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HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 6:14:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: HunterCA



I will disagree in any manner you choose.


I choose a manner that makes sense, isn't hypocritical, and doesn't include a thinly veiled threat of physical violence.

You don't " play nice "so don't expect other posters to.


So be it, make it so then.




DomKen -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 6:18:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

You even changed my post which is expressly against the rules of the forum.

You're making shit up again. I didn't "change" anything. I just quoted what was relevant. Deal with it.

When quoting other members, please trim the quotes so that they are not excessive...


Actually liar, you deleted the part of my post that proved you had quote mined. That was grossly dishonest and a direct violation of the forums rules.




GotSteel -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 6:38:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BitYakin
DK, DUDE, were is this LIE you keep going on an on about, NO WHERE in ANY OF THOSE POSTS does he say THIS IS WHAT I BELEIVE, just here is a study make what you will of it...

GEEZZZZ DUDE GROW UP!


Getting him to offer anything of substance or even admit that he has a position is like pulling teeth. The issue is that he disrupts any thread that doesn't present his pet woo in a positive light by harassing other posters until the thread gets locked....which I predict will be accomplished any minute now.




Kirata -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 7:40:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

You even changed my post which is expressly against the rules of the forum.

You're making shit up again. I didn't "change" anything. I just quoted what was relevant. Deal with it.

When quoting other members, please trim the quotes so that they are not excessive...

Actually liar, you deleted the part of my post that proved you had quote mined. That was grossly dishonest and a direct violation of the forums rules.

You're making shit up again, and the claims in your post were bullshit as usual. Steinhardt was pointing out that the different models find their support only by ignoring inconvenient data. To wit:

It's not easy to put the BICEP2 results together with the earlier Planck and WMAP results and make everything fit -- they don't line up all that well. If you try, you end up with rather strange and contorted models. These ugly models don't give you a lot of confidence in inflation at all...

And you misrepresented his view of inflation as currently conceived by claiming that he isn't dismissing it. I don't know how dismissive someone has to be for it to penetrate your brain, but this has to be close:

My own view is a little bit different still. One of the problems with inflation is that it really doesn't make predictions; it is so flexible that it is not falsifiable. You're always going to be able to change parameters and add degrees of freedom such that it can fit any combination of data no matter what is observed. This is a fundamental problem. A theory that is not falsifiable is not scientifically meaningful.

So bend over, bozo, and stop accusing people of cheating and lying every time you can't sell them on your made up shit.

K.





HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 7:45:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

You even changed my post which is expressly against the rules of the forum.

You're making shit up again. I didn't "change" anything. I just quoted what was relevant. Deal with it.

When quoting other members, please trim the quotes so that they are not excessive...

Actually liar, you deleted the part of my post that proved you had quote mined. That was grossly dishonest and a direct violation of the forums rules.

You're making shit up again, and the claims in your post were bullshit as usual. Steinhardt was pointing out that the different models find their support only by ignoring inconvenient data. To wit:

It's not easy to put the BICEP2 results together with the earlier Planck and WMAP results and make everything fit -- they don't line up all that well. If you try, you end up with rather strange and contorted models. These ugly models don't give you a lot of confidence in inflation at all...

And you misrepresented his view of inflation as currently conceived by claiming that he isn't dismissing it. I don't know how dismissive someone has to be for it to penetrate your brain, but this has to be close:

My own view is a little bit different still. One of the problems with inflation is that it really doesn't make predictions; it is so flexible that it is not falsifiable. You're always going to be able to change parameters and add degrees of freedom such that it can fit any combination of data no matter what is observed. This is a fundamental problem. A theory that is not falsifiable is not scientifically meaningful.

So bend over, bozo, and stop accusing people of cheating and lying every time you can't sell them on your made up shit.

K.




He does do that. I think he thinks nobody noticed.




Kirata -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 7:50:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

DK, DUDE, were is this LIE you keep going on an on about, NO WHERE in ANY OF THOSE POSTS does he say THIS IS WHAT I BELEIVE, just here is a study make what you will of it...

GEEZZZZ DUDE GROW UP!

Getting him to offer anything of substance or even admit that he has a position is like pulling teeth. The issue is that he disrupts any thread that doesn't present his pet woo in a positive light by harassing other posters until the thread gets locked....which I predict will be accomplished any minute now.

This from a weenie who keeps me on Hide so he can play in the kitchen without getting burnt. [:D]

K.





HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 7:50:44 PM)

He likes to think people think he's a big boy.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 7:52:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

He likes to think people think he's a big boy.


You got here late....years ago we learned that the man is keeping Dom (cough) Ken down.

His lot in life is due to others ruining his opportunity.




Moderator3 -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 7:53:11 PM)

Well, this is going well. [:D]




Kirata -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 8:36:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Moderator3

Well, this is going well. [:D]

LOL... Yes indeedy. Feisty!

[sm=applause.gif]

K.




DomKen -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 8:46:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

You even changed my post which is expressly against the rules of the forum.

You're making shit up again. I didn't "change" anything. I just quoted what was relevant. Deal with it.

When quoting other members, please trim the quotes so that they are not excessive...

Actually liar, you deleted the part of my post that proved you had quote mined. That was grossly dishonest and a direct violation of the forums rules.

You're making shit up again, and the claims in your post were bullshit as usual. Steinhardt was pointing out that the different models find their support only by ignoring inconvenient data. To wit:

It's not easy to put the BICEP2 results together with the earlier Planck and WMAP results and make everything fit -- they don't line up all that well. If you try, you end up with rather strange and contorted models. These ugly models don't give you a lot of confidence in inflation at all...

And you misrepresented his view of inflation as currently conceived by claiming that he isn't dismissing it. I don't know how dismissive someone has to be for it to penetrate your brain, but this has to be close:

My own view is a little bit different still. One of the problems with inflation is that it really doesn't make predictions; it is so flexible that it is not falsifiable. You're always going to be able to change parameters and add degrees of freedom such that it can fit any combination of data no matter what is observed. This is a fundamental problem. A theory that is not falsifiable is not scientifically meaningful.

So bend over, bozo, and stop accusing people of cheating and lying every time you can't sell them on your made up shit.

K.



Look you quote mined the guy to make it look like the guy agreed with you. You got caught. All the howling in the world won't change that. You can try and take the guy out of context all you want but that won't change the facts.

Next time don't try and jam a bunch of unrelated stuff together as if it was all one quote.




DomKen -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 8:47:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

DK, DUDE, were is this LIE you keep going on an on about, NO WHERE in ANY OF THOSE POSTS does he say THIS IS WHAT I BELEIVE, just here is a study make what you will of it...

GEEZZZZ DUDE GROW UP!

Getting him to offer anything of substance or even admit that he has a position is like pulling teeth. The issue is that he disrupts any thread that doesn't present his pet woo in a positive light by harassing other posters until the thread gets locked....which I predict will be accomplished any minute now.

This from a weenie who keeps me on Hide so he can play in the kitchen without getting burnt. [:D]

Well he does describe you perfectly. I just hate assholes like you to much to put you on hide.




DomKen -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 8:48:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

He likes to think people think he's a big boy.


You got here late....years ago we learned that the man is keeping Dom (cough) Ken down.

His lot in life is due to others ruining his opportunity.

Does it make you feel good to make shit up about other people?




Kirata -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 8:52:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Look you quote mined the guy to make it look like the guy agreed with you. You got caught.
[image]local://upfiles/235229/E2586CC1B38B4AB986C494419CA0CABA.jpg[/image]
Image source: http://www.engrish.com

K.






Kirata -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 9:01:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Does it make you feel good to make shit up about other people?

Irony at its finest.

K.




HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 9:12:05 PM)

We have established that and when ken is cornered he does take two days to thunk up a good zinger. Let's give him prudence at least.




DomKen -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 9:16:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

We have established that and when ken is cornered he does take two days to thunk up a good zinger. Let's give him prudence at least.

When you sober up could you translate that into English?




HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 9:20:34 PM)

It actually looks good enough for a halfwit now. So, once again you establish your place.

Oh ken, I meant to tell you. You're showing up at this hour a lot. People are going to notice and avoid this time. You don't want to do that to others here. So maybe just drop of except for really oddball times.




DomKen -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 10:11:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

It actually looks good enough for a halfwit now. So, once again you establish your place.

Oh ken, I meant to tell you. You're showing up at this hour a lot. People are going to notice and avoid this time. You don't want to do that to others here. So maybe just drop of except for really oddball times.

Please do avoid this forum at any time. Due to my condition I don't sleep well and am prone to read the forum and post at all sorts of odd times. If that scares you should find some other forum.




thompsonx -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/3/2014 10:58:30 PM)


ORIGINAL: HunterCA
You see I grew up learning to read with Dick and Jane. That was back before the unions and the government totally wrecked the school system and put the US education system way lagging behind in the world.

You went to school in the 60's-70's...pretty sure the school teachers had unions then.





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