phffft, I am thoroughly and utterly disgusted, Your “partner” has yet to say anything in response, I am not sure if that’s just because they are less inclined to drama, or they are running away from it but whatever the reasons, I prefer that over this. How very sad that you chose to affect so many good people with your personal life in such a horribly negative way."

tj444 -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/24/2014 10:52:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie we don't pay shit. (Thank you....whoever you are). yeah, we don't pay anything.. if we did then these two and who knows how many others would have access to our credit card info, banking info, our real names, addresses, etc.. with all the drama going on here, how comfortable with that would any of us be? You cant trust any business with your info anymore, the Target breach and the Experion fiasco, etc, etc, etc have shown us how vulnerable we are if those people running the business are incompetent..

DeviantlyD -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/24/2014 10:56:43 PM)
I would be on the side of disagreeing with that post, punisher440. I didn't see Tiffany's post as "using" her daughter. I don't think it would be fruitful to go into an explanation why. Just that I see it differently. Perhaps more should be compassionate. Until you (the general "you" as in everyone here) are in her shoes (or even his for that matter) you cannot truly know what the motivating factors were and are. As far as I can tell, not a single user had their life irrevocably changed because of what's gone on with CollarMe over the last couple of days.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/24/2014 11:00:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: punisher440 FR I clicked on an old email notice and got directed to the blog Tiffany started on the old domain and read this interesting post in response to her blog....which I happen to agree with. "Until you give the accused equal exposure, on this forum, you cannot ever validate anything you are saying. It could very well be that you are in fact a jilted lover who is only out to seek revenge, and not caring about all the thousands of people you affect in the process, or it could be that everything you have stated, as you have stated it is absolutely true. We cannot ever know because all the evidence required to make an informed opinion is not available to all of us, nor will it ever be. To make this all public disgusts me. Airing dirty laundry is never the proper way to go about getting what is rightfully yours, even if it honestly is. And what disgusts me further is that you are using your daughters ailment to justify your taking the site down. With all due respect, and I feel horrible about what your daughter suffers from and how it must affect you personally, this post was not the place for that information. You certainly do not want your daughters information to be associated with the history of collarme. That is something that will follow her around for life. You affected thousands of people, in a negative way, and the only reason any of them are not saying what I am is because you pulled the “my daughter suffers from a serious medical condition” card. Otherwise, if we were to remove that information, what you have stated would never justify putting so many people out in the cold. If you are going to commit to providing a space for people to connect, specially when it’s so difficult to do so in real life, then don’t change your mind because things get hard and take the site down to exact your own personal flavor of revenge. What about the other people who work for collarme? Do you honestly think that the site will ever be able to attract advertisers ever again? And if you put up another site, do you honestly think, given your inclination to take a site down because of emotional reasons, that anyone would invest, or advertise with you again? You’re crazy if you do, if I were an advertiser, I wouldn’t want to be associated with someone’s petty squabbles or personal drama. I certainly wouldn’t want to be associated with a site like collarme, if I am selling goods and services, that brings babies into a personal fight with a business associate. That’s just sick. The more I think about this entire dramatic situation, the more I am realizing that regardless if or not what you have stated is the absolute truth, you still never should have exposed it on public forum, you should never have brought your baby daughter into this mess, and you certainly should not have murdered the only method you will ever be paid by, that being the website and the money generated with ads. And I think if you consult with a lawyer, you w ill find that doing what you have done, ruining the businesses ability to generate income and operate, will in the end enable the people who actually own collarme to sue you instead. I would think very carefully on this point, because regardless if the website is in your name or not, if it can be proven in court, that the actual business is owned by someone else, the website follows. If the name is trademarked, even if you own the website, it can be taken away from you. It would be just like a company like AT&T owning their name, and someone else buying AT&T.com. AT&T would sue, and win the rights to the website. There are numerous cases of exactly this all over the internet if you just simply google, and read them. Phffft, I am thoroughly and utterly disgusted, Your “partner” has yet to say anything in response, I am not sure if that’s just because they are less inclined to drama, or they are running away from it but whatever the reasons, I prefer that over this. How very sad that you chose to affect so many good people with your personal life in such a horribly negative way." Why do you agree with it?

DeviantlyD -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/24/2014 11:02:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie we don't pay shit. (Thank you....whoever you are). yeah, we don't pay anything.. if we did then these two and who knows how many others would have access to our credit card info, banking info, our real names, addresses, etc.. with all the drama going on here, how comfortable with that would any of us be? You cant trust any business with your info anymore, the Target breach and the Experion fiasco, etc, etc, etc have shown us how vulnerable we are if those people running the business are incompetent.. I think the safety of information with CollarMe that you allude to is a bit of a non sequitur. For the latter bit? I see it more a result of greed than of incompetence. Although I suppose one can easily view greed as a form of incompetence. That's why I use cash and pre-paid gift credit cards. I've been told I'm paranoid by a lot of people and I know those actions don't preclude the possibility of having my personal information stolen, but at least it's one less avenue for it to happen.

punisher440 -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/24/2014 11:12:21 PM)
Dev,the ONLY reason I see for her even mentioning her child was to slant public opinion for what appears to be a highly questionable move on her part. Of course I feel sympathy for any child ,or adult for that matter,that has severe health issues. But throwing that out to try to cover up her actions is a lot like a parent in a messy divorce using their kids as bargaining chips to get what they want.

tj444 -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/24/2014 11:24:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie we don't pay shit. (Thank you....whoever you are). yeah, we don't pay anything.. if we did then these two and who knows how many others would have access to our credit card info, banking info, our real names, addresses, etc.. with all the drama going on here, how comfortable with that would any of us be? You cant trust any business with your info anymore, the Target breach and the Experion fiasco, etc, etc, etc have shown us how vulnerable we are if those people running the business are incompetent.. I think the safety of information with CollarMe that you allude to is a bit of a non sequitur. For the latter bit? I see it more a result of greed than of incompetence. Although I suppose one can easily view greed as a form of incompetence. That's why I use cash and pre-paid gift credit cards. I've been told I'm paranoid by a lot of people and I know those actions don't preclude the possibility of having my personal information stolen, but at least it's one less avenue for it to happen. you can use prepaid cards in a fake name and protect yourself even more that way also.. I don't think that's paranoid at all, given the number of breaches and how reluctant those companies are to let those affected know.. So they give you a "free" year of credit monitoring, big deal.. and it is only cuz the site is free that we don't really have much to worry about.. of course if the new site decided to no longer be free and start charging.. well.. If it is true that the owner doesn't honor his contracts & obligations then how can he/they be trusted? If the reason for non-payment of the contract was money problems and the site "not making enough" then its entirely possible that it goes from free to paying..

punisher440 -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/24/2014 11:35:13 PM)
quote: Why do you agree with it? Well Lookie, I'm not going to break it down line by line but I will cover the basics here. First off we only have her word that any of this is true, for all we really know she has made up every word of it. I've never been a fan of airing dirty laundry in public no matter who's underwear gets ran up the flag pole. The actions of Tiffany has and will in the future effect the ability of the site to generate revenues and if she was truly concerned about revenues, going through legal channels is how most people handle business disputes and not try to sway public opinion via a blog post. With the male owner able to switch over and keep the site up and running tells me he is the owner of the site,no matter who wrestled control of the old domain name away over on what appears to be GoDaddy. And if he is the one actually running and controlling the servers, just who do you think really owns the place? Like I've said in an earlier post, I would like to hear both sides of this story but with the probable legal actions that might be going on behind the scenes I am not holding my breath. But the way this was handled by Tiffany seems to be highly questionable if not outright illegal. If she was going by the book here, I am sure there should have been some form of arbitration and if that failed then a court case. What happened was she tried a take over and tried having a trial in the court of public opinion by playing the sympathy card after trying to shut the site down and then blaming the Eric for making her do it.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/24/2014 11:39:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie we don't pay shit. (Thank you....whoever you are). yeah, we don't pay anything.. if we did then these two and who knows how many others would have access to our credit card info, banking info, our real names, addresses, etc.. with all the drama going on here, how comfortable with that would any of us be? You cant trust any business with your info anymore, the Target breach and the Experion fiasco, etc, etc, etc have shown us how vulnerable we are if those people running the business are incompetent.. I think the safety of information with CollarMe that you allude to is a bit of a non sequitur. For the latter bit? I see it more a result of greed than of incompetence. Although I suppose one can easily view greed as a form of incompetence. That's why I use cash and pre-paid gift credit cards. I've been told I'm paranoid by a lot of people and I know those actions don't preclude the possibility of having my personal information stolen, but at least it's one less avenue for it to happen. you can use prepaid cards in a fake name and protect yourself even more that way also.. I don't think that's paranoid at all, given the number of breaches and how reluctant those companies are to let those affected know.. So they give you a "free" year of credit monitoring, big deal.. and it is only cuz the site is free that we don't really have much to worry about.. of course if the new site decided to no longer be free and start charging.. well.. If it is true that the owner doesn't honor his contracts & obligations then how can he/they be trusted? If the reason for non-payment of the contract was money problems and the site "not making enough" then its entirely possible that it goes from free to paying.. If. Not a fact. If. Based on the last 15 plus years I'd venture a guess that he or she has it worked out fairly well as to not charging anyone a gawdamned dime annnnnnnnnnd........if they (he or she) did....we get (as users) this amazing option: Choice. EVERYONE take a valium!

GoddessManko -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/24/2014 11:46:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: punisher440 Dev,the ONLY reason I see for her even mentioning her child was to slant public opinion for what appears to be a highly questionable move on her part. Of course I feel sympathy for any child ,or adult for that matter,that has severe health issues. But throwing that out to try to cover up her actions is a lot like a parent in a messy divorce using their kids as bargaining chips to get what they want. PRECISELY, revolting! quote: GOOD QUESTION! The answer is YES! Instead of going hand over fist to blackmail the site owner, she could have posted for FREE on gofundme.com where people have received HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS for this specific thing. Medical condition of a child. So it seems that her intentions were more selfish than most people realize who sympathize with her excuse for doing THIS to the online BDSM community. WHY NOT EXHAUST ALL AVAILABLE OPTIONS BEFORE DOING SOMETHING THIS DRASTIC, IRREVERSIBLE AND CONTEMPTUOUS????? Apparently if she can't get her way, we ALL have to deal with the consequences. CLEARLY, she's the victim here... GET A CLUE ALREADY AND REALIZE THE OWNER IS ONLY GUILTY OF BEING TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NICE TO THESE PEOPLE. I OWN DOMAINS. I WOULD SUE HER FOR LIBEL, PERIOD. And it would be easilyyyyyyyyyyy proven in court based on what I have posted. SPARE ME. There are thousandsssssssssssssssssss of bleeding hearts ready to reach out to a sick child but instead she chooses to PERMANENTLY BESMIRCH CM ANDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD THE ONLINE KINK COMMUNITY FROM GOOGLE'S ALGORITHMS. Amazing I have yet to BARF. :) OK, your brain has to do half the job here to figure out what I just stated, good luck. :)

LookieNoNookie -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/24/2014 11:53:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: punisher440 quote: Why do you agree with it? Well Lookie, I'm not going to break it down line by line but I will cover the basics here. First off we only have her word that any of this is true, for all we really know she has made up every word of it. I've never been a fan of airing dirty laundry in public no matter who's underwear gets ran up the flag pole. The actions of Tiffany has and will in the future effect the ability of the site to generate revenues and if she was truly concerned about revenues, going through legal channels is how most people handle business disputes and not try to sway public opinion via a blog post. With the male owner able to switch over and keep the site up and running tells me he is the owner of the site, no matter who wrestled control of the old domain name away over on what appears to be GoDaddy. And if he is the one actually running and controlling the servers, just who do you think really owns the place? Like I've said in an earlier post, I would like to hear both sides of this story but with the probable legal actions that might be going on behind the scenes I am not holding my breath. But the way this was handled by Tiffany seems to be highly questionable if not outright illegal. If she was going by the book here, I am sure there should have been some form of arbitration and if that failed then a court case. What happened was she tried a take over and tried having a trial in the court of public opinion by playing the sympathy card after trying to shut the site down and then blaming the Eric for making her do it. I don't give a shit who's right. It's none of my fucking bidness. It's a bidness. It ain't mine. I didn't write the code and I didn't partner with the genius who did (Guy or Girl). When advertising came up for discussion multiple years back (when I had hair and fit into most of my jeans), I was probably the singularly most prominent vocal advocate for ads, even as so many said "this is MY resource"...... Fuck them....they don't pay for shit. They never did. Whoever put this together paid for a LOT of shit that we all took for granted. My opinion doesn't mean shit. Neither does anyone else's and no offense....neither does yours. Shit being on the absolute bottom of the pile (unless of course, your opinion {no offense meant} is lower than shit.....that would mean your opinion don't mean shit either). We're correspondents. We're riders in the storm. We write the song that..... We get to tag along. Anything else is at best....conjecture, hyperbole and guesswork. Why go there? You don't know shit. I don't know shit. No one else knows shit. It ain't your shit. I know real estate. I can talk about that for centuries. I know more about real estate than most have forgotten. Those are things I know inherently. These two folks shit....I don't know shit about. It's their shit. Not your shit....or mine. Go find hot chicks.

ClassAct2006 -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/25/2014 12:23:38 AM)
Indeed. It is simply knowing where the site is which is needed. Although the most valuable domain name of all time was "sex.com" (much US litigation over that) there is nothing too special about collarme. As long as people cna find the new url they will be okay. Business breakups are always very sad. A good mediator can be worth hiring. Litigation is rarely worth it (although I did win a case pretty well last week so those of us who are good at it don't always find it a waste of time).

tj444 -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/25/2014 12:26:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie If. Not a fact. If. Based on the last 15 plus years I'd venture a guess that he or she has it worked out fairly well as to not charging anyone a gawdamned dime annnnnnnnnnd........if they (he or she) did....we get (as users) this amazing option: Choice. EVERYONE take a valium! "past performance is no guarantee of future results".. considering that there has been a fair amount of drama lately, past problems with the site, Mod turmoil, etc, and now this.. performance is certainly going downhill!.. I am not worried about the new site running out of money or charging, since I wouldn't be a pay piggy anyway.. and as I have said before, this site/forum isn't the only gig in town.. But when I look at a situation, its good to look at all the possibilities, think about what my reaction would be to each, then I am prepared for that event, should it ever occur.. Sometimes I just like to bring up things/possibilities that most people hadn't thought of.. I will say this tho, my view/opinion of this site now is very different.. its lost a lot of credibility, its lost my trust, and the "face/faces" behind the site are now visible with not a very pretty picture, and I see this site as having lost professionalism..

LookieNoNookie -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/25/2014 12:43:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie If. Not a fact. If. Based on the last 15 plus years I'd venture a guess that he or she has it worked out fairly well as to not charging anyone a gawdamned dime annnnnnnnnnd........if they (he or she) did....we get (as users) this amazing option: Choice. EVERYONE take a valium! "past performance is no guarantee of future results".. considering that there has been a fair amount of drama lately, past problems with the site, Mod turmoil, etc, and now this.. performance is certainly going downhill!.. I am not worried about the new site running out of money or charging, since I wouldn't be a pay piggy anyway.. and as I have said before, this site/forum isn't the only gig in town.. But when I look at a situation, its good to look at all the possibilities, think about what my reaction would be to each, then I am prepared for that event, should it ever occur.. Sometimes I just like to bring up things/possibilities that most people hadn't thought of.. I will say this tho, my view/opinion of this site now is very different.. its lost a lot of credibility, its lost my trust, and the "face/faces" behind the site are now visible with not a very pretty picture, and I see this site as having lost professionalism.. And here's the facts: If the possibilities elevate themselves to pay or leave......everyone then has 2 brand new options. If the faces have changed, truly, who gives a fuck? What the fuck do any of us (but a few) know about the facts behind the story? And what therefore, is the final result? This...or something else if the other, more vocal partner opts to re-write the code and show what she brings to the table...and she could end up making a VASTLY better site because of it. If she does....great stuff...if not....so sad....it's business. I can think of a half dozen changes that would make this place far more enjoyable, far less volatile as to conversations and frankly, far more profitable....but no one asked me. And there ya have it. Those are (everyone's) choices.

ResidentSadist -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/25/2014 3:07:11 AM)
~fr Save your hate mail about the lazy, whiny, blackmailer with no accountability. Her baby has nothing to do with collarme and now, neither does she. Perhaps Eric is smarter than you think and he just gave her enough rope to hang herself so he didn't have to do it. He stood by their original intent and she is the one that left and eventually took the domain with her. Good bye Tiffany. Oh, and as far as the Hitler thing goes, you can call me that all you want if you send me one of those spiffy Nazi hats... and an officer's dagger.

chatterbox24 -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/25/2014 4:30:08 AM)
Listen up you heathen men. Be careful which women you scorn. Purr like a kitten one minute then go to full tilt boogeyman scratch your eyes out. I keep envisioning the movie the wizard of oz and see the tin man robotically singing "if I only had a heart" Then a cackle "we will get you my pretty and your little penis too (whoops I meant dog) [sm=rofl.gif][sm=rofl.gif]

chatterbox24 -> RE: CollarMe has gone (5/25/2014 4:50:26 AM)
Want to get super creeped out?[:D] Something really IS wAtching.[sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif] quote: ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD Someone's watching?!!?!? [image]http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.9818063.8071/flat,550x550,075,f.jpg[/image] Officially creeped out Ahem. :P [sm=lol.gif]

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