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TNDommeK -> RE: What is Tribute? (7/28/2014 4:52:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Actually TbD...I think he was referring to any submissive being desperate enough to pay for play.


Either way, there's nothing desperate about it. Some people prefer it.
Who is he to judge?




PandoraFoxxx -> RE: What is Tribute? (7/28/2014 5:02:26 PM)

It's not that you "disapprove" of feminism, it's more that you pigeon-hole it into your own definition and reject any other possibilities as "wrong." Equality is not about splitting checks down the middle. People can contribute the exact same amount to a relationship and not have it be monetary. There are more currencies in the world than the almighty dollar.




FieryOpal -> RE: What is Tribute? (7/28/2014 5:17:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

broke-ass slob who shovels his food into his mouth when he eats, has the social skills of a slug, and comes from a family of cretins?

lol. we all know what you meant by "overreaching his pay grade" as do you and it had nothing to do with the civil service or the military.

I think the quote tells us a lot about how you think of people who are broke.

Au contraire, "we all" don't know, "we all" don't have close associations with those who have served in the military, etc. Have you?

You must not have unattached young-adult children, I presume.

You have a bad habit of misinterpretation. There are plenty of broke-ass bitches, too. But this wasn't germane to the F/m orientation of this thread.
But guess what, despite my advice to my son that a particular crackhead girl or girl-in-recovery wasn't any good for him, she brought other things to the table. (Not much, but that's not the point)

The next time you are vetting a prospective unicorn, are you going to let her pay for her meal?

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Follow the money

Yeah, why don't you do that since you seem to be the one fixated on other people's money. [:)]




deathtothepixies -> RE: What is Tribute? (7/28/2014 5:39:34 PM)

I interpret just fine thanks, as for this....
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal




The next time you are vetting a prospective unicorn, are you going to let her pay for her meal?


I guess we just inhabit vastly different cultural and social situations.

I don't "vet unicorns"

I go out with women, although I haven't for many many years as I am in a stable long term relationship.

But when I was "seeking" none of the women I went out with judged me for my wealth and vice versa. Both people bring other things to the table but for some here money is more important than it should be




notmanbutslave -> RE: What is Tribute? (7/29/2014 5:52:19 AM)

A modern euphamism for gimme dosh tosh! I aint whipping your ass for nothing!




BecomingV -> RE: What is Tribute? (7/30/2014 11:29:18 AM)


Or, it's a male or female sub surrendering full control of his or her finances and allowing a Dom to control them.

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

My take:

A pro domme is a professional that, for more or less fixed rates, will perform specified acts with a sub.

Financial Domination is not well defined. It could simply involve tributes, which are voluntary gifts, monetary or otherwise. Or it could involve a sub surrendering full control of his or her finances and allowing a Domme to control them.





deathtothepixies -> RE: What is Tribute? (7/31/2014 5:09:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven



Financial Domination is not well defined. It could simply involve tributes, which are voluntary gifts, monetary or otherwise. Or it could involve a sub surrendering full control of his or her finances and allowing a Domme to control them.




I have no problem with the second part of your description and I believe it can play a part in a long term, trusting D/s relationship.

However fin dommes ( or fin doms, much less prevalent obviously) are bullshitting when they try and call tributes, gifts, cash etc fin domming. It's not, it's (again generally) a woman/ domme using a mans sexual proclivity for monetary gain.

Some of the people may be genuine dom/mes some may be genuine subs but that part of fin domming isn't fin domming, it's a nice easy way to make money




LookieNoNookie -> RE: What is Tribute? (7/31/2014 6:00:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TuliTheUnruli

It isn't pro-dom, and it isn't financial domination; so what is it?


Orangina.




TNDommeK -> RE: What is Tribute? (8/1/2014 1:07:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven



Financial Domination is not well defined. It could simply involve tributes, which are voluntary gifts, monetary or otherwise. Or it could involve a sub surrendering full control of his or her finances and allowing a Domme to control them.




I have no problem with the second part of your description and I believe it can play a part in a long term, trusting D/s relationship.

However fin dommes ( or fin doms, much less prevalent obviously) are bullshitting when they try and call tributes, gifts, cash etc fin domming. It's not, it's (again generally) a woman/ domme using a mans sexual proclivity for monetary gain.

Some of the people may be genuine dom/mes some may be genuine subs but that part of fin domming isn't fin domming, it's a nice easy way to make money


We call those "rinsers"...or fin ducks.




deathtothepixies -> RE: What is Tribute? (8/5/2014 4:10:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK


We call those "rinsers"...or fin ducks.



so a rinser or a fin duck would say something like..

What slave would like to send me and my best friend to get a pedicure?

or

I would live a foot massage right now. I know there's someone who can appreciate this urgent matter and send me to get toes done.

but a real fin Domme wouldn't try to get something from anyone just because they could? Because financial domination is about control and power and not about getting cash or services?




TNDommeK -> RE: What is Tribute? (8/5/2014 7:35:19 PM)

No, someone like myself who can say that...says that. It's cute that you're attempting to paint me as a rinser or fin duck, but you failed.
It's also cute going to my profile and attempting to "trip me up" using my journal entries, but you failed at that as well.

And just for shits and giggles, I'll explain why..
My slaves are subscribed to my journals, so anytime I post, it's like a multiple media message going to them. And which ever one would enjoy doing that will respond. I have actual relationships and feelings towards my slaves, unlike rinsers or fin ducks.


Wanna try again? Go ahead, I'll wait.



....Idiot




jj292 -> RE: What is Tribute? (8/9/2014 5:52:35 PM)

I've always viewed findommes as sugar babies with a BDSM twist. Most fimdommes I've ever come across don't know much of anything about BDSM.

The idea men paying a woman money or gifts for dates, attention, or even sexual activities is nothing new...probably the oldest profession in the history of mankind. But it has little to do with BDSM, especially if there is no power exchange. A woman putting sexy photos on the net and asking guys to pay them money for attention just because they look pretty is not BDSM. That's not a power exchange in any way. Now I think there can be a BDSM component to it when it gets into the control aspect. I know one findomme that literally gets off on the fact that her submissive has to ask permission to buy things or go out on the weekends. To her, it's not about the amount of money, it's about the control of it. But most findommes dont get into that kind of thing because it's "too much work" and/or doesn't pay off enough.

Pro-dommes are a bit different because they are being paid to cater to a particular fetish and usually offer a service to the person paying them. But there is almost always a control or power exchange going on with it.

And this all has absolutely nothing to do with feminism. So dont even go there.




PeonForHer -> RE: What is Tribute? (8/9/2014 6:14:33 PM)


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And this all has absolutely nothing to do with feminism. So dont even go there.


Hmm. I'd say that it does, and quite a lot, too. We're talking about women who earn their own money, run their own lives, control their own bodies, etc, etc. This is the basic stuff of what feminism's about, isn't it?




TNDommeK -> RE: What is Tribute? (8/9/2014 7:46:56 PM)

I agree with a bit of what jj292 said. And those are what we refer to as fin ducks. There are a few real fin dommes around here. I'd also say I have to disagree about your pro Domme definition. Most pros I know do not cater to anyone.




BecomingV -> RE: What is Tribute? (8/11/2014 11:28:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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jj292
And this all has absolutely nothing to do with feminism. So dont even go there.


Hmm. I'd say that it does, and quite a lot, too. We're talking about women who earn their own money, run their own lives, control their own bodies, etc, etc. This is the basic stuff of what feminism's about, isn't it?


Peon - you beat me to it! [sm=yourock.gif]

jj - Okay, but what are the thoughts that made you warn against applying feminist values to the views you posted here? What were you anticipating?




thishereboi -> RE: What is Tribute? (8/12/2014 11:10:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven



Financial Domination is not well defined. It could simply involve tributes, which are voluntary gifts, monetary or otherwise. Or it could involve a sub surrendering full control of his or her finances and allowing a Domme to control them.




I have no problem with the second part of your description and I believe it can play a part in a long term, trusting D/s relationship.

However fin dommes ( or fin doms, much less prevalent obviously) are bullshitting when they try and call tributes, gifts, cash etc fin domming. It's not, it's (again generally) a woman/ domme using a mans sexual proclivity for monetary gain.

Some of the people may be genuine dom/mes some may be genuine subs but that part of fin domming isn't fin domming, it's a nice easy way to make money



So I guess I should just say no to the lad who sent me "will give you 500 buck if you will tie me down pull my pants down and use me as an ash tray" because that would be using a mans sexual proclivity for monetary gain. No problem, I will just let him know that he can't get his kink on because you disapprove. I am sure he will thank you for it.




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