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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

If you're going to take the route of "you may not invest in anything that may contradict your religious beliefs", there will be VERY few investments, if any, left.

Oh, there will be some. And what's wrong with that? Nobody realistically tries to invest in everything.

For example, I know that conventional wisdom where I'm at (high middle class businessman) says the quickest and most reliable new income stream is real estate. But, other than my house or personal camps, it's just an area that makes me nervous--admittedly simply my own ignorance of that area--and doesn't really interest me . . . so I pass and invest in other areas.

Point is, I get to choose. And investments don't have to be in large enterprises either.

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ORIGINAL: Gauge
*I am invested in abortion products and products directly related to abortion. My objection to being forced to pay for abortion products is hypocritical because I don't object to making money from abortion.

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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

If you're going to take the route of "you may not invest in anything that may contradict your religious beliefs", there will be VERY few investments, if any, left.

Oh, there will be some. And what's wrong with that? Nobody realistically tries to invest in everything.

For example, I know that conventional wisdom where I'm at (high middle class businessman) says the quickest and most reliable new income stream is real estate. But, other than my house or personal camps, it's just an area that makes me nervous--admittedly simply my own ignorance of that area--and doesn't really interest me . . . so I pass and invest in other areas.

Point is, I get to choose. And investments don't have to be in large enterprises either.

What's wrong with that is, I feel that pressuring people to drop their investments, for whatever concocted "hypocrisy" reason, undermines one of the freedoms that our nation was founded upon - the lawful application of capital in investments or ventures that the person (or company) chooses.

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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

OK, Gauge, let me ask you just one more question.

In your opinion, should an individual or a business, who may claim an objection to something on religious grounds, be "allowed" to invest, directly or through a derivative / fund, in any of the following companies, without being called a hypocrite?

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

If you're going to take the route of "you may not invest in anything that may contradict your religious beliefs", there will be VERY few investments, if any, left.

Oh, there will be some. And what's wrong with that? Nobody realistically tries to invest in everything.

For example, I know that conventional wisdom where I'm at (high middle class businessman) says the quickest and most reliable new income stream is real estate. But, other than my house or personal camps, it's just an area that makes me nervous--admittedly simply my own ignorance of that area--and doesn't really interest me . . . so I pass and invest in other areas.

Point is, I get to choose. And investments don't have to be in large enterprises either.

What's wrong with that is, I feel that pressuring people to drop their investments, for whatever concocted "hypocrisy" reason, undermines one of the freedoms that our nation was founded upon - the lawful application of capital in investments or ventures that the person (or company) chooses.

What's wrong with your reply is nowhere does the post say anything about pressuring anyone to do anything, let alone "for whatever concocted 'hypocrisy' reason," and is therefore just a gratuitous rant, when the post displays nothing but "the lawful application of capital in investments or ventures that the person (or company) chooses."

If you're gonna get all self-righteous, wait until someone actually does what you're anxious to get all righteous about.

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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

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ORIGINAL: Gauge
*I am invested in abortion products and products directly related to abortion. My objection to being forced to pay for abortion products is hypocritical because I don't object to making money from abortion.

>> "*I am invested in a conglomerate that makes 1000's of various products, not only abortifacients."

There, fixed that for ya.

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ORIGINAL: subrosaDom

It depends who's doing the pressuring. Individuals and organizations have every right to pressure you through legal means (no violent threats or suggestions of harm or slander/libel). And you have a similar right to pressure them back. The government on the other hand shouldn't have any say in it whatsoever or its taking sides and using the inherent threat of force against you.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

If you're going to take the route of "you may not invest in anything that may contradict your religious beliefs", there will be VERY few investments, if any, left.

Oh, there will be some. And what's wrong with that? Nobody realistically tries to invest in everything.

For example, I know that conventional wisdom where I'm at (high middle class businessman) says the quickest and most reliable new income stream is real estate. But, other than my house or personal camps, it's just an area that makes me nervous--admittedly simply my own ignorance of that area--and doesn't really interest me . . . so I pass and invest in other areas.

Point is, I get to choose. And investments don't have to be in large enterprises either.

What's wrong with that is, I feel that pressuring people to drop their investments, for whatever concocted "hypocrisy" reason, undermines one of the freedoms that our nation was founded upon - the lawful application of capital in investments or ventures that the person (or company) chooses.

What's wrong with your reply is nowhere does the post say anything about pressuring anyone to do anything, let alone "for whatever concocted 'hypocrisy' reason," and is therefore just a gratuitous rant, when the post displays nothing but "the lawful application of capital in investments or ventures that the person (or company) chooses."

If you're gonna get all self-righteous, wait until someone actually does what you're anxious to get all righteous about.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: subrosaDom

It depends who's doing the pressuring. Individuals and organizations have every right to pressure you through legal means (no violent threats or suggestions of harm or slander/libel). And you have a similar right to pressure them back. The government on the other hand shouldn't have any say in it whatsoever or its taking sides and using the inherent threat of force against you.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

If you're going to take the route of "you may not invest in anything that may contradict your religious beliefs", there will be VERY few investments, if any, left.

Oh, there will be some. And what's wrong with that? Nobody realistically tries to invest in everything.

For example, I know that conventional wisdom where I'm at (high middle class businessman) says the quickest and most reliable new income stream is real estate. But, other than my house or personal camps, it's just an area that makes me nervous--admittedly simply my own ignorance of that area--and doesn't really interest me . . . so I pass and invest in other areas.

Point is, I get to choose. And investments don't have to be in large enterprises either.

What's wrong with that is, I feel that pressuring people to drop their investments, for whatever concocted "hypocrisy" reason, undermines one of the freedoms that our nation was founded upon - the lawful application of capital in investments or ventures that the person (or company) chooses.

What's wrong with your reply is nowhere does the post say anything about pressuring anyone to do anything, let alone "for whatever concocted 'hypocrisy' reason," and is therefore just a gratuitous rant, when the post displays nothing but "the lawful application of capital in investments or ventures that the person (or company) chooses."

If you're gonna get all self-righteous, wait until someone actually does what you're anxious to get all righteous about.

Since in this case NO ONE is doing ANY pressuring, you equally are on a rant about something that hasn't happened here.

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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

If you're going to take the route of "you may not invest in anything that may contradict your religious beliefs", there will be VERY few investments, if any, left.

Oh, there will be some. And what's wrong with that? Nobody realistically tries to invest in everything.

For example, I know that conventional wisdom where I'm at (high middle class businessman) says the quickest and most reliable new income stream is real estate. But, other than my house or personal camps, it's just an area that makes me nervous--admittedly simply my own ignorance of that area--and doesn't really interest me . . . so I pass and invest in other areas.

Point is, I get to choose. And investments don't have to be in large enterprises either.

What's wrong with that is, I feel that pressuring people to drop their investments, for whatever concocted "hypocrisy" reason, undermines one of the freedoms that our nation was founded upon - the lawful application of capital in investments or ventures that the person (or company) chooses.