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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 2:32:58 PM   
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It is just; when you as a woman look at the world today can you truly say that men have done a wonderful job in their so-called leadership roles?



It's all relative, Lashra, so, as women aren't quite at the races, it's hard to tell what's what. If it was my call, you could have it all: the world, the power, the glory, the shoes.....providing you keep out of my home and garden (unless invited), then feel free to take what you need.

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

Do you ever feel that all the men should be gathered up and put into cages and only let out for breeding purposes and drone work?



In a word: no.......but I suppose I'm biased and have a vested interest in living my life outside of a cage.

Lashra, this is exactly why we run the show: one television commercial on a pre-menstrual day is enough to send you right over the edge - to the point where you want to wring our necks and cage us. If the essence of human experience is politics, and the essence of politics is the quest for harmony, then I'm struggling to see how your solution to the world's ills is going to advance human experience.

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 2:34:05 PM   
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And if you think any of the voices offering even a modicum of support or sympathy for the OP's motion are anything less than swine, count yourself among 'em.


Swine fulfill their natural potential...
...the OP should be beneath a woman.

Seeing as it wasn't, I must insist that your statement be amended from "anything less" to "anything more" or even "not less."

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 2:36:22 PM   
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I think I'm in love, NorthernGent.

Well said; and bear in mind that the OP was having a bad day ...
... there were many other voices being raised in sympathy in this thread.

Edited to add:
"It's always a man's fault." (Two Rivers saying; Wheel of Time)
The meaning depending on the gender of whoever says it, of course.

If men fucked up the world, why did women stand by and let them do so?

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< Message edited by Aswad -- 1/30/2008 2:38:50 PM >


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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 2:37:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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And if you think any of the voices offering even a modicum of support or sympathy for the OP's motion are anything less than swine, count yourself among 'em.


Swine fulfill their natural potential...
...the OP should be beneath a woman.

Seeing as it wasn't, I must insist that your statement be amended from "anything less" to "anything more" or even "not less."

Health,
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You are, of course, right.  A cognitive failure of my own there, but I'll put it down to waning attention rather than diluted testosterone.

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 2:42:37 PM   
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handsOnknees:  100% social skills, compassion, common sense, and "knowledge of the real world and its issues" failure. 




I don't cast any of those pearls before swine.  And if you think any of the voices offering even a modicum of support or sympathy for the OP's motion are anything less than swine, count yourself among 'em.



You misogynist bastard! How dare you get offended by someone who says you should be put in a cage simply because you were born with a cock?

OK, sarcasm mode off: I really wonder what the OP and the other man-bashing women in this thread have actually done to end the oppression of women in places like the Middle East, other than make threads on collarme about how much men suck

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 2:44:34 PM   
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I really wonder what the OP and the other man-bashing women in this thread have actually done to end the oppression of women in places like the Middle East, other than make threads on collarme about how much men suck


Made that job harder, by showing the insanity that will be permitted by letting go of that oppression?
(Not that I'm advocating oppression, of either gender, just saying it'll probably seem scary to the patriarchies.)

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 2:48:57 PM   
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Made that job harder, by showing the insanity that will be permitted by letting go of that oppression?



You just won the thread.

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 2:53:47 PM   
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yes we need men..else the human race will  be gone this century :P


That is not a valid argument. It is trivial to use IXI to fertilize the ovum without the presence of men, although you'd want to occasionally let a male foetus be carried to term, in order to refresh the supply. Such ideas have been a mainstay of a certain brand of feminist utopian science fiction for a long time. Men, on the other hand, will need regular women until in-vitro gestation has been perfected and genetic selection allows them to be "custom ordered."

Personally, I have a strong preference for keeping both genders around, just as I prefer to avoid sexism- both brands of it.

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there for it is valid...they need males to be fetilized..even if it is just a sperm source


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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 2:54:21 PM   
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What a crappy prize. I'm throwing in a couple of book subscriptions to go with it, Aswad.

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 2:59:24 PM   
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there for it is valid...they need males to be fetilized..even if it is just a sperm source


Not really... they need to harvest a stockpile of sperm to get started, then research how to clone it without degenerating the telomeres... the bit about raising men to sperm-producing age (say one man per 100 million women fertilized), harvesting and then killing them off is just a backup plan in case the research takes too long, which seems unlikely.

Long term, both genders are unneccessary.

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 3:00:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

What a crappy prize. I'm throwing in a couple of book subscriptions to go with it, Aswad.


Did I get a prize? Cool; what'd I do?

As for book subscriptions, can we find some pervy substitute, like a Sicflics subscription?

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 3:09:53 PM   
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 All men are pigs........to bad we own everything..:)

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 3:11:31 PM   
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Thanks guys!

Whats really, really funny is that all the indignant male responses since someone (male) dug up this thread have only gone to prove what I said in jest.

Now, can you say "inferiority complex"?

E

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 3:22:51 PM   
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Now, can you say "inferiority complex"?


I believe the OP said that much better than I ever could.

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P.S.: I suspect there would be a lot of indignant responses from women if a complementary thread appeared.


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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 3:28:04 PM   
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My definition of edge play.

A woman, pmsing-with her finger on the nuclear trigger.

Have a nice day.

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 3:28:49 PM   
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 All men are pigs........to bad we own everything..:)  
  That was just offensive and arrogant  enough to really get me hot!!!  (heads to kitchen for ice tray...)

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 3:32:43 PM   
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My definition of edge play. A woman, pmsing-with her finger on the nuclear trigger.


No need to get personal; Candy can't help it.

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 3:34:01 PM   
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What a crappy prize. I'm throwing in a couple of book subscriptions to go with it, Aswad.


Did I get a prize? Cool; what'd I do?

As for book subscriptions, can we find some pervy substitute, like a Sicflics subscription?

Health,
al-Aswad.



Handsonknees said you won the thread. I think that's the crappiest prize on record and I think you deserve more. I COULD make it a filthy porn site subscription that denegrates women and gets deviates like you off, I suppose. You men are such pigs.

ps. send me the password. Fairs fair.

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 3:37:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hands0n0knees
I don't cast any of those pearls before swine.  And if you think any of the voices offering even a modicum of support or sympathy for the OP's motion are anything less than swine, count yourself among 'em.


Ah, so now we are swine, and unworthy of your tolerance, compassion or understanding?  Marvelous.  You've done wonders to invalidate any doubts we might have about the humanity of the opposite gender.  Well done, mate.

Just an observation:  for a person who so often tries SO desperately to get attention on these forums as an "intelligent and well-educated" type, you reveal an inordinate wealth of ignorance of what life is like for the majority of women on planet Earth.

You perhaps need to read something other than a thesaurus once in a while, kiddo.  And perhaps you need to get the hell away from the Wank Machine and experience something of the real world before you speak.  Perhaps when you have, your incredibly unattractive and unearned white male persecution complex will clear up, like a case of repulsive teenage acne, and your posts will read a bit more like something written by a knowledgable, humane adult.

Funny.  I see a lot of hard-done-by and miffed whining from terribly wounded menfolk here, who seem shocked and appalled that *gasp*  hey, once in a while women get tired of their gender being raped, murdered, beaten, persecuted, belittled and impoverished...and feel like speaking a few harmless words of complaint.

I find it ironic that one thread in the Mistress forum, which had to be disinterred after two years lying fallow, is being called a "constant pattern of male bashing" on a forum where there is a new "there's no such thing as a domme" or "women are such whores" thread every other fucking day.  Much less that one little thread on a board where there is an entire sub-forum devoted to an insanely misogynistic Male Supremacy fantasy known as Gor (because the real world just isn't sickeningly violent and patriarchal enough, for some people!).

Whatever, please don't let the real suffering that women endure in the real world intrude on your fantasy world where you're the victims.  We "swine" will just go back to being nearly invisible in religion, under-represented in all positions of political power and authority, and over-represented among the victims of violence and poverty all around the world.  And we're terribly sorry that one of us had a moment of weakness, on one bad day, and dared to do a silly thing like equate patriarchy with the people who perpetuate it and benefit most from it.

We're also overcome with remorse that any other woman here would dare to express sympathy with that pain, that frustration and anger.  We will be sure to more politely swallow any sense of rage and helplessness we feel when we realize that in the time it took me to type this post, several female human beings, some as young as two or as old as 82, have just been brutally raped somewhere on this planet by a thing with a cock and a sense of entitlement only a SHADE less revolting than yours.

We all know that you men are delicate flowers, and for ANY woman to have a moment of weakness or doubt in two years really is just TOO much for a delicate creature like a man to tolerate.  And of course, we all know that the two words that NO MALE ORGANISM can ever speak with any sincerity are "I'm sorry."

Even if those words are only part of the sentence "I'm sorry that things are bad now, and have been worse in the past, but I personally hope I can make them better in the future."

*rolls her eyes*  Swine indeed. 

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RE: Do we really need men? - 1/30/2008 3:40:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

Handsonknees said you won the thread.


Ah, that.

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I think that's the crappiest prize on record and I think you deserve more.


Beats being stuck in a cage for sticking up for women's rights, I suppose.

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I COULD make it a filthy porn site subscription that denegrates women and gets deviates like you off, I suppose.


That would be lovely.

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You men are such pigs.


Guilty as charged.

And, sure, you can have the account back when I've set my PC to download it all.

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