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subrosaDom -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/12/2014 5:53:30 PM)
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I am not saying I believe you'd personally condemn someone of a crime, left or right. Problem is that most don't anymore. I didn't say YOU were clueless. In fact, I didn't even make the clueless comment and it wasn't directed at you.
The TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Party has as much in common with Al Queda as you have in common with Hitler: nothing. Jesus didn't say to kill the infidels but to love your neighbor. And I don't think Jesus was God or anything other than a charismatic man. Now the O.T. did show God eradicating the homosexuals for sure, but it didn't show God telling his minions to execute each and every one last of them. So even if you take only the O.T. and compare it against the Quran, the Quran "wins." It is Islamic doctrine that earlier pronouncements are superseded by later ones, so all of Mohammed's peace-loving statements made in Mecca are superseded by his bellicose, evil ones in Medina. TEA Party activists (especially if you exclude leftists who have infiltrated rallies and put up racist posters specifically to attempt to discredit the TEA Party) are almost to a point decent, polite and well-mannered. OWS are so poorly mannered they'd be kicked out of Bill Ayers's classroom. TEA Party ralliers pick up garbage. OWS defecated on the ground. OWS rallies had numerous rapes. TEA Party? None, and if someone had tried it, they'd likely have been arrested or gunned down.
Are there right-wing extremists? Yes, there are. But they're not the TEA Party. That's simply organizational character assassination.
Are there honest leftists? Sure there are. Paul Wellstone was one. Christopher Hitchens (obviously I agreed with him on defense, but on little else) was another.
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ORIGINAL: Tkman117
In leftist ideology, ever killer is a killer. Period. The fact that they're left leaning or right leaning might simply add to motivation, it doesn't make it right. And I'm not entirely sure who Che is and what hagiographies you think I'm reading, but you're clearly clueless. I don't believe all right wingers are killers, extremists, or tea partiers, just as I dont believe the same as those on the left. If those on the left committed horrible crimes, I'd condemn them just as I would any right winger.
The problem with right wingers these days is that those who actively supporting the tea party/far right do come off as extremists. What they say isn't too different from what Al Queda says, except you simply have to replace The Quran with The Bible. If the repubs dont come back to the centre, it's unlikely they'll ever win another presidency, because most people aren't that extreme.
I as a Liberal dont hate conservatives, and in fact I find more centrist and logical conservative ideology quite convincing at times. But these days, the right wing is not logical, they're ideological and they are for a lack of a better word, extremists. Hell, you got militia members threatening to shoot government officials at a ranch, and similar people threatening to shoot children trying to come to your country for a better life. If that doesnt speak of extremism, I dont know what does.
Sure, there are left wing terrorists too, and while I understand why they do what they do, they're actions to achieve what they desire is completely wrong and they should be rightfully punished for it. The world can function without the need of extremism on both sides, and to blanket all liberals as people who are hypocrites about killers is completely wrong. I doubt you actually care about accuracy, because for you it's about vilifying the opposition. You are not an enemy of liberals, you are a person with a particular perspective. But you live with people in a world who share opposite perspectives, and if you can't learn to compromise and reach a moderate middle ground, then what's the point of politics? Seriously? Why not just start killing the people you disagree with? Go the full 9 yards and go full terrorist?
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