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You mean, of course, the woman who "immediately pounced" 4 full minutes after the question was asked and someone else had responded. You mean, of course, the woman who later said that she was glad the Muslim woman asked her question, thanked her for her participation and recieved thunderous applause for her empassioned response.

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You mean the panel whe were so upset that they applauded as well.

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Oh, and of course we cannot forget the alleged victim, who also recieved applause when she jokingly conceded that she was the defacto leader of the Muslim peace movement by virtue of the fact that she was the only Muslim present...

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Incidentally, I did some checking today, and it turns out that this particular Muslim woman, Saba Ahmed, happens to be a self described family friend of a horses ass named Mohamed Mohamud. Mohamed Mohamud tried to blow up a car bomb in Portland Oregon in 2010. According to the FBI, Mohamud �was looking for a �huge mass that will be attacked in their own element with their families celebrating the holidays.�� The author of the article is right to ask why anyone should believe that a self-described "peaceful Muslim" like Saba Ahmed is a close family friend of a convicted jihadist.

Now, I know... it's all hearsay that she knows this man, now isn't it. After all, that article doesn't actually prove any connection between Saba Ahmed and Mohamed Mohamud. So, I did a little more digging. Here's a picture of her leaving the courthouse during his trial. According to this article, she made public statements that she had intimate knowledge of the bombing attempt that had not yet been made public, which means she was pretty fucking close to Mohamud. She also had herself a hissy fit, claiming that the government was responsible for a mosque that was destroyed by arson after Mohamuds arrest.

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Reagan and Bush have nothing to do with the topic, although I think its pretty funny that you've gone to so much trouble trying to make them relevant to this.

You obviously don't understand the difference between a "Muslim" and an "Islamic extremist", so it's small wonder you don't grasp the dumbfuckery of continuing to paint this woman as a victim of those mean old Heritage panelists. She was not what she presented herself as. If your little Collarchat debate point about Bush and the evil Republicans is important enough to you to defend a person who presents herself as a peacenik while she pals around with terrorists, then by all means... help Ken polish his turd.

-SD-

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You're entitled to your own opinion DK. I don't happen to share it. But then I tend not to agree with just about any of the whiney-ass shit you post, so that shouldn't be much of a shock.

However, I think it's worth noting that this woman appears to be a bit of a shill for Islam. She appeared as a guest on Hannity, and that interview was pretty awful for her too. Since you liberals like to get your political insights from comedians and comic strips, you may have missed it. The take-away from it is simply that she refuses to come out and simply say that she is against extremist Islam and jihad, while continuing to push this nonsense about how peaceful Islam is.

To put it plainly for you and the rest of the ridiculous Muslim apologists, that means she wants you to believe Islam is peaceful, indeed SHE is the very paragon of a peaceful Muslim, but she wouldn't actually speak out against Islamist extremists if they killed you for being gay or bisexual. She wouldn't speak out against Islamic extremists who killed you because you might be Jewish, or Christian, or the wrong sect of Muslim. She wouldn't condemn a jihadist who killed you because you said something they didn't like about their pedophile prophet. She wouldn't condemn an Islamist who might bomb a public sporting event like the Boston Marathon or shoot up a military installation.

Incidentally, I did some checking today, and it turns out that this particular Muslim woman, Saba Ahmed, happens to be a self described family friend of a horses ass named Mohamed Mohamud. Mohamed Mohamud tried to blow up a car bomb in Portland Oregon in 2010. According to the FBI, Mohamud �was looking for a �huge mass that will be attacked in their own element with their families celebrating the holidays.�� The author of the article is right to ask why anyone should believe that a self-described "peaceful Muslim" like Saba Ahmed is a close family friend of a convicted jihadist.

Now, I know... it's all hearsay that she knows this man, now isn't it. After all, that article doesn't actually prove any connection between Saba Ahmed and Mohamed Mohamud. So, I did a little more digging. Here's a picture of her leaving the courthouse during his trial. According to this article, she made public statements that she had intimate knowledge of the bombing attempt that had not yet been made public, which means she was pretty fucking close to Mohamud. She also had herself a hissy fit, claiming that the government was responsible for a mosque that was destroyed by arson after Mohamuds arrest.

You are, yet again, polishing a turd.

-SD-

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Reagan and Bush have nothing to do with the topic, although I think its pretty funny that you've gone to so much trouble trying to make them relevant to this.

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You obviously don't understand the difference between a "Muslim" and an "Islamic extremist"

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Reagan and Bush have nothing to do with the topic, although I think its pretty funny that you've gone to so much trouble trying to make them relevant to this.

You obviously don't understand the difference between a "Muslim" and an "Islamic extremist", so it's small wonder you don't grasp the dumbfuckery of continuing to paint this woman as a victim of those mean old Heritage panelists. She was not what she presented herself as. If your little Collarchat debate point about Bush and the evil Republicans is important enough to you to defend a person who presents herself as a peacenik while she pals around with terrorists, then by all means... help Ken polish his turd.

-SD-

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Reagan and Bush have nothing to do with the topic, although I think its pretty funny that you've gone to so much trouble trying to make them relevant to this.

You obviously don't understand the difference between a "Muslim" and an "Islamic extremist", so it's small wonder you don't grasp the dumbfuckery of continuing to paint this woman as a victim of those mean old Heritage panelists. She was not what she presented herself as. If your little Collarchat debate point about Bush and the evil Republicans is important enough to you to defend a person who presents herself as a peacenik while she pals around with terrorists, then by all means... help Ken polish his turd.

-SD-

Fucking laughable stuff. A law student goes to court as a friend of the family, and YOU just know she is am Islamic extremist. What were you saying about not understanding dumbfuckery ?

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Reagan and Bush have nothing to do with the topic, although I think its pretty funny that you've gone to so much trouble trying to make them relevant to this.

You obviously don't understand the difference between a "Muslim" and an "Islamic extremist", so it's small wonder you don't grasp the dumbfuckery of continuing to paint this woman as a victim of those mean old Heritage panelists. She was not what she presented herself as. If your little Collarchat debate point about Bush and the evil Republicans is important enough to you to defend a person who presents herself as a peacenik while she pals around with terrorists, then by all means... help Ken polish his turd.

-SD-

Fucking laughable stuff. A law student goes to court as a friend of the family, and YOU just know she is am Islamic extremist. What were you saying about not understanding dumbfuckery ?

First of all, I never said she was an extremist. I said she was a shill, and questioned why she would have good friends who like to blow people up if she was the peaceful person she portrayed herself to be.

Ms. Ahmed claimed to have knowledge of the crime that had not been publicized. She was not Mohamud's lawyer. She was there as a friend. That means she came by her knowledge either first hand, or by speaking with Mohamud after his arrest. However she came by her knowledge though, she made excuses for his terror plot. She, like you, believes that making excuses for people who want to commit acts of terror is a valid ideology. Are you really so ignorant that you don't understand why someone would question the sincerity and/or motives of someone claiming to be a peaceful person who pals around with people who want to commit mass murder?

That's a rhetorical question, by the way. I already know you're that ignorant from previous discussions.

-SD-

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Ignorance is your strong point dave, on so many levels.

As for the bullshit about me making excuses for terrorists, can you try and find a post where I have done so ?

That also a rhetorical question because yet again you are talking bollocks. I already know that from previous discussions.

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Ignorance is your strong point dave, on so many levels.

As for the bullshit about me making excuses for terrorists, can you try and find a post where I have done so ?

That also a rhetorical question because yet again you are talking bollocks. I already know that from previous discussions.

Like, say.... post #28 of this thread? According to your own post it should be perfectly fine to have close personal friends who want to kill lots of people in a massive explosion. Why, anyone with that sort of psychotic friend should stand by them through thick and thin, according to you and be supportive their little bomber buddy.

You are making excuses to support terrorism, dumbass.

-SD-

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Ignorance is your strong point dave, on so many levels.

As for the bullshit about me making excuses for terrorists, can you try and find a post where I have done so ?

That also a rhetorical question because yet again you are talking bollocks. I already know that from previous discussions.

Like, say.... post #28 of this thread? According to your own post it should be perfectly fine to have close personal friends who want to kill lots of people in a massive explosion. Why, anyone with that sort of psychotic friend should stand by them through thick and thin, according to you and be supportive their little bomber buddy.

You are making excuses to support terrorism, dumbass.

-SD-

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Apparently not everyone understands what's being written though... Fuck, didn't you start this idiotic thread and you don't know what the hell is being said in it?

In post #28, politesub53 was quite clear in expressing his belief that just because someone has a bomb making jihadist friend and tries to present themselves as a peaceful, moderate kind of person, that it is "laughable" to question their motives and sincerity. That IS the word he used. "Laughable".

If it's "laughable", then obviously he thinks that no one would (or should) believe that it's at all unusual for people claiming to be peaceful and concientious to have homicidal fucks as close family friends. If it's "laughable", then it must be normal for people to be so supportive of their friends who want to inflict maximum carnage when they try to blow up cars. If it's "laughable", then it must be perfectly acceptable for someone to claim they are all about peace and coexistence even though they support car bombings.

Clearly politesub53 believes that when given a choice between standing by a family friend who gets busted trying to blow people up or condemning their actions; friendship trumps terror. Anything else is "laughable".

-SD-

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Really, I'm on the right but have lived with a female/female couple for over 10 years now.

One might want to make sure their closet is clean before trying to spread a load of shit with sweeping statements... Oh yeah, I guess all of us righties who disagree with Obama are racist bigots too.

If the cap fits Rob, if the cap fits.

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Really, I'm on the right but have lived with a female/female couple for over 10 years now.

One might want to make sure their closet is clean before trying to spread a load of shit with sweeping statements... Oh yeah, I guess all of us righties who disagree with Obama are racist bigots too.

If the cap fits Rob, if the cap fits.

Actually, the cap doesn't fit. I'm on the right too...I don't like I's policies either and it isn't because he's BLACK. Got gay and lesbian family members and friends...Don't hate them either not spend time preaching to them.