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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/30/2014 9:35:35 AM   
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Didn't Hilary Clinton say something to the effect: 'As Sec of State I travelled to 133 countries yet all you guys [the media] want to write about is my hair' ....? So much so that she joked about calling her memoirs 'The Scrunchie Chronicles'.

Then when women act assertive and/or won't budge, appropriate to the circumstances, they get called "ballbusters," or worse.


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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/30/2014 10:40:40 AM   
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Cuz you are nagging bitches? I dunno, just a guess maybe. Yeah, it is rather interesting how similar behaviors by opposite sexes are attributed differently like that.

oh dear... apparently men are at risk and now its been scientifically proven that nagging women can apparently literally nag men to death! Good thing I am not one of those women...

http://msnvideo.msn.com/?channelindex=1&from=en-us_msnhp#/video/e752e5f6-6b0f-4d8c-bb60-5cd3ec3bccad

but hey, if ya nag him to death, they can't call it murder.. can they???

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/30/2014 10:51:25 AM   
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It goddamn has been nagging me if you can wiggle your nipple like that in real life, I fuckin tell ya.

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/30/2014 1:47:48 PM   
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It goddamn has been nagging me if you can wiggle your nipple like that in real life, I fuckin tell ya.

lol.. no, I cant wiggle it like that!.. that's why the cute lil tit mouse amuses me so much every time I see it.. But I have other talents, what I can do with my mouth is my specialty..

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/30/2014 1:48:43 PM   
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Ja we've been over this, naonap, and velleity.

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/30/2014 5:49:21 PM   
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Is there no end to your ignorance?


Are you incapable of responding without throwing an insult first? Does it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside to tell someone they are stupid.


No one said you were stupd except you. She and I have both told you on many occasions that you are mindnumbingly ignorant on a plethora of subjects you feel compelled to comment on...but no no one has called you stupid. If you believe that stupid is a synonym for ignorant you would be in need of a dictionary.





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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/30/2014 5:59:06 PM   
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Then when women act assertive and/or won't budge, appropriate to the circumstances, they get called "ballbusters," or worse.


Only by their enemies.

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/30/2014 6:02:43 PM   
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lol.. no, I cant wiggle it like that!..


Thanks a heap....one more fantasy down the shitter


I can do with my mouth is my specialty..

Unless you can yoodle and deep throat at the same time I have already been to that bar-b-q.

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/30/2014 7:13:20 PM   
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lol.. no, I cant wiggle it like that!..


Thanks a heap....one more fantasy down the shitter


I can do with my mouth is my specialty..

Unless you can yoodle and deep throat at the same time I have already been to that bar-b-q.

Yoodle? I suppose you would want me to be dressed like Maria from the Sound of Music too!??? sheesh..

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/31/2014 6:31:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tj444
lol.. no, I cant wiggle it like that!..


Thanks a heap....one more fantasy down the shitter


I can do with my mouth is my specialty..

Unless you can yoodle and deep throat at the same time I have already been to that bar-b-q.

Yoodle? I suppose you would want me to be dressed like Maria from the Sound of Music too!??? sheesh..



Oh my nooooooooo.....all I want on you is a heavy coat of sweat and a smile.

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/31/2014 9:52:08 AM   
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Killing a person solely because of any skin color or any sexual persuasion or religious belief should be a greater crime and that is the point of Hate Crime laws. The equality of justice is not diminished.



And what is it that makes skin color or sexual orientation or religion so special, Vince? And what makes certain skin colors, sexual orientations and religions more special than the others? If we are going to punish the hate in the heart, above and beyond the crime that was committed, shouldn't every gang-related crime get an enhancement?

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/31/2014 1:50:27 PM   
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That's nonsense. Male or female, the response will be partisan based, not gender motivated.

I saw a video where someone tried to make this point, a male and female business speaker delivering similar texts. Trouble is, it was totally contrived. He smiled and held out his open hands when speaking, she frowned and jabbed her finger at the audience. Reverse those gestures, reverse the perception. Duh.


This is only partially true re partisanship as you and Zonie have indicated. Women are expected to act feminine, yet when they do, they don't get taken seriously in a position of authority in the public sector, so I respectfully disagree.

You can disagree, but it's not true what you say. These women certainly have no trouble being taken seriously:

Of the 100 remarkable women on the 2013 list of the World’s Most Powerful Women, you’ll find CEOs and heads of state, philanthropists, billionaires and bureaucrats. But while they all have the power to shape–and reshape–our world, within the ranks of the 100 is an even more elite power list: the 17 women who built their power–and their businesses–from the ground up.

In a year when it’s more important than ever to champion the contributions of female founders, we’re highlighting this women’s club to underscore the continuing success of women entrepreneurs. In the U.S. this year it was revealed that among firms with more than $10 million in annual revenues—the number of women-owned firms has grown by 56.6% since 2002—fully 47% higher than the 38.4% increase among all $10M+ firms regardless of gender.

Oprah Winfrey (No. 13)

Oprah Winfrey is the founder three times over: Founder of Harpo Productions, the Oprah Winfrey Network (OWN) and founder of the Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy for Girls.

Beyonce Knowles-Carter (No. 17)

Beyonce created the fashion label House of Dereon with her mother, Tina Knowles, in 2004. In May of 2012 Beyonce added another credit to her entrepreneurial CV when she launched shop.beyonce.com, a branded apparel and accessory marketplace.

Sofia Vergara (No. 38)

Offstage the Modern Family star is the critical co-founder of a 17-year-old talent management and new media company, LatinWE, which pulled in an estimated $27 million last year. This year saw the release of a social networking site connecting Latino talent with fans. A Pepsi spokeswoman calls the company “the connective tissue between Pepsi and the Hispanic marketplace.”

Cher Wang (No. 46)

Wang and CEO Peter Chou cofounded HTC in 1997, and have remained as its leaders as it developed from a manufacturer for other smartphone companies to a leading Android brand.

Wu Yajun (No. 48)

The former journalist-turned-entrepreneur relinquished her crown as China’s richest woman after her divorce last year, but she still holds a $4.3 billion fortune and leads Longfor, a real estate business with a market cap of $10 billion.

Zhang Xin (No. 50)

Zhang and her husband are the cofounders SOHO China, a dominant Beijing real estate development firm, and are billionaire-entrepreneurs with a combined fortune of $3.6 billion.

Arianna Huffington (No. 56)

Huffington created the Pulitzer prize-winning (and AOL assimilated) Huffington Post which continues its momentum in 2013 expanding to new international editions. In May, Huffington Post Japan marked the media site’s first Asian outpost, following Canada, U.K., France, Spain and Italy.
The World’s Most Powerful Women The 100 top politicians and CEOs, activist billionaires and celebrities, next gen entrepreneurs and philanthropists who matter most. Power Circuits The colleges and companies behind the world’s power women. In Pictures: The 100 Most Powerful Women

Rosalia Mera (No. 66)

Rosalia Mera cofounded Inditex (the parent company of discount fashion retailer Zara) with ex-husband Amancio Ortega. Mera dropped out of school at age 11 to work as a seamstress, then helped her then-husband make dressing gowns and lingerie in their home. The couple has long-since divorced and Mera left Inditex but she retains a 5.1% stake in the $20.5 billion company.

Tory Burch (No. 69)

The billionaire Queen of the $200 ballet flat, the 2008 CFDA winner paid her dues working with designers Vera Wang, Ralph Lauren RL +0.27% and Narciso Rodriguez before launching her own brand out of her Manhattan apartment in 2004. Her self-titled lifestyle lines range from accessories to ready-to-wear, and benefited early from an endorsement by Oprah Winfrey in 2005.

Diane von Furstenberg (No. 74)

The Belgian-born von Furstenberg may have begun designing clothing in 1970 with $30K, but has since risen to the top of the industry, now wielding the power of the president of the trade association of the country’s top 350 designers.

Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw (No. 85)

India’s first biotech entrepreneur Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw founded Biocon in 1978 when she was 25 by partnering with an Irish firm to make industrial enzymes.

Weili Dai (No. 88)

Dai has the distinction of being the only woman co-founder of an American semiconductor company. The Chinese-born, U.S.-educated “geek” cofounded Marvell Technology Group MRVL -1.08% in 1995 with her husband, Sehat Sutardja.

Sara Blakely (No. 90)

At 29 Blakely invested her entire life savings, $5,000, trying to come up with something flattering to wear under her white slacks. Six months later the one-time Disney World ride greeter and door-to-door fax machine salesperson found her new line of shaping underwear named one of Oprah Winfrey’s Favorite Things. Since then Blakely has taken Spanx from a one-product wonder sold out of her Atlanta apartment to a powerhouse with $250 million in annual revenues and net profit margins estimated at 20%.

J.K. Rowling (No. 93)

It was wizardry that transformed J.K. Rowling from a destitute single mother on welfare into a best-selling billionaire. Her adventures of teenage magician Harry Potter and his classmates at Hogwarts became a children’s literary sensation in 1998 with the U.S. publication of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone. It and the six subsequent books have now sold 500 million copies worldwide. A film franchise and theme parks have kept the profits rolling in, making J.K. Rowling far more than just an author by anyone’s measure.

Gisele Bundchen (No. 95)

The world’s most powerful supermodel is also a natural skincare entrepreneur. Her line, Sejaa, has reportedly been in ongoing negotiations with Shiseido for years without reaching terms.

Yang Lan (No. 100)

One of the most powerful women in Chinese media — and often called China’s Oprah — Lan cofounded Sun Media with her second husband, Hong Kong media mogul Bruno Wu. Their multiplatform empire spans TV, newspapers and magazines and the Web, and she is a leading television host who has interviewed Bill and Hillary Clinton and Kobe Bryant.
The World’s Most Powerful Women The 100 top politicians and CEOs, activist billionaires and celebrities, next gen entrepreneurs and philanthropists who matter most.

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/31/2014 2:02:32 PM   
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And what makes certain skin colors, sexual orientations and religions more special than the others?

Which skin colors,religions or sexual orientations are "more" special? If someone shoots you in the head for being a loudmouth dumbass that is murder. If someone shoots you in the head for being a white loudmouth dumbass that is murder + enhancement. Just like the courts enhance assault if you bitch slap a cop. or use a firearm in the commission of a felony.




If we are going to punish the hate in the heart,

We are not punishing the "hate in the heart" as you put it. This is one of their standard lines for those who would pretend that local courts never handed down weak punishment for egregious crimes. For you to pretend such stupidity is clear evidence of your disingenuousness.

above and beyond the crime that was committed, shouldn't every gang-related crime get an enhancement?

What sort of moronic dilusion leads you to pose such drivel?

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/31/2014 4:54:06 PM   
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Which is why I emphasized public as opposed to private.

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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

This is only partially true re partisanship as you and Zonie have indicated. Women are expected to act feminine, yet when they do, they don't get taken seriously in a position of authority in the public sector, so I respectfully disagree.

You can disagree, but it's not true what you say. These women certainly have no trouble being taken seriously:

Of the 100 remarkable women on the 2013 list of the World’s Most Powerful Women, you’ll find CEOs and heads of state, philanthropists, billionaires and bureaucrats. But while they all have the power to shape–and reshape–our world, within the ranks of the 100 is an even more elite power list: the 17 women who built their power–and their businesses–from the ground up.

In a year when it’s more important than ever to champion the contributions of female founders, we’re highlighting this women’s club to underscore the continuing success of women entrepreneurs. In the U.S. this year it was revealed that among firms with more than $10 million in annual revenues—the number of women-owned firms has grown by 56.6% since 2002—fully 47% higher than the 38.4% increase among all $10M+ firms regardless of gender.

Oprah Winfrey (No. 13)

Oprah Winfrey is the founder three times over: Founder of Harpo Productions, the Oprah Winfrey Network (OWN) and founder of the Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy for Girls.

Beyonce Knowles-Carter (No. 17)

Beyonce created the fashion label House of Dereon with her mother, Tina Knowles, in 2004. In May of 2012 Beyonce added another credit to her entrepreneurial CV when she launched shop.beyonce.com, a branded apparel and accessory marketplace.

Sofia Vergara (No. 38)

Offstage the Modern Family star is the critical co-founder of a 17-year-old talent management and new media company, LatinWE, which pulled in an estimated $27 million last year. This year saw the release of a social networking site connecting Latino talent with fans. A Pepsi spokeswoman calls the company “the connective tissue between Pepsi and the Hispanic marketplace.”

Cher Wang (No. 46)

Wang and CEO Peter Chou cofounded HTC in 1997, and have remained as its leaders as it developed from a manufacturer for other smartphone companies to a leading Android brand.

Wu Yajun (No. 48)

The former journalist-turned-entrepreneur relinquished her crown as China’s richest woman after her divorce last year, but she still holds a $4.3 billion fortune and leads Longfor, a real estate business with a market cap of $10 billion.

Zhang Xin (No. 50)

Zhang and her husband are the cofounders SOHO China, a dominant Beijing real estate development firm, and are billionaire-entrepreneurs with a combined fortune of $3.6 billion.

Arianna Huffington (No. 56)

Huffington created the Pulitzer prize-winning (and AOL assimilated) Huffington Post which continues its momentum in 2013 expanding to new international editions. In May, Huffington Post Japan marked the media site’s first Asian outpost, following Canada, U.K., France, Spain and Italy.
The World’s Most Powerful Women The 100 top politicians and CEOs, activist billionaires and celebrities, next gen entrepreneurs and philanthropists who matter most. Power Circuits The colleges and companies behind the world’s power women. In Pictures: The 100 Most Powerful Women

Rosalia Mera (No. 66)

Rosalia Mera cofounded Inditex (the parent company of discount fashion retailer Zara) with ex-husband Amancio Ortega. Mera dropped out of school at age 11 to work as a seamstress, then helped her then-husband make dressing gowns and lingerie in their home. The couple has long-since divorced and Mera left Inditex but she retains a 5.1% stake in the $20.5 billion company.

Tory Burch (No. 69)

The billionaire Queen of the $200 ballet flat, the 2008 CFDA winner paid her dues working with designers Vera Wang, Ralph Lauren RL +0.27% and Narciso Rodriguez before launching her own brand out of her Manhattan apartment in 2004. Her self-titled lifestyle lines range from accessories to ready-to-wear, and benefited early from an endorsement by Oprah Winfrey in 2005.

Diane von Furstenberg (No. 74)

The Belgian-born von Furstenberg may have begun designing clothing in 1970 with $30K, but has since risen to the top of the industry, now wielding the power of the president of the trade association of the country’s top 350 designers.

Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw (No. 85)

India’s first biotech entrepreneur Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw founded Biocon in 1978 when she was 25 by partnering with an Irish firm to make industrial enzymes.

Weili Dai (No. 88)

Dai has the distinction of being the only woman co-founder of an American semiconductor company. The Chinese-born, U.S.-educated “geek” cofounded Marvell Technology Group MRVL -1.08% in 1995 with her husband, Sehat Sutardja.

Sara Blakely (No. 90)

At 29 Blakely invested her entire life savings, $5,000, trying to come up with something flattering to wear under her white slacks. Six months later the one-time Disney World ride greeter and door-to-door fax machine salesperson found her new line of shaping underwear named one of Oprah Winfrey’s Favorite Things. Since then Blakely has taken Spanx from a one-product wonder sold out of her Atlanta apartment to a powerhouse with $250 million in annual revenues and net profit margins estimated at 20%.

J.K. Rowling (No. 93)

It was wizardry that transformed J.K. Rowling from a destitute single mother on welfare into a best-selling billionaire. Her adventures of teenage magician Harry Potter and his classmates at Hogwarts became a children’s literary sensation in 1998 with the U.S. publication of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone. It and the six subsequent books have now sold 500 million copies worldwide. A film franchise and theme parks have kept the profits rolling in, making J.K. Rowling far more than just an author by anyone’s measure.

Gisele Bundchen (No. 95)

The world’s most powerful supermodel is also a natural skincare entrepreneur. Her line, Sejaa, has reportedly been in ongoing negotiations with Shiseido for years without reaching terms.

Yang Lan (No. 100)

One of the most powerful women in Chinese media — and often called China’s Oprah — Lan cofounded Sun Media with her second husband, Hong Kong media mogul Bruno Wu. Their multiplatform empire spans TV, newspapers and magazines and the Web, and she is a leading television host who has interviewed Bill and Hillary Clinton and Kobe Bryant.
The World’s Most Powerful Women The 100 top politicians and CEOs, activist billionaires and celebrities, next gen entrepreneurs and philanthropists who matter most.

Yet how much flack did Julia Roberts get in the media for showing hairy pits while otherwise dressed to the nines? Or for a woman to commit a fashion faux pas, have a hair out of place, leave the house without her make-up on? Would a man be ridiculed for this? No, I think not, for the most part unless somebody has an axe to grind.

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/31/2014 5:06:47 PM   
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Then when women act assertive and/or won't budge, appropriate to the circumstances, they get called "ballbusters," or worse.

Only by their enemies.

Enemies will resort to name-calling tactics no matter what you do, my friend.

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/31/2014 6:44:25 PM   
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You and Muse seem to be enjoying your sexism tangent, FieryOpal, so I'll just say this, and leave the two of you to it.

Harry Reid shrieks too. It's a description of the noise, not the gender.

Have fun!

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/31/2014 8:04:26 PM   
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You and Muse seem to be enjoying your sexism tangent, FieryOpal, so I'll just say this, and leave the two of you to it.

Harry Reid shrieks too. It's a description of the noise, not the gender.

Have fun!

Puh-leez...you just made me remember that God-awful Richard Simmons!
I need to go scrub my brain now.

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/31/2014 8:05:04 PM   
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Which is why I emphasized public as opposed to private.



You're still full of shit.

Conservatives LOVE Palin when she's spewing bat-shit crazy, for example. And Mitt is a moron in any gender. I don't think Ryan does anything BUT shriek.

It's partisanship.

You, on the other, think you're still living in the 70s, and forgot to update your talking points.

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/31/2014 8:20:57 PM   
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You're still full of shit.

Conservatives LOVE Palin when she's spewing bat-shit crazy, for example. And Mitt is a moron in any gender. I don't think Ryan does anything BUT shriek.

It's partisanship.

You, on the other, think you're still living in the 70s, and forgot to update your talking points.

No need to get nasty or to misread "Feisty Dialog" for "Nasty Dialog."

Speaking of Palin, how many times were her matching suit-skirt outfits commented upon by the media? Or her hairdos?
John Edwards' hair only came up because he charged, what $400? to his campaign for *hairstyling* <nudge, nudge> skills.

Come on, the '70s weren't so bad, post-Vietnam. That decade came before the pro-materialism and yuppiedom of the '80s, when there was still a glass ceiling in corporate America.

Oh, that's right. This is the forum where everybody accuses everybody else of making shit up. Forgot where I was for a moment.

[Edited for apostrophe]

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RE: Curiouser and Curiouser - 5/31/2014 8:22:46 PM   
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I rest my case.

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